Shocker: Trump lies about crime in Germany

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Statistics don't lie.

But they can fool.

I thought it was:

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

a reply to: LightSpeedDriver
That's an urban myth.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Statistics don't lie.

But they can fool.

It's the way they fudge them!!

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DupontDeux

Your link states, migrants may have contributed in a 10% violent crime rise and that 92 % could be attributed to migrants so that's what 9% of that increase is migrants .

Now I'm not sure of your math skills but I'm guessing they are not all that good, if you think a 9 % increase of violent crimes is the end of the world.

I couldn't be arsed looking but I'm betting violent crime is not all that high in Germany and a 9 % increase in negligible.

~20,000 more violent crimes are negligible?

You tell that to the victims and their families - sorry, but you are negligible; we need you to be raped a couple of times more to not be insignificant. Right.

(also, 10% is in itself a worrying rise in a country where crime otherwise is down)

a reply to: SprocketUK

Bending the truth would be more accurate.

originally posted by: Jubei42
Trump couldn't care less about crime rates in germany, he's just trying to silence those critical of us immigration policy.

Where as that might be true ..... He does have a point.

a reply to: DupontDeux

Where did you get that number.... 20000 more violent crimes in 2 years....

You do understand that 20000 more means there were already 200000 violent crimes a year already right?

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: SprocketUK

Bending the truth would be more accurate.

I fail to see how Reuters bent the truth...It would be just as accurate to say Sky bent it when they just reported it as at a historic low.

If you pick and choose you can make any trend.

The point is that all this guff about Germany not having a problem is so much balderdash.

Sure it isn't as apocalyptic as the Alt right would paint it, but neither is it all made up either, as Frau Merkel would have you believe.

a reply to: SprocketUK

It's sad who most of the MSM is so "fake news" these days that they just parrot any old rubbish without doing the most basic investigation.

"these days"

In the 1920's more people in Germany read books by Nietzsche rather than Mein Kampf but that is not the "official story".
Come to think of it studies on the German millennial youth after 911 proved they were less gullible then as well.

Why is Merkle on the ropes for her open border policy?

If things were so great, no prob, right?

How is New Years eve gonna go this year?

a reply to: burgerbuddy

Why is Merkle on the ropes for her open border policy?

If things were so great, no prob, right?

False dichotomy?

originally posted by: dragonridr
I hate articles that manipulate the public. See they take a 25 year span because then they can say crime has decreased in general. It also misleads you but generalizing all crime so this includes things like DUI and mail fraud etc

Now here's the reality violent crime in Germany has increased over the last 2 years. This means Germany is becoming a more dangerous place as assaults and murders rise.

Here do some research

www.reuters.com...

www.bbc.com...

Hintne state isn't the whole country. My stats are for all of Germany. You need to be honest. Did Trump claim crime was up in a particular state or the whole country. You know it is the latter, hence Trump is a liar.

Further, there is no information on who is the victim of the crime. It could be other immigrants.

The researchers say the findings are not surprising because many migrants who arrived in Germany in recent years are single males aged 14-30.

This group is most likely to commit crime, irrespective of nationality.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DupontDeux

Where did you get that number.... 20000 more violent crimes in 2 years....

You do understand that 20000 more means there were already 200000 violent crimes a year already right?

I get that number from the public German Crime statistics.


Of course I get that it means that there are already around 200,000 violent crimes in Germany. But wow is that of any consequence for the 20,000 victims that if not for the increase wouldn't have been brutalized? Are you really arguing that those crimes are insignificant just because there are other crimes?

a reply to: Phage

Like Bobby Fisher,

"The Evan's Gambit is Fine!"

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Statistics don't lie.

But they can fool.

Dunno man...as a statistician mysepf i can honestly say a 9% increase in anything is significant for that dataset.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DupontDeux

Where did you get that number.... 20000 more violent crimes in 2 years....

You do understand that 20000 more means there were already 200000 violent crimes a year already right?

A 10% increase is HUGE.

Seriously.

No one familiar with data and statistics would argue that point.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

What happened to the violent crime statistics in Prague?
Anders Behring Breivik

originally posted by: DupontDeux

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DupontDeux

Where did you get that number.... 20000 more violent crimes in 2 years....

You do understand that 20000 more means there were already 200000 violent crimes a year already right?

I get that number from the public German Crime statistics.


Of course I get that it means that there are already around 200,000 violent crimes in Germany. But wow is that of any consequence for the 20,000 victims that if not for the increase wouldn't have been brutalized? Are you really arguing that those crimes are insignificant just because there are other crimes?

Yeah, pretty much.

The immigrants commit less crimes than the natives so it doesn't matter.

Just have to live with it coz what would you do if you had to go half way across europe from the middle of africa?

Only like 500 of them have a real job.

Out of 1.5 million.

Sweet. No lawns need to be mowed or toilets cleaned?

Just public welfare and free groping.

Sorry but these animals need a tour of Auschwitz.

originally posted by: Cauliflower
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

What happened to the violent crime statistics in Prague?
Anders Behring Breivik

Wrong country?

Prague rocks!

Met Cohen there. Or was it Page?

I get them mixed up with the russians.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

You can be funny.

Sometimes.