Democratic Socialists of America Says They’re Coming After More Trump Officials (and more)

a reply to: infolurker

Communists marched in the 20s ...but I take your meaning.

Violent totalitarian assstripes under any flag is hard to watch.

a reply to: dragonridr

You should read my followup post. I wasn't trying to equate the two political systems, just the fact that they both had Socialist in their name and there are many people out there who stop reading at that point....

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: infolurker

Communists marched in the 20s ...but I take your meaning.

Violent totalitarian assstripes under any flag is hard to watch.

These tactics belong to one man Saul Alinsky, In Rules for Radicals he wrote:

The job of the organizer is to maneuver and bait the establishment so that it will publicly attack him as a 'dangerous enemy.' [According to Alinsky], the hysterical instant reaction of the establishment [will] not only validate [the organizer's] credentials of competency but also ensure automatic popular invitation.

Describes recent events over immigrants doesn't it. His tactics is to turn people against the state using emotions instead of reason. Ove been fascinated watching this.

See with Saul if he could get you to react emotionally he didn't need to worry about facts or future consequences. Case in point many who are screaming about this immigration debate have no alternative to present.

They know they dont like whats going on and very emotional about it. However they also have no solution to solve it and leave it to others to find a solution.

a reply to: dragonridr

You guys are the Alinsky experts ... For sure.

a reply to: dragonridr

True, and those tactics may very well work this time around because the DSP has the MSM staunchly in their corner stirring up negative emotions each and every day! And of course the optics at the border worked well in their favor.

While I disagree with the polilicies and politics of the DSP, I do admire the fact that unlike other Leftists, they dont hide behind phony labels like "Democrat" and "Liberal".

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: dragonridr

You guys are the Alinsky experts ... For sure.

Well yes i actually wrote a thesis on him in college. And thats what is being used here by threatening individuals thats rule 3 in his book.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: dragonridr

You guys are the Alinsky experts ... For sure.

Well yes i actually wrote a thesis on him in college. And thats what is being used here by threatening individuals thats rule 3 in his book.

Really? That's fascinating. (not sarcasm)

I didn't think any one had heard of him before Glenn Beck dredged him back up and enlightened us on how liberals were all using his nefarious tactics.

I really wasn't being sarcastic though ... you and others here really do seem to be Alinsky experts.

a reply to: TonyS

So ... followup, then "the Left" isn't actually related to actual people or what they believe or say about themselves, in your mind "the Left" is merely a blanket term for anyone and everyone you disagree with?

Wow, thanks for the stunning level of honesty.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: dragonridr

You guys are the Alinsky experts ... For sure.

Well yes i actually wrote a thesis on him in college. And thats what is being used here by threatening individuals thats rule 3 in his book.

Really? That's fasinating.

I don't think any one had heard of him before Glenn Beck dredged him back up and enlightened us on him.

I really wasn't being sarcastic though ... you and others here really do seem to be Alinsky experts.

Saul Alinsky was amazingly successful at changing US policies. In his book he explains that humans will always react with emotion the trick is to harvest that emotion for social change. Think about any issue and you will see how emotion will always Trump facts.

Look at the border situation great example Trump saw the issue as not wanting to release people into the United states without vetting. He wants to send people that could harm others home and refuse entry. For him during his campaign he talked with families that lost loved ones because an illegal alien killed them.

For him his emotional response is illegals should not be harming US citizens. This caused him to move to the extreme no one enters until they are approved. This isnt unreasonable especially since most people agree we dont want MS13 dismembering people in our country. See what i did there right?

Then we have Democrats they want open borders so they just demonize Trump. Because no one wants to see kids crying because they can't be with their parents. Emotions simply tell us this is wrong. And that means the democrats were using this to remove the zero tolerance policy. They want to return to catch and release. Where if they cant be processed in time they are released into the US and told to return for their court date. Facts tell us 93 percent are never seen again.

What we see is everyone looking for a political edge but for actual solutions this issue is way to complicated for emotional responses.

Lets look at something if we release anyone with children. We vannot even be sure they are their child many show up qith no documentation others learned you can buy them as needed. Ans still other forge them for the purpose of human trafficking. They bring these kids here to work to jand over their paychecks or will start them into prostitution. There is even incidents of selling them and no telling what happens to them.

How can you verify this well rule one is you need to get the kids alone and ask questions like whats your moms name. Did you have a pet whats his name. Where you going to school where was this. Do you remember your teachers name. How old are you? Then you go back to the mom or dad and ask when's their birthday. Where were they born. Did they have a pet. Whats their favorite ice cream.

So you get the idea now if we keep them together if it isnt their parent and the child was told i will kill you if you tell. Do you think they will say anything?

a reply to: infolurker

And Yet 20% of Americans believed in Trump's #ty idea, and key persons followed, until yesterday, it wouldn't take much to sway a lot more if just one of those very same illegals committed an especially heinous act.
And let's be clear here, they were separating family members, and where housing them, yes I said ("Where" as opposed to "ware" housing) as the parents and gov lost track of them, where have I seen this old black and white movie before?? ...many of you folks were ready to go to war over nonexistent Jade Helm, and Hobbit housing, FEMA camps ,Obama taking your guns, none of which happened, yet are blind to fukin show your papers please and hop on this bus you undesirable.. or in the words of our POTUS "Animals" aka subhuman things.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Not sure I'm entirely understanding your comment. Its not about whether or not I disagree with those who are "Leftists", its about their position on the political spectrum. That is to say.......they are not Centrists or Moderates Left of Center, they are, in reality further Left than that, as in "Progressives".

Its a term used by Moderate Democrats/Centrist Democrats when they get upset because they see their "Party" being hijacked by the "Leftists".

Maybe that clarifies the situation.

As to disagreeing with the "Leftits", since I've always been an "Individual Rights/Liberarian" type in favor of small government and strong local control I guess I do agree with much of the Leftist positions.

Then again............it doesn't really matter because what we all got at the end of the day is a Corporate Oligarchy. The "big" divide, Left v. Right has in essence been pushed to the margins and is now just a MSM talking point serving as endless click-bait.

a reply to: TonyS

You stated that Democrat and liberal were false terms, that in reality there are only leftists.

Sorry, I did project my understanding of your beliefs.

I agree that all $ide$ are false because they all work for the corporate overlords.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

We should all be fighting harder to make this country the best we think that it can be.

If that is what you think is people being the "best" that they can be, then you just proved my point.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Lab4Us

It's bull#. They were outside the restuarant. She was not chased out.
Daily caller? The Federalist?
Could you pick a more biased site than these two?

I would ask if you ever get tired of being wrong, but if you stopped that, we'd never hear a peep out of you.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Agit8dChop
Yes. I buy makeup, clothing and shoes online all the time. When I'm not buying I'm shopping or visiting beauty websites.
The ads are targeted to you and your interests.

I'm thinking you should spend more time shopping and less time on ATS. You obviously don't spend any time reading articles included in OP's links. Then you comment, essentially calling other posters liars so to speak when it is you who are in error.

a reply to: highvein

They believe it. That's why they fight. And unless your side fights back they will win just like the trumpsters did in 2016.

The leader of the Mexican restaurant demonstration was a paralegal at the DOJ. Her name is Allyson Grabi [sp] and is the head of the democratic socialists in Washington. It would appear that the deep state investigation is getting too close for her comfort. The closer to removing all the Obama sycophants, the more actions like the Nielsen episode will happen.


Since the Inspector General's report, there has been at least three legal actions against Trump. Two from the State of New York and one from the State of Illinois. Now, we have the border crisis. The border problem was started in 1990's by Bill Clinton and ignored by George Bush and politicized by Barak Obama. The news media has focused on Trump as being the cause of the problem. All seemingly generated by and coordinated with release of the IG report.


The resistance seems to be a smoke screen to cover the bad news coming from congress. The ratcheting up of the left's rhetoric has become more violent in nature causing speculation as to the safety of Republicans.

If Clinton and/or Obama are indicted the gloves will be off for the resistance.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: highvein

They believe it. That's why they fight. And unless your side fights back they will win just like the trumpsters did in 2016.

We are fighting back. Intellectually. The biggest way to expose idiots for their flawed ideology is to let them be their selves. Those who pay attention and see the flaws will figure it out.

a reply to: highvein

The biggest way to expose idiots for their flawed ideology is to let them be their selves. Those who pay attention and see the flaws will figure it out.

I like to believe this is true.

But I can respect a person that does what they feel they must.