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Shocker: Trump lies about crime in Germany

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posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Statistic: Homicides in germany




posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 08:19 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

Where in germany you cant go out at daytime?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: Phage

A remember a time on ATS when you were respected by the whole board. They even made up a PHAGE signal so you would run in and debunk whatever doom porn was up that day.

Now you are just like Silly . Think about that for a second..
edit on 19-6-2018 by notsure1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 08:31 AM
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originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: dragonridr

Statistic: Homicides in germany


2017 reported rapes11,282
2016 7,919
from the link in this artcle. www.nytimes.com...


Maybe that's why some women dont feel safe going out in parts of Germany at night? Not because they are worried about their car being scratched or being shot, but because they feel at risk of sexual violence?

Its tough reading that article, because some crimes have risen and others have fallen, so overall the trend is down, but when you get right down to it, no one cares about shoplifting or insurance fraud so it's not really a fair representation.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: JinMI

Here's what President Trump said yesterday morning on Twitter:


Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump

The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!

9:02 AM - 18 Jun 2018


Between the OP and the President of the United States, who is closer to the truth? I would say that objectively, it's the OP. Crime in Germany is not "way up" is it? In fact, from what I was reading a few weeks back, it was at a 30 year low.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: JinMI

Here's what President Trump said yesterday morning on Twitter:


Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump

The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!

9:02 AM - 18 Jun 2018


Between the OP and the President of the United States, who is closer to the truth? I would say that objectively, it's the OP. Crime in Germany is not "way up" is it? In fact, from what I was reading a few weeks back, it was at a 30 year low.


Check violent crime then get back to us..

But that wont fit your agenda so you wont care..



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 09:14 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: JinMI

Here's what President Trump said yesterday morning on Twitter:


Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump

The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!

9:02 AM - 18 Jun 2018


Between the OP and the President of the United States, who is closer to the truth? I would say that objectively, it's the OP. Crime in Germany is not "way up" is it? In fact, from what I was reading a few weeks back, it was at a 30 year low.


So violent crime like rape and murder is down? Is that your stance?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Crickets.. Does this mean Trump was telling the truth and the OP and you are liars?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: notsure1

It means that you are full of it and just passing the bucket of propaganda.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

Kinda funny that it's you guys, who keep calling out the MSM as traitors whilst cherrypicking their stupid headlines for your own spin.

Fascinating!



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: notsure1

It means that you are full of it and just passing the bucket of propaganda.


That you and others can't seem to produce evidence to the contrary. So one person has evidence to support their claim, you dismiss without evidence to support your claim, and he/she is the one with the bucket of propaganda? Interesting. You do realize that it is possible for the total of crime to go down, and yet still have an upwards swing in violent crime, same as you could have overall crime go up, but violent crime go down, you can at least admit that right?

I am not going to proclaim anything about living in Germany, as I don't live there, but from what I've been shown, violent crime is up, non-violent crime is down, take that for whatever it means over there, but that is or appears to be the truth.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: Phage

A remember a time on ATS when you were respected by the whole board. They even made up a PHAGE signal so you would run in and debunk whatever doom porn was up that day.

Now you are just like Silly . Think about that for a second..


Yeah ATS has changed into a far right and white site where Trump social media supporters are given free reign to post slanderous posts against anyone not in their tiny fringe bubble as a smokescreen to distract against the reality of his criminality

Before the alt right boot boys had their man in power this used to be a fiercely anti Russian site but now they embrace their White Russian brothers

Trump yet again has posted deceitful comments on Twitter, he realy doesn’t like Europe or the old school west because of the massive chip he has on his shoulders from him being vulgar classless money that old and new money kept their distance from

His pettiness at not been accepted as equals dictate his actions and being the media whore he has always been he whines like crazy on his twitter account playing the victim while pointing at others in his deception game

Phage is still highly respected, And a welcome voice to the insanity that has taken over here



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: uninspired

You can't look up statistics or read articles on your own, which is why you'll get mockery instead.



I am not going to proclaim anything about living in Germany, as I don't live there, but from what I've been shown, violent crime is up, non-violent crime is down, take that for whatever it means over there, but that is or appears to be the truth.


We have a few statistika links in this thread already, all of them prove you to be wrong there. The people produce evidence to the contrary and most of the idiots tend to ignore it for the sake of their bias.

Flüchtlinge sind nicht krimineller als Deutsche

You folks should learn to use a translator, I have yet to see different results than that.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: dragonridr

Statistic: Homicides in germany


2017 reported rapes11,282
2016 7,919
from the link in this artcle. www.nytimes.com...


Maybe that's why some women dont feel safe going out in parts of Germany at night? Not because they are worried about their car being scratched or being shot, but because they feel at risk of sexual violence?

Its tough reading that article, because some crimes have risen and others have fallen, so overall the trend is down, but when you get right down to it, no one cares about shoplifting or insurance fraud so it's not really a fair representation.





Did you not see the little * beside the figure.

Changes to the metric means you can't compare year on year.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: DupontDeux

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DupontDeux

Your link states, migrants may have contributed in a 10% violent crime rise and that 92 % could be attributed to migrants so that's what 9% of that increase is migrants .

Now I'm not sure of your math skills but I'm guessing they are not all that good, if you think a 9 % increase of violent crimes is the end of the world.

I couldn't be arsed looking but I'm betting violent crime is not all that high in Germany and a 9 % increase in negligible.



~20,000 more violent crimes are negligible?

You tell that to the victims and their families - sorry, but you are negligible; we need you to be raped a couple of times more to not be insignificant. Right.

(also, 10% is in itself a worrying rise in a country where crime otherwise is down)


Reported violent crime is down in Germany. Not up.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: pronto

Meanwhile his post is accurate so what's the comment about growing up all about?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: gariac

Anyone that actually believes Germany is a migrant ridden failed state most likely has already suffered a lobotomy, well either that or they rely completely on media for their world views.





So those police chiefs whom report that some areas are barred to police, due to the migrant violence, are living in cloud cuckoo land ? try searching for German police reports, rather than starting a pointless augment.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: notsure1

But it fits yours to section out a category right?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DupontDeux

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DupontDeux

Your link states, migrants may have contributed in a 10% violent crime rise and that 92 % could be attributed to migrants so that's what 9% of that increase is migrants .

Now I'm not sure of your math skills but I'm guessing they are not all that good, if you think a 9 % increase of violent crimes is the end of the world.

I couldn't be arsed looking but I'm betting violent crime is not all that high in Germany and a 9 % increase in negligible.



~20,000 more violent crimes are negligible?

You tell that to the victims and their families - sorry, but you are negligible; we need you to be raped a couple of times more to not be insignificant. Right.

(also, 10% is in itself a worrying rise in a country where crime otherwise is down)


Reported violent crime is down in Germany. Not up.


Funny then why did the german government admit to an increase dod they make a typo? To deny there is a problem is stupid. Here PBS does a good job at presenting both sides of the issue. And Germany seriously needs to reconsider its policies involving north Africa.

www.pbs.org...

PS germany isnt the only country in Europe having this problem. ITALY IS NOW ACTIVELY STOPPING IMMIGRANTS.



edit on 6/19/18 by dragonridr because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DupontDeux

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DupontDeux

Your link states, migrants may have contributed in a 10% violent crime rise and that 92 % could be attributed to migrants so that's what 9% of that increase is migrants .

Now I'm not sure of your math skills but I'm guessing they are not all that good, if you think a 9 % increase of violent crimes is the end of the world.

I couldn't be arsed looking but I'm betting violent crime is not all that high in Germany and a 9 % increase in negligible.



~20,000 more violent crimes are negligible?

You tell that to the victims and their families - sorry, but you are negligible; we need you to be raped a couple of times more to not be insignificant. Right.

(also, 10% is in itself a worrying rise in a country where crime otherwise is down)


Reported violent crime is down in Germany. Not up.


Funny then why did the german government admit to an increase dod they make a typo? To deny there is a problem is stupid. Here PBS does a good job at presenting both sides of the issue. And Germany seriously needs to reconsider its policies involving north Africa.

www.pbs.org...

PS germany isnt the only country in Europe having this problem. ITALY IS NOW ACTIVELY STOPPING IMMIGRANTS.




From your link.
, a new government-sponsored study found that violent crime rose in one state by 10 percent in two year.

If crime goes up in Alabama does that mean it has risen for the United States?




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