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The situation on the southern border makes me sick.

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posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ManFromEurope

originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: ManFromEurope

Cool comic, even if its false.


Evil. Nothing else. Deny it all you want.


What's evil is pretending it's for the children when all you want is open borders and the destruction of the United States.


LOL. This is the Republican talking point and a lie. Not one Democrat on the Hill is advocating for open borders. Open borders for immigration is not a Democratic platform and it never was.




posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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If you had it the way you are suggesting, I think you would be much sicker when the manifestations of such irresponsibility is in full bloom.
For myself , I would love it if all those people you mention wanted to come here and live the dream as founded so many years ago.. . .but instead it seems they want to change the nation I love into their dream.
Love, compassion and help can be given in an orderly managed society, that is a truism that those who claim to be humanitarians fail to see. . Without the order defining a society any and all countries fail, like in the story of Camelot.
When the government as first established, of which we struggle to keep is polluted beyond repair then it is we who have lived in such a place who loose.
However, if you are talking about the United States, there is a legal pathway into our country. It was created to be fair to the real citizens of the United states, while being considerate and fair to those who want to be part of our country. My son in-law took that pathway, he jumped through the hoops; It wasn't fun but he did what was asked of him. Why should others be treated special because they didn't even try the legal and honest way?
When you water a garden you don't use a fire hose, or even a regular hose on full volume, you use a sprinkler.
Then you know how much water you are adding at any given time, and you are not killing the plants already growing there.
If you need a comparison on compassion, go and invade a European country and compare the difference. If you try this however, create a thread on ATS about your experience.......I would love to read it.
I'm glad you care, I wish everyone did. There has to be checks and balances in life, or there is only collapse.


When reply to: MrRCflying


edit on bTuesday0161906am62018-06-19T10:01:48-05:002018-06-19T10:01:48-05:00 by Blindmancc because: Correcting a word or two.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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offtopic opinion - I actually like the confederate flag and I love the history on both sides of the civil war. I don't see anything wrong with southern pride. It is a southern thing...

On topic:

You want open borders - go to the EU. They love open borders

edit on 19-6-2018 by WarPig1939 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: ManFromEurope

I deny that what the comic is portraying is false.

You can't prove that it is happening, whereas everyone here can prove that its not.

Run along now.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ManFromEurope

originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: ManFromEurope

Cool comic, even if its false.


Evil. Nothing else. Deny it all you want.


What's evil is pretending it's for the children when all you want is open borders and the destruction of the United States.


LOL. This is the Republican talking point and a lie. Not one Democrat on the Hill is advocating for open borders. Open borders for immigration is not a Democratic platform and it never was.



Lie.

You can call it whatever you want, but when you endorse free access across the borders without threat or punishment, you are de facto endorsing open borders.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: Blindmancc

Did you read the whole OP? Does not sound like it.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454


Trump's base was cultivated and emboldened by Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon.

Steve Bannon: 'Let them call you racist ... Wear it as a badge of honor' abcnews.go.com...



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: WarPig1939

Off-topic reply: You might consider talking to some of your neighbors, the ones tearing down statues and such!

They seem to have a teeny bit different philosophy!



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy


Okay wise guy. Show me! Show me these Democrats on the Hill that are promoting open borders for immigration. Show me where in the Democratic platform they advocate for open borders for immigration.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: WarPig1939
offtopic opinion - I actually like the confederate flag and I love the history on both sides of the civil war. I don't see anything wrong with southern pride. It is a southern thing...

On topic:

You want open borders - go to the EU. They love open borders


Growing up in NY, but spending a lot of summers in the south, I have to agree. Not once did I ever see the Confederate Battle Flag used as a symbol of hatred or bigotry, just pride.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy


Okay wise guy. Show me! Show me these Democrats on the Hill that are promoting open borders for immigration. Show me where in the Democratic platform they advocate for open borders for immigration.


Are they looking to abolish punishment for illegal crossing?

Here's your sign.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy


Okay wise guy. Show me! Show me these Democrats on the Hill that are promoting open borders for immigration. Show me where in the Democratic platform they advocate for open borders for immigration.


Funny you demand he show that after he perceived it through tone and demands (stopping prosecution of first time offenders) ....

Yet you have no problem pawning off to us that Trump will be Hitler and a genocide is soon.

I really don't think you have a concept on how debate works.
edit on 19-6-2018 by CriticalStinker because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


A philosophy of trying to erase history? Yup. I am just waiting on the day they start calling for a book burning charade to rid our culture of all racist texts... Pretty soon they will be playing to the same fiddle that the socialist party of Germany did. Time will tell maybe.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

LOL yes! Those terms are used so much to derail discussion and critical thought, as you are doing in this thread, and they are saying to wear it so it will lose its power.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Youd think they would do that before they initiate the action that leads to a lifeform growing inside of them.

Should we be as gleeful about mass casualties from natural disasters? After all that is just mother nature scrapping a cluster of cells out of her body. Why admonish mother nature for her empowerment, it should be celebrated correct?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Your country is not DEALING with the situation at all. I do not recall hearing about enormous numbers of federal agents, members of the CIA, NSA and DEA being arrested for being involved in providing weapons, supplies and training to narco-terror groups, nor about the arrest or public outing of people involved in the start up of these narco-terror groups, these cartels that the CIA has been doing very good business with for decades. I do not recall about hearing of senators and congresspersons, or any of the people who string pulled any of the mess down south of the border since the fifties, being publicly charged, or if dead, named and shamed.

I have not heard that the supply chain has been interrupted, that the intelligence agencies no longer have a relationship with the cartels, and every other decade there is a story which cannot be hidden, which proves that connection is simply never going to die unless someone kills it, because it is too lucrative for the US governments less noble arms, to have a slush fund made of drug money to operate with.

And when the displaced masses from the US's faux drug wars, that it profits from as it happens, come running for the border because their local police chief just got his head cut off and put on a stick on their front yard, you want to persecute these people? Drug policy in America has destroyed South Americas stability for years, leave alone all the political assassinations carried out by the US intelligence agencies, of leaders and activists trying to reclaim the South American nations for their people, and the best you can do to take responsibility for all that, is to screw those who just want to not be under threat of being caught between two rival cartels in a full on war?

What kind of compassion is that? I could understand this crap a damned sight easier, if the United States was not responsible for the ENTIRE migrant situation. You don't want immigration from the Arabic speaking nations, then stop blowing them up! You don't want immigration from South America? Stop promoting policies covert and overt that make things worse in the regions concerned, and PROVE that you have, by getting rid of all the agency goons from out of South America, removing all under the table support from the cartels, removing the protections given to certain routes and methods of supply, and cutting of the source of demand by an extensive decriminalisation effort, along with expansion of treatment programs, to get drug addicts off the hard stuff, without making life horrific for people who don't deserve it.

If you are not trying to have your cake and eat it, no one will complain when you get a little frosting around your mouth from time to time.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

I can actually agree that this situation is exacerbated by our foreign policy, which I have widely criticized here. The failed wars that benefit a few but ruin the lives of many are horrible.

Unfortunately both parties here are pro war, and neither really touch on what we do in South America.

Until we can get a hold on lobbyism and campaign contributions, I unfortunately don't see a change in any of this soon.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:45 AM
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Just think less then ten thousand years agaio There was NOT a single illegal on teh planet just humans who went from one place to another .
You know the lines you see on a map can not been seen any other way .
Illegal aliens lol from mars maybe ever wonder why they dropped the alien part ?
maybe just because its makes it to easy to realize no such thing as illegals one planet humans live on .

Having said all that the ONLY valed point is resources and demand x amount of resources means x amount of people suing them any thing over that new people must find another area .



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: midnightstar

So you want the governments to dissolve? Because they exist by taxes.

Who builds the roads in your utopia?

Or do we have a one world government? Because we've all seen efficiency rise as the government gets bigger.
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posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ManFromEurope

originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: ManFromEurope

Cool comic, even if its false.


Evil. Nothing else. Deny it all you want.


What's evil is pretending it's for the children when all you want is open borders and the destruction of the United States.


LOL. This is the Republican talking point and a lie. Not one Democrat on the Hill is advocating for open borders. Open borders for immigration is not a Democratic platform and it never was.



Lie.

You can call it whatever you want, but when you endorse free access across the borders without threat or punishment, you are de facto endorsing open borders.


who and how many "endorse free access across the borders"....it's like we democrats saying that white conservative southerners endorse child rape, because of the age limit laws for marriage




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