a reply to: anonentity
Jhana states in Buddhism explain this rather clearly... levels of being is a bit more accurate.
Used to be and in some cases there still is an argument about "Greater and Lesser" vehicle or "body" to life... well all of that "body" has a
"speech"... the mind itself? Best to call that Buddha/Tathagata/Suchness/God/Goddess/Science whatever one finds it easier to deal with as such.
Knowledge is one hand that cuts, while the other receives and the middle way puts back together.
Buddhism Is an introduction to reality as all philosophies go... one step on the path? Could be a trillion miles. So what died in the process as mind
created the volition before one arrived? Was the volition selfish or to help another? Self compassion sometimes has to be done when the whole
disregards one as a self... like a dog will lick it's wounds the same as any other that carries the same behavior and still holding that pain? Lash
out at anything that tries to help.
So letting do of that pain; one can see that sometimes no action is right action... as in no steps at all. So meditation something the Christian Bible
states to do; both day and night... no real instructions though. The goal is to sit and not tell others what to do, not tell "self" what to do...
sitting is just sitting, be it the sun, the moon, or as the path so others can walk... who knows? Dukka knows, the reaping of volition or action of
mind carrying speech and body as the "three worlds" Nirmanakaya, Samboghakaya, Dammakaya... Bliss body can occur from the three worlds of body, speech
and mind as a whole... some call this reverence of the masses of life or exhaltation of a "god" however in the human realm some call that pride; of
course the humble see it as ego and those sucking the sympathetic joy from one family member such as a Buddha or Christ or whomever as a sacrifice so
that other suffering is eased? No real difference.
Jhanas... seven wheels, like planets whirling we call the solar system... of course liked to "flowers" each one has a "taste" and each one has a
heaven and a hell based on those tastes or attachments. Remember craving and desire... like the eaters or destroyers of worlds... here on this small
little blue/green bubble we have lost countless species over an immeasurable amount of time at least according to historians.
However not bearing THAT sort of load? Time is a concept a measure of work or reaping... same as kamma or the blade swung into action to cut or
harvest those flowers of being.
8th Jhana said not to exist as it will collapse the world back into a "self" if one is carrying such a thing... this is when the world inverts into
the void as the old monkey reflecting into a pond of grasping. Round and round it becomes the yin/yang spiral much like a galaxy or just regular ol
The void? Elements is what some say but other may just say it is a "dark matter" or simply space.
So where is the center of the universe? At any point at any time at any place known or unknown.