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EU and their response to Trumps tariffs. Motorcycles, Bourbon, and Levi's among others.

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posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:29 AM
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Luckily there are on-line services delivering low profile shipments out of China and Russia to tha porch free off postage. They can tariff each other to oblivion as far as i'm concerned, as long as my packages keep flowing in. Ill join the upset as soon as they bomb my flow.




posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 03:51 PM
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Pfff, Trump has been easy on the EU. Wait until we're done with China, then the EU will really feel the pain.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 04:29 PM
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While I don't think imposing tariffs is the solution, it is far time the USA started gaining some money back from all this "free-trade".

Maybe this will incentivise people to make things here instead of paying higher prices for junk from China.

Who knows what this may bring.






posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: moebius
a reply to: rickymouse

Which is counterbalanced by a huge surplus in trade in services and investment with the EU. In fact if you consider the total money flow between USA and EU. The USA are having a surplus of something like 20 bn.

But that is something your beloved Trump won't mention of course. And so you'll continue cheerleading him like the little ignorant trumpets that you are.


Let's see where you are getting that info from. I looked at trade graphs and most always found money flows to Europe or European businesses. Not the other way around. Read this article that is actually slamming Trump for over stating the deficit by fifty billion. . www.nytimes.com...

You aren't reading the info right. Remember, some countries in the EU have an almost even trade and the ones that are complaining have the most unbalanced trade, meaning they sell us way more than they buy from us.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 06:51 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: rickymouse


Yes indeed, the reason you buy German products is they are far higher quality than you make in the U.S, otherwise you would buy locally made products.



My daughters Audi sucked, it had all sorts of extra gadgets which didn't work. I wasn't that impressed, her turbocharged Labarron convertible was a much better car.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: havok

so my question is why is it ok for Canada to set 300% tarrifs on us for dairy or wheat, but now its horrendous that we want 25% on their steel an aluminum.

just effin ridiculous. what i am insulted by all this bs global media bias, is that im expected to be stupid enough to believe this crap.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 07:05 PM
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Anyone that thinks a tradewar coupled with trickle down will benefit the American taxpayer is is fool!

How much inflation are you willing to take?



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: rickymouse


Yes indeed, the reason you buy German products is they are far higher quality than you make in the U.S, otherwise you would buy locally made products.



My daughters Audi sucked, it had all sorts of extra gadgets which didn't work. I wasn't that impressed, her turbocharged Labarron convertible was a much better car.






Thing is with European cars is they are built for European roads, Audi's being German are built for the autobarns not so much for country driving.

Was your daughters car an A3 because they do suck...
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posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: BlueJacket

"coulda sold em for 150 bucks wholsale. the sold for 275 buck retail"

Melons retail for £275 in Japan!!!???

Christ, i thought £3 from ASDA was a little steep.

But that bloody Mount Everest. LoL



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

ever been to Tokyo?



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 11:21 PM
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What is all this Trump won crap? He may have won( his own financial betterment) but not the people who now will pay more for their needs

EU to launch counter-tariffs against US on Friday

www.bbc.com...



The European Union will launch a raft of retaliatory tariffs against US exports on Friday, a top official has said. The move comes after US President Donald Trump imposed steep duties on steel and aluminium earlier this month. American exports such as blue jeans, motorbikes and bourbon whiskey will be targeted, trade commissioner Cecilia Malmstrom confirmed. However, she said the bloc "did not want to be in this position". "The unilateral and unjustified decision of the US to impose steel and aluminium tariffs on the EU means that we are left with no other choice," she said. Trump threatens more tariffs on China US imposes metal tariffs on key allies Brussels drew up the list of products in March when Mr Trump initially proposed the 25% tariffs on steel imports and 10% on aluminium, which also target Canada, Mexico and other close US allies. Cranberries, orange juice, sweetcorn and peanut butter are among the other goods targeted. It comes amid an intensifying row over trade between the US and its partners.


Likely after the damage Trump does with this he'll backtrack with his tail between his legs like he did on the Nazi-style immigration separation of kids from their parents.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 11:26 PM
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What does the EU say?


Ms Malmstrom called the EU response proportionate and in line with World Trade Organization rules. She said that counter-measures - which affect €2.8bn worth of US goods - would be removed if Washington removed its metal tariffs. EU steel and aluminium exports now facing US tariffs are worth a total of €6.4bn (£5.6bn).

What could the impact be?


Many of the products the EU has in its sights are specifically chosen to have maximum political effect. Bourbon whiskey is produced in Kentucky, the state of Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell. Orange juice is a key export for Florida, a swing state in the US elections.

Meanwhile, economists have warned the US metal tariffs could lead to higher metal costs, disrupt supply chains and even get passed on to US households.

Last week, the International Monetary Fund warned that the Trump administration's protectionist policies are likely to hurt the US economy and undermine the world's trade system.

IMF director Christine Lagarde said a trade war would lead to "losers on both sides" and have a "serious" impact. US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has dismissed the concerns about higher costs, arguing that the effects would be minimal.

At a hearing in Washington on Wednesday, he blamed a spike in the price of steel on speculative activity and said his department would conduct an investigation into "illegitimate profiteering". And in March, Mr Trump signalled he could impose yet more retaliation if the EU raised trade barriers on US companies.

www.bbc.com...

Things are starting to heat up considerably.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 11:31 PM
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This was done with little foresight and planning. Just as the past actions of Trump. His immigration fiasco and Muslim ban.

One wonders is Trump deliberately being a destructive force, or does he actually believe in these unwise actions

www.bbc.com...



What is the reaction in the US?

US politicians criticised the measures at a hearing in Washington on Wednesday, saying they were hurting American businesses and alienating allies.

US Senator Pat Toomey, a Republican from Pennsylvania, said the use of national security to justify the metals tariffs was "wholly inappropriate".

He is co-sponsor of a bill that would limit the administration's authority on trade.

Lawmakers also said the administration's process for granting companies exemptions from the tariffs is in disarray.

Companies have submitted more than 20,000 requests for exemptions from the measures, Mr Ross said.

He said the department has granted 42 exemptions from the steel tariffs and denied 56.

Senator Claire McCaskill, a Democrat from Missouri, said the US should have published a list of exempted products when the tariffs were announced.

She said the administration was handling the issue in a "chaotic and frankly incompetent manner".


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posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 11:42 PM
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Funny, and very true background tidbit on my late paternal grandfather (dad's late dad) and his opinion on at least American automobiles.

The man worked for Ford, assembling what hit the roads here. And REFUSED to ever buy one again after Toyota started selling here in the late 50's.

Growing up, I hated the man for reasons (rather racist bastard) but in his blunt opinion, no vehicle could compare to what the Japanese made. "Never buy an American car, Nyiah, they're a waste of money. I know, I built them. They aren't worth even a fraction of what they cost. Buy Toyotas, or Mazdas, built IN Japan. They are much higher quality and will be well worth your money when you learn to drive."

When the guys who built "Good Ol' American" admitted our vehicles are junk, it says something. He may have had some serious faults I still have a bone to pick with, but he was very serious when it came to his opinion on vehicle quality. Even my dad came to the same conclusion separately -- I never sat my butt on anything that wasn't Toyota growing up, and his Toyotas lasted decades of major "contractor abuse" that makes the F150 look like a starter truck.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 03:18 AM
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a reply to: BlueJacket

Nope, would love to go someday through.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 03:33 AM
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much on that list already saw a mark up in the EU, So I really don't see how them adding some more will matter.

when it came to buying clothes, I either got them on a US base or bought them in the US and had them shipped.

When I had to get my Wrangler worked on, the dealer ship told me to order the parts from Rock Auto or I would pay a huge mark up for them to get it and ship it in.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

yeah its culture shock going to Japan as an American. Lived there 3x. I love it, but it takes getting used to, and well goin without melons and honey dews



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: BlueJacket

Whats the deal with the melons through?

I would have thought Japan would have the climate for growing most fruit?




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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

well just not a lot of privately owned land Im guessing, most of the land I saw was owned by the emperor.

Im totally just spitballing. You wouldnt believe it though, the melons are wrapped ornamental paper or foil endcapped in coolers ...I havent been back since the 90s but I want to say I remember them being like 275k yen

whatever the actual yen figure, I could never afford to eat melons in Japan

also a lot of island states have super inflated prices due to shipping logistcs etc. ..maybe that plays into it, but everything is damn expensive there. it cost more than 25 bucks for a burger, fries and a coke at Johnny Rockets in Tokyo my 1st time there...never forgot that



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

my wife who also lived there just reminded me, theyre used for gifts. The grow them in green houses, they only allow 1 melon to grow on a vine and the throw away any with any imperfection...ie mishapen or off colored etc




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