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originally posted by: Willtell
It’s amazing that many conservative Republicans are coming out against Trump barbarism
We tried to tell you he is a barbarian and prone to uncivilized actions like this
Trump, believe me, will do worse if they let him. He would commit genocide if he had the opportunity.
originally posted by: angeldoll
originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Sublimecraft
You're ignorant
And don’t know what you're talking about …YOUR WRONG
THEY DO HAVE RIGHTS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.
That’s why they have trials, for instance, its called DUE PROCESS
They don’t have the same rights that citizens do but they do have rights
Unlike the barbarian Trump, the founders weren’t barbarians
Only Trump and his followers are barbaric enough to convict people without trials
go back to school and learn something
Absolutely, and as far as the children go, they are being summarily removed. Our laws state that children who have been summarily removed from their parents have a right to an attorney - Guardian ad Litem, and the entity who removed them MUST appear before a Judge within 72 hours to show probable cause, and if this is proven, temporary custody of the minor child is placed with the state, or another licensed entity.
We must give terrorists from other countries "a fair trial" and due process, but not minor children?
We've completely stripped them of their rights.
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: pavil
Sure they will still have gangs. I'm talking about drug cartels. Ending war on drugs would cut their supply 100%, destroying their enterprises and their terrorizing of families and forcing them to be mules. Nixon and Reagan started this and the CIA was involved in the drug trafficking.
originally posted by: Nyiah
The easier and humane thing to do all around is to send them all home as a family, "Hi, nice to meet you all. Bye now, go back from where thou cameth."
Splitting kids from their families, especially really young ones, because you think you're being "tough" on something only serves to create foundations for serious mental problems later, and solidify backlash. And those of us who've been insulted by and pissed about this tactic since it's inception don't give a rat's ass about who's driving the country when, fact of the matter is this policy still exists and people still think it's ok. The f# is it, you knuckle dragging animals.
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Sublimecraft
Oh I have misread.
originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Willtell
I am ashamed of being an American today.
Sweetheart, you've been ashamed of being an American for a long time.
Don't let this little propaganda piece by your owners give you an excuse to say it on this forum.
These kids are treated a whole lot better right than they have been living before.
Can you please make an OP about the millions of American children that are in the system right now because their parent is in jail?
Oh snap... that would BE a citizen so it doesn't matter.
2,000 kids that are detained... they have trips to the zoo, have mental health professionals and doctors there, etc, etc ad nauseum.
Meanwhile, 22 American vets committed suicide today.
Screw them though... we need to feed and clothe and house and pay for more illegal aliens!!!!
ETA.. why would you have an issue with "ripping the child from it's mother" when you have no problem with abortion... you know, "ripping the child from it's mother."
One is 20 days in a play camp... the other a death sentence.
But... the children!!!!
/faceplam
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: pavil
You actually do have a good point. I never thought about the other countries in South America still having demands.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Sublimecraft
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Does this clause apply to non-US citizens not on US soil? (ie: other countries' citizens who reside in those countries)
If so, then it should be renamed "The Constitution of Earth" as it applies to all humans regardless of legal status or geographical location.
???
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: RowanBean
They do, at the start.
Source please.