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posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: MrBlaq

Because I once heard that gangstas make the world go round, and I thought--okay, let's see what else you can put to a sweet-ass beat.

I still have a Westside Connection radio on Pandora to this day.

Do people still use Pandora?




posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

Do people still listen to music that contains lyrics AKA "Songs"?




posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: MrBlaq

I always thought "Rap Culture" is one of this generation's biggest oxymorons.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: MrBlaq




Rap Culture/Music promotes female degradation, illegal drug use, illiteracy and the glorification of criminal activity.


A lot of rap does but not all of it.



So why do you listen to this music and support the Artist that sing this filth?

You ever look up the history of the artists and lyrics of the music you like?
A lot of music is secretly messed up. The beatles sung about killing women


Yes a large portion of rap is terrible stuff talking about terrible things. But that can be said of punk rock and death metal.
I listen to all three types rap, death metal and punk and I don't kill cops or hurt women.

Music doesn't make people into who they are. But blaming bad behavior on music is an easy way to judge people.

People see the part of the picture, if they saw the whole they would stay away from the evil. Many of the songs have double meanings. I actually feel sorry for those who chose to be blind to what is really going on around us.




he album is remembered primarily for the controversy surrounding its original cover image, the "butcher cover" featuring the band dressed in white smocks and covered with decapitated baby dolls and pieces of meat. The album's title is based on the song "Yesterday". Early album cover proofs show the word "Yesterday" in quotes.

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posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: MrBlaq




Rap Culture/Music promotes female degradation, illegal drug use, illiteracy and the glorification of criminal activity.




So why do you listen to this music and support the Artist that sing this filth?

Yes a large portion of rap is terrible stuff talking about terrible things. But that can be said of punk rock and death metal.


Punk rock was more political, anti-establishment, we-want-a-revolution stuff (at least in the beginning). Any death references were usually directed at politicians or the police.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: MrBlaq

Violent rap doesn't bug me. This new # that's basically one long advertisement for rich white women's clothing bugs the crap outta me though. I get enough commercials I don't need some wannabe gangsta yelling about Gucci or Prada at me for 3 minutes. On the plus side...I got to watch my 20 year old wigger coworker walk around in a knockoff Gucci purse he bought from a crackhead and think he's gangsta....so that was pretty funny.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 01:57 PM
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There are entire genres of non-rap music like "death metal", "brutal death metal", "horror punk", and "pagan black metal" that also talk about violence and death (not to mention the various skinhead bands that do, as well). But I guess they're fine?

Also, Addictions.com did a study of song lyrics by music genre and showed something pretty amazing (HERE and HERE). The 2nd link is an article about drug references in music & it references the 1st link (the actual study), mentioning the following:

According to a new study that was published on Addiction.com using the data from SongMeanings, it was revealed that country music has the most drug references of any musical genre, followed by jazz, pop, electronic, rock, other, folk and then hip-hop.


So if anything, I'd have to ask how you came to your conclusion? You seem to be treating all subgenres of hip hop/rap as if they're the same, when they're not. There are a lot of different genres of hip hop/rap music, yet you and a lot of the other posters seem to think that the corporate-backed "mainstream rap" products represent all forms of hip hop/rap music.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: MrBlaq
Rap Culture/Music promotes female degradation, illegal drug use, illiteracy and
the glorification of criminal activity.

So why do you listen to this music and support the Artist that sing this filth?

A lack of proper education has left many in abject ignorance that this genre
was foisted upon our inner cities by those who hate us.

Unfortunately the cycle of death of Rap Artist will continue until these children
wake up to the fact they were born for a higher calling.

The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall
be shortened. Proverbs 10:27


I heard a song played by Jimmy Hendrix, "Hey Joe". It talks about going to kill the guy's wife because he found her cheating, i don't see any difference and that song was like 60+ years ago

Would you say that every guy that has killed his girl/wife was influenced by songs like that or that the songs lyrics were influenced by how life happens to those people?

I think it started the other way around,the actual life lead them to write about stuff like that

Maybe other people get influenced or maybe they all just grow on the same way and place and don't know any different so they are not influenced by those songs but just see the normal stuff they live described on the songs

I don't know anything i'm just saying



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
Sitting here listening to Robert Johnson and Johnny Cash wondering why it’s only rappers who get called out for singing about death..


You know the Johny Cash song about a pale horse? He was a smart guy that dude..

BTW rap culture started out very different to the "gangster" rap culture that was promoted by the media. It was done deliberatley to break up black communities.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: scraedtosleep

I'm more focused on the stuff the "Radio Music / MTV Model" shoves down everyones throats. They're the "gatekeepers", the "Chief of Staff", that selects and pounds stuff into our heads (especially the youth whom live by "Radio Music" / "MTV Music" / "BET Music" [all one in the same especially thanks to the 1996 Telecommunications Act]).

Note I'm a Pantera / Biohazard / Rage Against the Machine etc type mofo, as hardcore badass STRONG music + lyrics as there ever was between them three, and then I hear stuff like these (played every day in every city multiple times on the Radio):


And its not even STRONG music, its just effing propaganda.

And before anyone even tries it... THE BEST MUSIC OUT THERE IS NOT ALL WHATS ON THE RADIO.


Most of the best music is never played on the radio, your one of the few members on this site that has a clue, keep it up.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: underwerks
Sitting here listening to Robert Johnson and Johnny Cash wondering why it’s only rappers who get called out for singing about death..


Johnny Cash talked about gunning down the ops with an extended clip? He walked around with a glock hanging out of his waist band throwing up redneck gang signs? He talked about banging hoes and making a bag in the trap house?

Sorry, apples and oranges...

Pretty close. Folsom Prison Blues, Cocaine Blues, Delia's Gone, Don't Take Your Guns to Town, Ballad of Annie Palmer, etc.

Does it count if he’s talking about killing people with a regular gun? And being high on coc aine while he’s doing it?


Subtlety singing about controversial topics is not the same thing as the blunt force trauma lyrics of many hip hop artists these days.

Look, I am huge hip hop fan... from the beginning as I was born in early 70s. However, I can no longer defend much of the cooning and buffooning that is passing for hip hop these days. I see the damage it is doing to the community and young minds.

Johnny cash singing “I took a shot of coc aine and I shot my woman down” isn’t really that subtle.

Is the damage to the community because of music or is the music a product of a damaged community?

I don’t like the word “cooning” because of its racist connotations but it would seem to me that dancing around with a smile on your face singing happy songs while the community around you is burning would be a bigger example of that then talking about real things that surround you every day.


I think at one point, hip hop did reflect some of what was seen. However, I think we are at a point where hip hop is influencing attitudes and behaviors.

Yes, there are many genres of hip hop, but the reality all that is getting promoted is the trap, gangsta, mumble rappers at this point.

I mean, what other genre of music has their artist dying in drive bys it seems like every other week? The artists going to jail for actual murders and dope dealing? We had two artists shot and killed this week (xxxtencacion and Jimmy Wopo).



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: MrBlaq
Rap Culture/Music promotes female degradation, illegal drug use, illiteracy and
the glorification of criminal activity.

So why do you listen to this music and support the Artist that sing this filth?

A lack of proper education has left many in abject ignorance that this genre
was foisted upon our inner cities by those who hate us.

Unfortunately the cycle of death of Rap Artist will continue until these children
wake up to the fact they were born for a higher calling.

The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall
be shortened. Proverbs 10:27



Amen! My son tells me every other day about some rapper getting killed. Some victims are just kids, it is sad. I can’t stand it myself.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated



Yes, there are many genres of hip hop, but the reality all that is getting promoted is the trap, gangsta, mumble rappers at this point.

If people only listen to the corporate-backed artists that are promoted on corporate owned stations & tv channels, then who's fault is that?

It would be like me only watching horror movies, then complaining that movies are too violent, even though I know there are other movie genres out there lol.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

If you were to base it on a per-capita basis and by popularity of the music, I wonder what would turn up.

Speaking generically, hip-hop, rock, pop, country (well, whatever you call this 'new' country music garbage) would be at the top of the most listened to. All forms would elude to drug use, murder, suicide and other forms of criminality. I think we could agree on this.

Extrapolating from there, one form of music from that list is specifically targeted at the AA community at large with little outlet to stray away from it.

Now I'm surely not an expert or even very knowledgeable on hip hop but I don't think there are anywhere near as many sub-genres that exist as do the other common forms. (Please, feel free to correct if I'm wrong here.)

I'm of the opinion that black folks, either by design or choice, simply don't have enough, let alone glorify enough proper role models. More specifically in music but it certainly applies in many other areas. Present company excluded obviously.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:35 PM
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Everyone is allowed to tell their stories.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:39 PM
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posting in a troll thread



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 09:49 PM
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All one has to do is go to World Star Hip Hop and see the buffoonery that passes as music these days. Every thug with a HD camera and a soundcloud account calls themselves rappers.

Lyrics are nothing but b*tches, clothes, killing, and drug money....

At least back in the day when a rapper talked about that stuff they could do it in a creative fashion, tell a story, etc.... think Biggie "I got a story to tell"



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

I mean, in all fairness:
Bithch
Big truck
Too small, too small, don't compromise
So have fast, too fast don't realize
Have hand on wheel, set the sights, drive with me
Too fast, too fast, don't realize
So have fast, too fast don't recognize
Have hand on wheel, set the sights, drive with me
Moving - motion
Said move, said move it
Somebody better come and drive me
Big truck
Ain't no grave gonna hold my body down
Ain't no grave gonna hold, hold my body, hold my body
Big truck, come on


-Coalchamber. Big Truck.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 11:31 PM
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Speaking generically, hip-hop, rock, pop, country (well, whatever you call this 'new' country music garbage) would be at the top of the most listened to. All forms would elude to drug use, murder, suicide and other forms of criminality. I think we could agree on this.

So you agree that it's a problem of what people choose to listen to and not a problem of what's available?



Extrapolating from there, one form of music from that list is specifically targeted at the AA community at large with little outlet to stray away from it.

Wrong, bro. First, "white" Americans are by far the largest group of rap music consumers in America. And second, I'm guessing you've already forgotten about jazz music, blues music, soul music, rhythm & blues, and gospel music? We even have branches of Christian & Muslim rappers who rap about religious things.

It legitimately bewilders me how much some of you fall for the media's representations of us and our tastes.



Now I'm surely not an expert or even very knowledgeable on hip hop but I don't think there are anywhere near as many sub-genres that exist as do the other common forms. (Please, feel free to correct if I'm wrong here.)

If you admit that you don't know, then why make assumptions anyway? A quick google search showed the following (from here):


Alternative hip hop
Avant-garde hip hop
Breakbeat[Note 1]
Britcore
Boom bap
Bubblegum trap
Chap hop[Note 2]
Chopped and screwed
Chopper
Christian hip hop
Comedy hip hop
Contemporary R&B
Conscious hip hop
Country-rap
Crunk
Crunkcore[Note 3]
Crunk-Hop
Cloud rap
Drill
Electro hop[Note 1]
Emo hip hop
Experimental hip hop
Freestyle rap
G-funk
Gangsta rap
Ghetto house[Note 1]
Ghettotech[Note 1]
Glitch hop[Note 1]
Hardcore hip hop
Hip hop soul[Note 4]
Hip house[Note 1]
Horrorcore
Hyphy
Industrial hip hop
Instrumental hip hop
Jazz rap
Jersey club
Latin trap
Low Bap
Lyrical hip hop
Mafioso rap
Mobb
Nerdcore hip hop
Neurohop
New jack swing
Political hip hop
Pop-rap[Note 1]
Porno rap
Ragga hip hop[Note 5]
Rap opera
Rap rave
Rap rock
Rapcore[Note 3]
Rap metal
Salamax Hip Hop
Snap music
Modern Club Hip Hop
Mumble rap
Stronda music
Swing Hip Hop
Trap
Trip hop[Note 1][Note 3]
Turntablism
Underground hip hop
Urban Pasifika[Note 5]

And personal experience in the underground hip hop industry leads me to think that a lot of indie hip hop artists and "spoken word poets" don't really fit these categories, either.



I'm of the opinion that black folks, either by design or choice, simply don't have enough, let alone glorify enough proper role models. More specifically in music but it certainly applies in many other areas. Present company excluded obviously.

I completely disagree. If anything, I think that non-"black folks" need to actually talk to us before coming to these biased conclusions. There are black dentists, doctors, engineers, politicians, lawyers, teachers, professors, pastors/preachers/imams, etc. There are black activists, businessmen/businesswomen, inventors, scientists, police, firefighters, and members of the armed services. There have even been African American astronauts, including 6 female astronauts (3 of which went into space, all HERE). The church and the mosque are big in our communities and I'd never trade my parents or elders for anyone in the world.

In other words, we have more than enough good role models. But people who aren't in our communities, organizations, or families don't know this or care about it. You just seemingly look at tv and focus on black entertainers and black criminals, then act like their words & actions define all of us. It's literally the equivalent of me only looking at "white" hockey players, comedians, singers, and organized crime figures, and then proclaiming that "white American" communities don't have proper role models lol.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 11:47 PM
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a reply to: MrBlaq

Violence in music lyrics are nothing new. Take this song for instance:

The poor guy just wants a nice relaxing night out dancing. But he's constantly accosted and sexually harassed by this big fat woman. Even after she breaks his hip, she still insists on "bumping" him.




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