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originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Kharron
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Kharron
I'm willing to bet most of it is a response to strangers telling other strangers they are racist Nazis that have no compassion without even knowing that person.
Well, I've watched people bet on terrible odds for years, so I wouldn't blame you.
However, it is important to understand that this website is an alt-right echo chamber and that these fringe views are not shared by nine out of ten people in the real world. That's why people come here to get stars and flags they could not get anywhere else. Yet. Luckily.
And yet not so long ago, this website was the Hope and Change platform, where anyone that disagreed with Obama was automatically a racist.
I don't think following the law is a fringe view, nor do I think these people
would agree with you.
Unfortunately thousands and thousands of acres of heartland doesn't count as people.....
Trump lost the popular vote.
And your side lost the election. It's over. Give it another shot in a couple years. (but if you really want to win, I'd find a likable candidate, not the wicked witch of the west)
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Kharron
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Kharron
I'm willing to bet most of it is a response to strangers telling other strangers they are racist Nazis that have no compassion without even knowing that person.
Well, I've watched people bet on terrible odds for years, so I wouldn't blame you.
However, it is important to understand that this website is an alt-right echo chamber and that these fringe views are not shared by nine out of ten people in the real world. That's why people come here to get stars and flags they could not get anywhere else. Yet. Luckily.
And yet not so long ago, this website was the Hope and Change platform, where anyone that disagreed with Obama was automatically a racist.
I don't think following the law is a fringe view, nor do I think these people
would agree with you.
Unfortunately thousands and thousands of acres of heartland doesn't count as people.....
Trump lost the popular vote.
And your side lost the election. It's over. Give it another shot in a couple years. (but if you really want to win, I'd find a likable candidate, not the wicked witch of the west)
Yep, there's that great respect for free speech ... "shut up, you guys lost. "
#sad
#firstamendment
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Wayfarer
The funny thing is ... they can't think far enough into their own strategy on this ... if the Democrats are for open borders, why did they pass this horrible law that requires kids to be taken away from their parents?
Derp.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste".
So they can claim the GOP did it, and then appear benevolent while grandstanding on the soapbox
... and now you're just spouting silly rhetoric.
No Democrat is for open borders, if you have the names of Democrats who are, provide them.
Trump's Administration is separating kids at the border. That is not a legal requirement of the law.
SO, in actually, the GOP is doing it.
... and if anybody knows about grandstanding, it's Trump.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Kharron
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Kharron
I'm willing to bet most of it is a response to strangers telling other strangers they are racist Nazis that have no compassion without even knowing that person.
Well, I've watched people bet on terrible odds for years, so I wouldn't blame you.
However, it is important to understand that this website is an alt-right echo chamber and that these fringe views are not shared by nine out of ten people in the real world. That's why people come here to get stars and flags they could not get anywhere else. Yet. Luckily.
And yet not so long ago, this website was the Hope and Change platform, where anyone that disagreed with Obama was automatically a racist.
I don't think following the law is a fringe view, nor do I think these people
would agree with you.
Unfortunately thousands and thousands of acres of heartland doesn't count as people.....
Trump lost the popular vote.
And your side lost the election. It's over. Give it another shot in a couple years. (but if you really want to win, I'd find a likable candidate, not the wicked witch of the west)
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Wayfarer
See, that attitude right there is fringe, and you don't see it.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Gryphon66
We'll see once that democrat Paul Ryan is gone wont we
Which Democrats support open borders?
Who supports The Wall on it's own merits?
You're making the claims ... just tell us.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Wayfarer
See, that attitude right there is fringe, and you don't see it.
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Wayfarer
a reply to: Wayfarer
I think you're having trouble grasping what I'm asking, so I'll posit it another way:
Lets list the facts:
-Children are being forcibly removed from their parents while their immigration status is determined
-This is occurring whether they walk into the immigration office of their own volition or being brought in by ICE/customs
What you have intimated so far is that there is nothing wrong with separating families (even when they haven't committed a crime), since those that walked in and asked for Asylum probably aren't going to get it anyways, and therefore have entered illegally (by proxy) and deserve to have their children taken from them.
Well yes, if children are being separated from parents, their parents jailed after entering a legal point of entry, that is unjust. Can you show me an example of this?
Here's an article discussing some
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Kharron
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Kharron
I'm willing to bet most of it is a response to strangers telling other strangers they are racist Nazis that have no compassion without even knowing that person.
Well, I've watched people bet on terrible odds for years, so I wouldn't blame you.
However, it is important to understand that this website is an alt-right echo chamber and that these fringe views are not shared by nine out of ten people in the real world. That's why people come here to get stars and flags they could not get anywhere else. Yet. Luckily.
And yet not so long ago, this website was the Hope and Change platform, where anyone that disagreed with Obama was automatically a racist.
I don't think following the law is a fringe view, nor do I think these people
would agree with you.
Unfortunately thousands and thousands of acres of heartland doesn't count as people.....
Trump lost the popular vote.
And your side lost the election. It's over. Give it another shot in a couple years. (but if you really want to win, I'd find a likable candidate, not the wicked witch of the west)
Yep, there's that great respect for free speech ... "shut up, you guys lost. "
#firstamendment
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Wayfarer
a reply to: Wayfarer
I think you're having trouble grasping what I'm asking, so I'll posit it another way:
Lets list the facts:
-Children are being forcibly removed from their parents while their immigration status is determined
-This is occurring whether they walk into the immigration office of their own volition or being brought in by ICE/customs
What you have intimated so far is that there is nothing wrong with separating families (even when they haven't committed a crime), since those that walked in and asked for Asylum probably aren't going to get it anyways, and therefore have entered illegally (by proxy) and deserve to have their children taken from them.
Well yes, if children are being separated from parents, their parents jailed after entering a legal point of entry, that is unjust. Can you show me an example of this?
Here's an article discussing some
“Everybody we’ve talked to who’s been prosecuted or separated has crossed the river without a visa.”
So no, it is untrue that innocents are being prosecuted and separated.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Kharron
And that's exactly why the Electoral College exists. Without it, you'd be more than happy to silence the voices and representation of those you disagree with regardless of the merit of their argument.
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Kharron
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Kharron
I'm willing to bet most of it is a response to strangers telling other strangers they are racist Nazis that have no compassion without even knowing that person.
Well, I've watched people bet on terrible odds for years, so I wouldn't blame you.
However, it is important to understand that this website is an alt-right echo chamber and that these fringe views are not shared by nine out of ten people in the real world. That's why people come here to get stars and flags they could not get anywhere else. Yet. Luckily.
And yet not so long ago, this website was the Hope and Change platform, where anyone that disagreed with Obama was automatically a racist.
I don't think following the law is a fringe view, nor do I think these people
would agree with you.
Unfortunately thousands and thousands of acres of heartland doesn't count as people.....
Trump lost the popular vote.
And your side lost the election. It's over. Give it another shot in a couple years. (but if you really want to win, I'd find a likable candidate, not the wicked witch of the west)
This is such a tired quip, I'm rather disappointed in you Network Dude....
I'm not lamenting losing the election, so I give you permission to lower any hackles raised over me proffering the fact that the majority of American's didn't vote for Trump....
I and many others are in fact actively working towards the next election, so in that regard rest assured we are focused on the future, and not changing the 2016 election.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Kharron
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Kharron
I'm willing to bet most of it is a response to strangers telling other strangers they are racist Nazis that have no compassion without even knowing that person.
Well, I've watched people bet on terrible odds for years, so I wouldn't blame you.
However, it is important to understand that this website is an alt-right echo chamber and that these fringe views are not shared by nine out of ten people in the real world. That's why people come here to get stars and flags they could not get anywhere else. Yet. Luckily.
And yet not so long ago, this website was the Hope and Change platform, where anyone that disagreed with Obama was automatically a racist.
I don't think following the law is a fringe view, nor do I think these people
would agree with you.
Unfortunately thousands and thousands of acres of heartland doesn't count as people.....
Trump lost the popular vote.
And your side lost the election. It's over. Give it another shot in a couple years. (but if you really want to win, I'd find a likable candidate, not the wicked witch of the west)
Yep, there's that great respect for free speech ... "shut up, you guys lost. "
#firstamendment
explain how I tried to silence anyone free speech. That or an apology will be fine.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: Kharron
And that's exactly why the Electoral College exists. Without it, you'd be more than happy to silence the voices and representation of those you disagree with regardless of the merit of their argument.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Wayfarer
a reply to: Wayfarer
I think you're having trouble grasping what I'm asking, so I'll posit it another way:
Lets list the facts:
-Children are being forcibly removed from their parents while their immigration status is determined
-This is occurring whether they walk into the immigration office of their own volition or being brought in by ICE/customs
What you have intimated so far is that there is nothing wrong with separating families (even when they haven't committed a crime), since those that walked in and asked for Asylum probably aren't going to get it anyways, and therefore have entered illegally (by proxy) and deserve to have their children taken from them.
Well yes, if children are being separated from parents, their parents jailed after entering a legal point of entry, that is unjust. Can you show me an example of this?
Here's an article discussing some
“Everybody we’ve talked to who’s been prosecuted or separated has crossed the river without a visa.”
So no, it is untrue that innocents are being prosecuted and separated.
Is it also untrue that the current policy of zero tolerance was put in place by the Trump Adminsitration?