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About Q: Red Flags? End game? Or???

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posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:24 AM
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So Q has been doing his/her/their thing for several months now, and has most definitely become "a thing". And, of course, Q has always had both supporters and detractors. But I'm pretty darn surprised -- and a little worried -- by the recent efforts of some to try to denounce and discredit Q the last few weeks. Alex Jones... Jerome Corsi... and many others. And the reasons for denouncing him are more confusing and convoluted than Q! At least to me... My favorite is that Q is a recruitment operation by one of the intelligence agencies.

We can all speculate, but I don't pretend to know who/what Q is. What I do know is that Q's not stupid!!!

Q could be a LARPer; but if so, then a well informed and politically insightful LARPer, who is providing valuable hints or "crumbs" that folks are researching and following and educating and informing themselves and others in very relevant ways about the criminal critters running our nation -- and the world. So to that extent, no matter who/what Q is, Q is providing a valuable service to the people of the nation and the world.

And for all I know -- for all any of us know -- Q could actually be part of those in-the-know. Perhaps part of one of the intelligence branches... perhaps part of Team Trump... perhaps even part of the White House media.

Whatever/whoever Q is, I don't see any harm being done (yet), and I do see good being done, so why a seemingly coordinated effort to discredit and debunk and denounce Q by so many??? And I'm not talking about on ATS; I'm talking about across the spectrum. It doesn't sit right with me.

Does Q even matter in the grand scheme of things??? With or without Q, the investigations and sealed indictments and scathing IG reports and existing/future criminal charges are happening and will continue happening. Due process and justice isn't dependent on Q drops.

But I do have a few concerns about Q. My first red flag was Q saying martial law would be imposed... why? Imposing martial law -- and, by definition, denying our natural and Constitutional rights -- is never to be taken lightly or frivolously. Why would it be necessary to so violate our rights in order to get the bad guys???

I'm also a little leery of Q's assertion that "future proves past"... which may sound good in theory, but in practice too easily and too often becomes "history is written by the victors".

Likewise I'm concerned about the "red pilling" and memes, which might sound good in theory but in practice is all really just psyops. Q has already stated that some of the "crumbs" will be deliberate disinformation... so anything Q gets "wrong" could be dismissed as part of that disinfo. And I'm pretty sure not all Q drops are meant for the Qsters; I strongly suspect that many are intended for others -- both Q's friends and Q's foes so-to-speak.

I guess in many ways, Q is all just a big psyop. But who is the target?

Sometimes my concerns are more about what Q doesn't talk about... which reminds me that while Q's "crumbs" are pointing folks in the "right" direction for further research and information, that also means that Q's "crumbs" are directing and in effect controlling what and who to research. And that's also a concern. What/who is Q not telling us to research???

So these are my red flags... and I really have no idea of what Q's endgame... and I'm not even sure if/how Q matters in the grand scheme of things. But if Q does have nefarious purposes that we should be concerned about, now is the time to figure it out. And if Q is legit and a patriot and working for all that's good and noble, that's important to know as well -- can't have too many allies when fighting the good fight!!!

I wanted to post this thread (or a version of it) a couple/few weeks ago... but I keep trying to update/improve the thread... and I'm never quite satisfied... and then I get busy and have to put it off altogether... and when I come back to it I try to update myself and the thread... and, well, you get the drift... I haven't posted it! Until now. Because it really feels like things are heating up -- and therefore the fear and desperation of some. And I expect things are going to get much worse before they get better, and we the people need to be paying attention.

And since I can't seem to find the "right" focus, it will be something of a "Q" free-for-all with a couple notable exceptions:
~~This is NOT to discuss Q's drops except in the greater context of what it means for all of us. There is already an ongoing
thread to discuss and research Q's drops here.
~~This is NOT to discuss (i.e., bash and beat up) Q's supporters or detractors.

So with current and ongoing events in mind:
What are your thoughts on the Q phenomena?
What are your red flags?
What do you think Q's endgame is?
What would be a deal breaker for you? Or deal maker?
Should we even care? Why or why not?




posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

IMO, it is the White Hats, using the same tools as Black Hats have been for many decades, for their psy-ops. Perhaps we could call it an info-op?



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: Enderdog
a reply to: Boadicea

IMO, it is the White Hats, using the same tools as Black Hats have been for many decades, for their psy-ops.


That would be my best guess as well... but I'm not sure I like it. If it's wrong for one, it's wrong for all. And it is wrong because it grossly violates our natural inalienable and Constitutional rights to free will by compromising our freedom to think and reason. And the inherent real and potential abuses are obvious.


Perhaps we could call it an info-op?


That's fair enough to the extent it's true. But, again, the information is directed and controlled; therefore the information is also flawed. And Q's efforts to inform the public is obviously only part of his/her purposes.

So, yes, I would agree that it's true that it's partly an info-op, but it's not the whole truth. And it's what we don't know that we need to be concerned about.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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Why isn't this in the designated Q receptacle provided by management?



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:53 AM
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Q certainly elevated an awful lot of research skills into skillsets for some of these amazing minds.
Some of them here on ats.
It is so unique I still wonder.
But I find myself referencing to qanon vids and threads for updates and if they are correlating with my own updates and gleaning.
Amazing times we live in this info war.
There has been over the last few years a heavy emphasis on disinfo. Disinfo on an industrial level.
It takes alot of background in order to navigate through it and discern what is truth.
Qanon seems to really play on this. I can only hope that is what this is all about. That in the bigger picture we are seeing the disinfo agents exposed along with the truth.
I think it was Bill Casey who said something like, "we will have succeeded our objective when everything the American public , believes is a lie"

I have my biggest regrets in how much I find this entertaining.
Because these are very sad and frightening events we are witnessing.
It is like if one side loses, we all lose the truth forever.

a reply to: Boadicea



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: Boadicea


Q could be a LARPer; but if so, then a well informed and politically insightful LARPer, who is providing valuable hints or "crumbs" that folks are researching and following and educating and informing themselves and others in very relevant ways about the criminal critters running our nation -- and the world. So to that extent, no matter who/what Q is, Q is providing a valuable service to the people of the nation and the world.


True. That's a good point you just made. I'm not a 100% believer either, maybe it's my skeptical side screaming that it's too good to be true. But he IS pointing us (people who are following his drops) in the right direction and we've made some MASSIVE discoveries with this. LARPer or not, keep dropping.




Whatever/whoever Q is, I don't see any harm being done (yet), and I do see good being done, so why a seemingly coordinated effort to discredit and debunk and denounce Q by so many??? And I'm not talking about on ATS; I'm talking about across the spectrum. It doesn't sit right with me.


This is what makes me think it's real. I know there are always two sides and the media (independent or not) will always benefit from these stories. But they (the opposite side) is putting a big effort in trying to discredit Q. THIS, for me, is indication that Q is dropping some real information that is hurting people.


But I do have a few concerns about Q. My first red flag was Q saying martial law would be imposed... why? Imposing martial law -- and, by definition, denying our natural and Constitutional rights -- is never to be taken lightly or frivolously. Why would it be necessary to so violate our rights in order to get the bad guys???


When the REAL BOMB drops, do you think they'll just give up the power? They most likely will try to start civil war to push an impeachment or something else. They (TPBT) were in the power long enough to just give up now. I have absolute trust that it won't be easy to take'em out.


Sometimes my concerns are more about what Q doesn't talk about... which reminds me that while Q's "crumbs" are pointing folks in the "right" direction for further research and information, that also means that Q's "crumbs" are directing and in effect controlling what and who to research. And that's also a concern. What/who is Q not telling us to research???


Great point too! That's why you can't base your whole life on Q drops, you need to run independent researches.



Should we even care? Why or why not?


And yes.

Because if we do not care, who will?

As he says, we, the people, have the power. And we really do, united.

Apart we are just sheeps waiting for a pastor to tell us what to do.


(post by bulwarkz removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 08:59 AM
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See there. We had the same thought.
When I tried to express it I got stuck trying to find a word that did not give credit to that super-duper disinfo agent AJ.
INFO-OPa reply to: Enderdog



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: bulwarkz
Q certainly elevated an awful lot of research skills into skillsets for some of these amazing minds.
Some of them here on ats... There has been over the last few years a heavy emphasis on disinfo. Disinfo on an industrial level.
It takes alot of background in order to navigate through it and discern what is truth.
Qanon seems to really play on this.


This is where Q -- and the Qsters -- really shine! The truth is out there, but the crap and deliberate disinfo makes it hard to find and get to. Especially when "official" info is really disinfo.


I can only hope that is what this is all about. That in the bigger picture we are seeing the disinfo agents exposed along with the truth.


That is my greatest hope as well. So far so good... but it ain't over till it's over, eh?


I think it was Bill Casey who said something like, "we will have succeeded our objective when everything the American public , believes is a lie"


They haven't succeeded yet.... and it seems their chances are getting slimmer by the minute...



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: vinifalou


I'm not a 100% believer either, maybe it's my skeptical side screaming that it's too good to be true.


Once bitten, twice shy, right? I'm way past "believing," I need to KNOW. Talk is cheap.


But he IS pointing us (people who are following his drops) in the right direction and we've made some MASSIVE discoveries with this. LARPer or not, keep dropping.


Yes, I agree. And as I just commented to another poster, this is where Q and the Qsters really shine.


This is what makes me think it's real.


Me too. Q isn't sending folks on wild goose chases... the "crumbs" and ensuing research is quite valid and relevant... and I cannot see any benefit for the bad guys to be behind this. Knowledge is power and Q is empowering the people in the best way for OUR benefit. But sure not for the criminal critters' benefit.


But they (the opposite side) is putting a big effort in trying to discredit Q. THIS, for me, is indication that Q is dropping some real information that is hurting people.


Right??? If Q is just a LARPer... irrelevant... disinfo... whatever... then why so much effort to discredit Q??? That's more suspicious than anything Q's done -- unless I'm missing something, but if so, they are too cause they sure haven't mentioned anything.


When the REAL BOMB drops, do you think they'll just give up the power? They most likely will try to start civil war to push an impeachment or something else.


I don't disagree in theory... but I just think their "defense" will be much different in practice. For one thing, they don't have the popular support to really start a civil war; and even if they started one anyway, they'd lose; and they know it. Second, I believe they have been counting on the "laws" to protect them. Laws that allow government officials to spy and lie and spread propaganda and gag would be whistleblowers, etc. And they may be right... we'll see.


we, the people, have the power. And we really do, united.

Apart we are just sheeps waiting for a pastor to tell us what to do.


Excellent point



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 09:52 AM
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I have been befuddled with this Q situation. Could it be a "psy op" being done by a non-governmental organization I wonder? It makes me scratch my head, this premise that psy ops don't only need to be run by the government/authorities. It could be a rebel group of some sort trying to recruit members.

Or it could be a legit insider who is airing dirty laundry of the elitists. I'm just not sure what to think.

Also..


originally posted by: bulwarkz

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Why isn't this in the designated Q receptacle provided by management?
You yourself deserve your own category on ats where finally all your posts could be incontext and unobtrusive to everyone else regardless of the topic you choose to troll.


^ most incredible post this morning. Thank you



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: bulwarkz

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Why isn't this in the designated Q receptacle provided by management?
You yourself deserve your own category on ats where finally all your posts could be incontext and unobtrusive to everyone else regardless of the topic you choose to troll.


This isn't the mud pit, bucko.

On topic: the psyop, hypnotic memes that come out of the Q world are pretty obvious, there are certain members here who like to repost them as often as possible. It's blatant and disturbing.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: FamCore


I have been befuddled with this Q situation.


That's a good way to put it -- me too.


Could it be a "psy op" being done by a non-governmental organization I wonder? It makes me scratch my head, this premise that psy ops don't only need to be run by the government/authorities. It could be a rebel group of some sort trying to recruit members.

Or it could be a legit insider who is airing dirty laundry of the elitists. I'm just not sure what to think.


I'm not either. I do suspect that if Q is not a current member of Team Obama -- ETA: NOT Team Obama, but Team Trump. My bad and my apologies -- that he was once an insider of some kind [ETA: probably under Team Obama). And since I can't figure that out, I keep coming back to the old adage that "we shall know them by the fruits of their labor," and in terms of Q's labor, the fruit is pretty darn good. For we the people. But I also think some of the most obscure drops aren't meant for us at all.

ETA: Sheesh! My apologies all. That was one big booboo!!!
edit on 21-6-2018 by Boadicea because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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What are your thoughts on the Q phenomena? What are your red flags? What do you think Q's endgame is? What would be a deal breaker for you? Or deal maker? Should we even care? Why or why not?
Good post OP
Like you I am still sitting on the fence in a few ways . I am involved but not overly and try to insert less then strong "Q" type stuff . I may be missing "a" or "the bigger" picture which in a way keeps me out of that type of inner circle of eating it hook line and sinker .

My biggest red flag is that after a lot of people putting a lot of mental thought over a extended period of time we are still left divided on how exactly it works . That may also be one of its strengths and appeals .First it allows us to participate and share things that q us to do so . Not as a response to Q but as maybe sharing a crumb we come across that can fit into the bigger picture .

I think the "endgame" is the game it's self .Making a loaf of bred using all these crumbs we find . ... deal breaker LOL Pokemon
deal maker LOL again Pokemon
I care about Q as much as I care about Pokemon ...they are both things that provide interesting questions . Its just easier to participate in Q . I am not even sure if people are still doing or playing Pokemon anymore so maybe Q is a replacement or a kind of updated version or a extension of it.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1


My biggest red flag is that after a lot of people putting a lot of mental thought over a extended period of time we are still left divided on how exactly it works . That may also be one of its strengths and appeals.


I would add that not everyone agrees on how to interpret the crumbs as well, but I suppose that's the nature of the beast as well. But it doesn't hurt for folks to share and discuss different ideas and possibilities and perspectives. So that would be one of the strengths.


I think the "endgame" is the game it's self .Making a loaf of bred using all these crumbs we find


You may be right -- at least as far as the Q drops directed to the people. And that's actually worthy enough for me!



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:42 AM
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I think Q is BS, just because of what it is and the methods used. It’s like a primer for people new to the conspiracy community and that line of thinking.

Mostly rehashed conspiracy theories that have been debated and talked about for years except now they’re being repackaged as the property of an all knowing behind-the-scenes right wing internet oracle.

It’s bait for all the newbies who got into this kind of thing during and after the past election. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was being used by the government to watch the people who frequent the Q drops.

That Q is real, is laughable in my opinion. It’s definitely a staged psy-op, but who is behind it we could spend all day guessing.

I know one thing for certain. Donald Trump is not a religious figure who is here to save America in some battle between good and evil. Anyone who believes a shady real estate developer and reality tv star is here to save everybody should probably hold on to their wallet.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

One thing you gotta keep in mind with all of this, is that Q has dropped crumbs on everything ever discussed on this site. Everything from the creation of the Federal Reserve to Satanists running the world.

I don’t believe Q is a LARP, too many “proofs” for it to be a coincidence. Too much legitimate information to be a LARP. The swamp is global, Trump isn’t just draining the swamp, he and team Q are literally taking down the whole New World Order.

So what happens to people like AJ and Jerome Corsi if there is no government corruption? Or Satan worshippers diddling and killing little kids? What happens to the whole platform that they have built?
What will they do with their show? What will they report on? AJ has long had his own insider named “zack” who has yet to have a single thing he says as an “insider” be proven true. It’s like AJ is saying, “don’t listen to Q, listen to us! We have the real inside info.”

Be careful who you follow
edit on 21-6-2018 by Cancerwarrior because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:58 AM
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I know one thing for sure.

The Q postings has outed many "opposition" operators.

Classic.

Flushing the Pheasants is part of the Q thing.

Q is not a single focused operation.

The only way to expose things (and people) is to get them out of the comfort zones.

Works every time.

If you want ants to go into The_Sun, put honey on the anthill.

😎⚖



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 11:00 AM
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BEST. LARP. EVAR.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: Cancerwarrior

The last year and a half has outed lots of "old style" controlled opposition that was previously "trusted".

😎💥



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