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But Mouse, you are not alone,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes of mice and men Go often askew,
And leave us nothing but grief and pain,
For promised joy!
I consider them undesirable groups. I disagree with the label "hate group" and try not to use it unless the organization in question uses it first.
And let us not forget that the conservation movement turned into the environmental nanny movement. It went from wanting to conserve the resources of nature to "management" of nature.
So you don't think that KKK and white supremacists hate blacks and Jews? And you don't think that Westboro Baptist Church hate gay people, despite their signs declaring such thing?
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: RowanBean
Now, if you want to define a "hate group" as a group that exists primarily to hate another group, then using that definition the KKK, SPLC, BLM. ACLU, and Black Panthers are all "hate groups." I know of no organized white supremacist group outside the KKK.
And unfortunately, there is a subset of the Democratic Party that is quickly falling into that same category.
Do you have a specific goal for twisting my words into some warped version of a 27 dimensional pretzel, or are you just bored?
Best news I have heard all day! With all due respect for those who have followed the history of the SPLC, every time I hear the name it seems to be in conjunction with them trying to force their agendas on someone else. They are the biggest hate group in Alabama. And the fact that they are allowed to be based in Alabama just makes it that much worse. I hope they are taken for every dime they ever thought about having and forced to close their doors forever. A nice cherry on top would be for the organizers to be run out of the state at the end of a flaming pitchfork, but alas, that won't happen.
I despise Westboro Baptist Church. Years ago, after those Amish girls were shot, I and some other truckers heard a rumor that WBC was going to protest the funerals. I was one of the organizers of a group that intended for that not to happen: a group of 50+ semis in and around the York PA area all who told their dispatcher to grab something and hold on. Does that sound like I have any love for WBC?
Incidentally, I consider the actions of the SPLC in publicly publishing a list of groups they then mis-characterize as a "hate group" as a violent action definitely worthy of civil action and potentially worthy of criminal action.
I think I love you. LOL.
Not sure what you mean about mis-charactering an hate group as a violent action? You mean the potential violence those hate groups might pose?
I can give you an example of a potential "violence" or "force". One example is a group suggesting that gay children go through gay conversion therapy. That's mild compared to other groups.
I am saying that the hate is not the issue. The actions are the issue.
I think I see your point. We shouldn't call them hate groups just because of their different opinions and they won't do nothing. Like FRC making up researches and studies about the gay people to make them look bad.
What about certain groups that use researches and studies by Dr. Mengele?
The point of the list on SPLC website is to keep watch on them in case they do something. No different from FBI keeping a watch on certain people and groups in case they do something.
Incidentally, who is this FRC?
Not sure who Dr. Mengele is, although I think I heard the name before somewhere?
We have, however, a Bill of Rights to protect us from overzealous social engineers and a democratic republic to ensure that fringe opinions do not translate into law. We also have public opinion that works both ways... a flawed research conclusion should be quickly exposed by the public.
We've seen that with Reagan and Moral Majority. We've seen that with Ted Cruz and his father pushing dominionism. We've seen that with Pence and the far right evangelicals.