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Peter Fonda Calls for People to Target the Children of ICE agents

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posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: notsure1

Wait! You're gay?





posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 09:12 AM
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(post by PublicOpinion removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Maybe I missed something.

You agree with Peter Fonda?



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: PublicOpinion

Maybe I missed something.

You agree with Peter Fonda?



Dont you mean Fondle?



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: notsure1

But... why can't you hate me instead?

There would be something to debate if you morons could try to address the content and ignore the player. Like... soccer? I'm pretty unlikeable as well and happen to agree with him again, on all accounts. Give it try?


You hate gay people too?



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: PublicOpinion

Maybe I missed something.

You agree with Peter Fonda?



Dont you mean Fondle?




I hope that catches on.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Surrounding schools in protest? Free speech doesn't have to be loud and disruptive, I'm thinking silent memorial of sorts. Not his plan though, or was it? Who knows, it's a stupid rant from another state of emotionalized mindlessness on Twatter.
Pity though, I sense some potential for a smarter activist with more refined ideas.

#MahatmaGhanja



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: Thejoncrichton

If this isn’t inciting a riot I don’t know what is. That guy should be arrested and charged. You can’t have a twitter account with over 50,000 followers and say stuff like this. Freedom of speech doesn’t apply to people falsely yelling about a fire in a theater. This is very serious and should be taken very seriously because people can get seriously hurt.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: WarPig1939
Correct!! Now the big question is will the National Guard be oath keepers and side with the Constitutional law being enforced on illegals or follow the dictates of the progressive, Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayres , Communist left. Make no mistake people of ATS we have a severe communist insurgency that has co-opted the media and twitter. It is a well organized group that has infiltrated our universities and secondary schools. A storm is brewing and all that are in tune with the forecasts get ready cause we have a gully washer coming.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: F4guy

So if anyone actually does dox agents in the next few days, Fonda gets nailed? Got it.


Not even close. There must be an imminent threat of violent overthrow of the government. Can you read?



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:00 PM
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IMO,The 2nd Civil War has already begun the only problem is that only one side is fighting right now. Remember the republican ball game that was attack by a crazed Bernie supporter? The only reason he attacked was the fact that they were all republicans. He could not hit a friendly face as he fired on them. Just a couple of months ago there was another crazed democrat down in Fla at one of Pres Trump's resorts. He opened fire screaming something or other about Pres Trump. The socialists in the country cannot be negotiated with. They want your total surrender. If they don't get it they will attack again either verbally or physically. See what they just did to the Director of Homeland Security while she was trying to eat dinner in a restaurant in DC. One of the attackers worked for the DOJ for crying out loud. How hard would it have been for one of those idiots screaming at her to have a weapon and used it on her? Not very hard. There are knives all over the place in a restaurant. It really,IMHO,is just a matter of time before one of these verbal attacks is carried out to the conclusion these people want.
Then what happens? Nothing good.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:56 PM
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The whole ICE thing is like hell but freezing over... in the Batman movie where Morgan Freeman's character looks at the cell phone link up system and warns Bruce of how dangerous a thing could be?

That's what the ICE system is/was...

P.S. I didn't even know Peter Fonda was still alive I thought he died about five years after "On Golden Pond". Jane Fonda however as far as I know like Richard Simmons was sweating to the oldies for much much longer; unless he of course has a junior?

None of my business either way.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 01:19 AM
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a reply to: Thejoncrichton

Homeland Security really should be visiting this guy. He also threatened Trump's son. It seems that his head, is in a place that is dangerous for the safety of children.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 04:25 AM
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a reply to: notsure1

I have nothing but respect for the LGBT community in general. Like any community, however, there are thieves, fraudsters and manipulators amongst them, just as there are in any large group of people. Whether we are talking about the police, minority groups in general, or the straight, "white" (more properly, off pink) male mass out there, the fact remains that every group of people, no matter how discerned apart from their fellows, is a member of the human race, and therefore there are going to be some bad apples in the bunch. The bad apples in ANY community, I have a problem with.

But... Thank you for confirming that you have no actual, solid, leave alone effective argument against my position as stated, notsure1. I can only assume as much, since you have yet to put one forward. The best you can do is deflect, which shows the weakness of your position. Good effort though. I am sure someone equally incompetent in debate tactics as yourself, will be along to gold star you, and throw word salad around to help draw attention away from the ineffectiveness of your argument.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 04:37 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Just out of curiosity......

What if this was said about Williams son( or whichever is pregnant, and the kid was born)..... in the UK

Whar would happen out I'd curiosity
edit on 6/22/2018 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 04:56 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

ManBehindTheMask,

I agree with you. This country has been to war over much less in the past. Of course, William and his son are members of the Royal Family, and Trump and his son are meaningless dross by comparison, not noble by birth or current station, so the situation is somewhat different. Your United States did away with the notion of accepting kings, for perfectly sensible reasons at the time I might add. As a result, any military action as a result of the utterance would be out of character for the United States.

That being said, what Peter Fonda said about Barron... Utterly unacceptable, without a question or a doubt, or a but, if or and. No one in their right mind would defend what he said, because it is without a doubt some of the most disgusting audiological bile ever spouted. You expect that from people on dodgy forums in the dusty corners of the web, not from public figures, who one at least expects to be smart enough to hide their particular malformities of mind from the public, even if they are going to continue to believe them at heart.

Personally, I would recommend that Trump sue the back end out of Fonda, leave him in a trailer park in some mosquito infested swamp region, and leave it at that. Not only would he definitely have a case, but it would remind some people that even if you are sticking a long blade into someone, you can do it with some class... of course, that would be a massive irony, given Trump's nature, but you never know, even he might learn something from it.
edit on 22-6-2018 by TrueBrit because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 05:02 AM
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a reply to: BEBOG

Ummmm What????

HENRY Fonda died after "On Golden Pond" back in '82.

Peter "EasyRider" Fonda is still around.

I liked Henry in "Fail Safe" and "My Name is Nobody".



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 07:09 PM
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Myth vs. Fact: DHS Zero-Tolerance Policy
Release Date: June 18, 2018
In recent days, we have seen reporters, Members of Congress, and other groups mislead the public on the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) zero-tolerance policy.

Federal law enforcement officers have sworn duties to enforce the laws that Congress passes. Repeating intentionally untrue and unsubstantiated statements about DHS agents, officers, and procedures is irresponsible and deeply disrespectful to the men and women who risk their lives every day to secure our border and enforce our laws.

Myth
DHS has a policy to separate families at the border.

Fact
DHS does not have a blanket policy of separating families at the border. However, DHS does have a responsibility to protect all minors in our custody. This means DHS will separate adults and minors under certain circumstances. These circumstances include: 1) when DHS is unable to determine the familial relationship, 2) when DHS determines that a child may be at risk with the parent or legal guardian, or 3) when the parent or legal guardian is referred for criminal prosecution.

Familial Relationship – If there is reason to question the claimed familial relationship between an adult and child, it is not appropriate to detain adults and children together.
Human Trafficking and Smuggling – If there is reason to suspect the purported parent or legal guardian of human trafficking or smuggling, DHS detains the adult in an appropriate, secure detection facility, separate from the minor. DHS continues to see instances and intelligence reports indicating minors are trafficked by unrelated adults, posing as a “family” in an effort to avoid detention.
Safety Risk – If there is reason to suspect the purported parent or legal guardian poses a safety risk to the child (e.g. suspected child abuse), it is not appropriate to maintain the adult and child together.
Criminal Prosecution – If an adult is referred for criminal prosecution, the adult will be transferred to U.S. Marshals Service custody and any children will be classified as an unaccompanied alien child and transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services custody.
In recent months, DHS has seen a staggering increase in the number of illegal aliens using children to pose as family units to gain entry into the United States. From October 2017 to February 2018, there was a 315 percent increase in the number of cases of adults with minors fraudulently posing as “family units” to gain entry.

Myth
Prior to April 2017, DHS never separated families arriving at the border.

Fact
DHS has separated families under the circumstances described above. Because of court decisions, DHS can generally no longer hold families in detention beyond 20 days.

Myth
DHS can indefinitely detain families who cross the border illegally.

Fact
DHS generally releases families within 20 days. This creates a “get out of jail free” card for illegal alien families and encourages groups of illegal aliens to pose as families hoping to take advantage of that loophole.

In 2014, DHS increased detention facilities for arriving alien families and held families pending the outcome of immigration proceedings. However, a federal judge ruled in 2016 that under the Flores Settlement Agreement, minors detained as part of a family unit cannot be detained in unlicensed facilities for longer than a presumptively reasonable period of 20 days, at which point, such minors must be released or transferred to a licensed facility. Because most jurisdictions do not offer licensure for family residential centers, DHS rarely holds family units for longer than 20 days. The judge’s ruling made it much more difficult for the Federal government to use the detention authorities Congress gave it.

Myth
DHS is referring for prosecution all families coming to the border.

Fact
DHS only refers to the Department of Justice those adults who violate the law by crossing the border illegally (or who have violated some other criminal law) and are amenable for prosecution. When adults, with or without children, unlawfully enter this country, there must be a consequence for breaking our laws.

DHS is not referring for prosecutions families or individuals arriving at ports of entry or attempting to enter the country through legal means. These families and individuals have not broken the law and will be processed accordingly.

Myth
DHS is turning away asylum seekers at ports of entry.

Fact
DHS complies with Federal law with regard to processing individuals claiming asylum at ports of entry.

CBP processes all aliens arriving at all ports of entry without documents as expeditiously as possible without negatively affecting the agency's primary mission to protect the American public from dangerous people and materials while enhancing the nation’s economic competitiveness through facilitating legitimate trade and travel.

As the number of arriving aliens determined to be inadmissible at ports of entry continues to rise, CBP must prioritize its limited resources to ensure its primary mission is being executed. Depending on port circumstances at the time of arrival, CBP officials will allocate the necessary resources to its primary mission and operate appropriate access controls and queue management procedures for those arriving aliens without proper travel documents.

Myth
DHS separates families who entered at the ports of entry and who are seeking asylum – even though they have not broken the law.

Fact
If an adult enters at a port of entry and claims asylum, they will not face prosecution for illegal entry. DHS does have a responsibility to protect minors we apprehend and will separate in three circumstances:1) when DHS is unable to determine the familial relationship, 2) when DHS determines that a child may be at risk with the parent or legal guardian, or 3) when the parent or legal guardian is referred for criminal prosecution.

Myth
Once separated, arriving alien adults cannot contact minors and are not told where the minors are being held by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

Fact
DHS is committed to and has procedures in place to connect family members after separation so adults know the location of minors and have regular communication with them.

HHS and DHS work to facilitate communication between detained adults and minors (in HHS custody) in a number of ways to include telephone and/or video conferencing. Additionally, ICE has posted information in all over 72-hour facilities advising detained adults who are trying to locate, and/or communicate with a child in the custody of HHS to call the Detention Reporting and Information Line (DRIL) for assistance. This posted information includes:

HHS Adult Hotline (24 hours a day, 7 days a week, in both English and Spanish):
If calling from outside an ICE detention facility, call 1-800-203-7001.
If calling from an ICE detention facility, dial 699# on the free call platform.
Please note that you will need to provide the child’s full name, date of birth, and country of origin. It is also helpful to provide the child’s alien registration number, if you know it.
HHS Email: information@ORRNCC.com
Individuals may also obtain information about a particular immigration case (including their child’s), or information about reunifying with minors, through the following methods:

ICE Call Center (Monday-Friday, 8 am-8 pm EST):
pls read Facts



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Muninn

Well done.

That contribution to the thread really bought something to the table. Great effort.


Try attacking the argument instead next time, noob.
. You know it's real hard to deal with someone who's being emotional. You see I thrive on indifference TB. It's my bread and butter. It's why I have won every debate I was ever in with flying colors blue ribbons and the scornful stares of those who sat second and third.

My point is your arguments lack a certain personal responsibility in regards to their "do as I say not as I do" ad hominem attacks. In this instance it is when you lowered yourself by calling another member a "noob". Name-calling is automatically disqualifier in any controlled debate and irl prppf your argument lacks logical but instead only has emotional merit. I have seen you on both sides of some politics but you seem extra emotional this thread. I was going to waste my time using citations to destroy KS but your emoplosion has actually caught my eye. Uncharacteristic of you. Please do not allow the habitual disrespect you see in others infect your etiquette. You don't know me under this name, but we have sparred many years here before I was prior account banned...again and again.







 
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