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Violent crime rises in Germany and is attributed to refugees

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posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere


They need to get rid of German Hillary.

While they have some of their Country left.




That's like calling her the Canadian Devil.





posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: loam

It's more like, "the least jaywalking and crimes in general for the last 25-30 years, but there was an increase in violent crime strictly over the last 2 or 3 years". The overall stats including violent crimes are incredibly low, which is why they strictly are focusing on the short 2-3 year period in question.

People do the same thing here in the US. The overall crime stats have been on a downward trend for a long time, but anytime there's a blip in that trend, people point to it as if it's indicative of the overall situation.

For an example, check out this article listing the number of American police killed in the line of duty (HERE). 2017 had the second lowest amount of police killed in the line of duty since the 1950s (129). Only 2013 was lower with 120. Those numbers are roughly half as many as the number of cops killed each year in the 1970s and about one third less than the number of cops killed each year in the 1980s and 1990s. In other words, the overall trend has been a steady decrease in the number of police killed in the US from decade to decade.

But if we strictly compare the stats from 2013 to 2014, there was a 23% jump in the number of police killings. So does that represent a massive crisis or is it a temporary increase from a historic low?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: MiddleInsite

So the OP posted about violent crime, people you probably starred mistakenly posted about overall crime, could Trump had made the same mistake to the opposite effect or no?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 03:57 PM
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Statistically and sadistically things are great!! Couldn't be better




posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: JAY1980

To be fair, there was no link in the OP when I made my initial post. So it's ironic that you're mentioning credibility and "the left" when the original statements in the OP could've come from anywhere or nowhere at all since they had no links to support them.
edit on 19-6-2018 by enlightenedservant because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: MiddleInsite
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Well President Trump told me crime went up in Germany. Is he a liar? No need to answer the question, we all know he is, even his followers. They won't admit it, but they know.


You got proof?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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So President Trump was correct? Tell me it ain’t so. That guy is well informed.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

For clarity, before the right wingers blame Syrian refugees.



It noted, however, that migrants settling from war-torn countries such as Syria were much less likely to commit violent crimes that those from other places who were unlikely to be given asylum.




Asylum seekers who are regarded as war refugees who have relatively good chances of staying in Germany tend to avoid trouble more, the study found.

Around 17 percent of violent crimes in Lower Saxony that were attributed to refugees, for example, were suspected of being committed by North African asylum seekers who made up less than 1 percent of the state’s registered refugee population. North African asylum seekers have relatively slim chances of obtaining legal status in Germany.



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 02:09 AM
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Violent crime is down in Germany in 2017.

So is the number of crimes where there are immigrants.

So much like Trumps tweet the OP is clearly wrong.

I thought ATS was enforcing a no spin off thread rule again?



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 02:12 AM
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sorry, what is this article from Nov 2017 talking about again?

www.thelocal.de...

Perhaps German people don't believe their own News, like the Americans?



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: Nickn3
So President Trump was correct? Tell me it ain’t so. That guy is well informed.


He was wrong.

Overall crime is down.

Violent crime is down.

Crime by immigrants is down.

He was wrong on every level.



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 02:17 AM
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originally posted by: gort51
sorry, what is this article from Nov 2017 talking about again?

www.thelocal.de...

Perhaps German people don't believe their own News, like the Americans?


Article talks about 1 city (and 2016 figures), If crime is up in Chicago does that mean it has risen for the US?



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04




So in the span of 6 months the MSN has switched from it's rising to it's really low after Trump says it's rising.


Nope. This is about the crime figures in Lower Saxony only, Germany has more states than that.

Geographie - 6, setzen!



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: Swills

They blame the illegal immigrants. Not the ones legally seeking asylum and qualifying.

Basically the people Trump wants to keep out would be the type doing the crimes. Not eligible for asylum but demand entry as an economic migrant aka illegal immigrants in the USA.



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

They use lower Saxony for their statistics. Blame them not me. Them would be Germany.



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

Yawn, here is the interior minister of Germany in 2017.


The report, which was presented by de Maiziere in Berlin, also highlighted a considerable growth in murder and manslaughter and in rape and sexual assault cases. The statistics were up 14.3 percent and 12.8 percent from 2015, respectively. The numbers were, however, more dramatic among asylum seekers: crimes committed by refugees were up 52.7 percent in 2016 compared to 2015.

"There is nothing there to sugarcoat," de Maiziere said, while stressing that the majority of both foreign and German-born offenders in these categories were young men. "There is an overall rise in disrespect, violence, and hate," de Maiziere added.

m.dw.com...



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

such bs, look you take 1 million people from a lawless 3rd world country they are going to bring those problems with them

quit trying to ignore the truth so you can virtue signal



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: ScepticScot

such bs, look you take 1 million people from a lawless 3rd world country they are going to bring those problems with them

quit trying to ignore the truth so you can virtue signal


Is virtue signalling another way if saying using facts?

I don't recall saying that there are no problems associate with high numbers of refugees. I said the OP is wrong, which it is.



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

Interior minister of Germany disagrees with you.



posted on Jun, 20 2018 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

It's the same old news from our former minister, die Miesere. He blew up Christian Pfeiffers Lower Saxony statistics for the sake of their Brave New Security.
Same sh!t this year with the new ministry of SEDhofer running amok regardless of the actual numbers. And here we are, with people like you mistaking the gubmints spin for the truth (TM).

No. Yes. D'OH!

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