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I did earlier, what part did you miss? Are you goading me into calling you names like retard or dumbass? Cause i am close.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
lol, and what kind of debate tactic is that? Dude you're a special kind of messed up!
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
So you attack, then back peddle and say it's a joke. Got it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I felt your snide comment to my post a few pages ago was a attack. Ya know about trumpets head exploding? Yea that was attackish, lol did I just create a new word..
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: DBCowboy
I have this image of you in my head where you sit out on front yard going, "Hey you kids! Get off my lawn! You hate America!".
I got a image of you swinging a bike lock at people who have a different point of view.
Proving my point once again about the right using ad hominem when they can't make a decent argument.
So it's only okay when you do it?
When have I ever attacked anyone here on this thread?
The post I was replying to you about that Trump should spend on the wall and ICE instead of space front? That wasn't an attack to you. I was talking about "certain" Trump supporters here. BTW it was a joke.
Well I have no idea what you are talking about. So...
Nope. Just have no idea what you are talking about. You'll have to clarify what you meant. It wasn't an attack on you.
originally posted by: Muninn
a reply to: RowanBean
Oh?????
I must have not seen that image.😏
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I did earlier, what part did you miss? Are you goading me into calling you names like retard or dumbass? Cause i am close.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
lol, and what kind of debate tactic is that? Dude you're a special kind of messed up!
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
So you attack, then back peddle and say it's a joke. Got it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I felt your snide comment to my post a few pages ago was a attack. Ya know about trumpets head exploding? Yea that was attackish, lol did I just create a new word..
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: DBCowboy
I have this image of you in my head where you sit out on front yard going, "Hey you kids! Get off my lawn! You hate America!".
I got a image of you swinging a bike lock at people who have a different point of view.
Proving my point once again about the right using ad hominem when they can't make a decent argument.
So it's only okay when you do it?
When have I ever attacked anyone here on this thread?
The post I was replying to you about that Trump should spend on the wall and ICE instead of space front? That wasn't an attack to you. I was talking about "certain" Trump supporters here. BTW it was a joke.
Well I have no idea what you are talking about. So...
Nope. Just have no idea what you are talking about. You'll have to clarify what you meant. It wasn't an attack on you.
originally posted by: Bicent
a reply to: DanDanDat
Well to be frank, technically it’s not our problem. Nor our responsibility to help them. I am all for love one another etc. etc. BUT what is happening on the border is wrong and not healthy for America, in no way what so ever. Speaking of helping children what about our own citizens children? Last I checked we still have kids going to bed hungry, we still have a problem in our public school systems, we still have crimes in inner cities Ahem, war zones in Chicago, and yes kids live there. I find it appalling truly appalling how easy it is for politicians and the main stream media can brainwash simple minded people.
Bottumline what is happening on the southern border is adults being selfish, breaking our laws and hurting their children, hell some would argue using us the tax payer to take care of their children and themselves. Let’s not forget these people are from 3rd world countries illiterate and cannot speak our language and maybe not theirs as well. We should focus that same compassion towards our kids and citizens, yet I am sure this is just a troll, thread anyhow to stimulate one liner opinions for material items like stars and flags anyway.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: DanDanDat
So no one wants to discuss the real world ways we can help these people?
I hate to say this, but I truly don't believe anything can be done. We're breaking families up and not keeping any records on who is related to who. Some aren't even getting barcodes (I guess that's a step up from a tattoo). The young ones, which make up over half don't know their country of origin or family identification information.
We don't know where to send them, or who to send them with. I believe we're going to have to raise them in the US now... in our already strained foster care system.
It's my belief that this damage is irrepairable. The only fix is to prevent more atrocities like these. That means calling your local reps, let them know how you feel. Donate to the ACLU if you have the income. Refuse to fund, support, or vote for any politician who is either quiet on this issue or outright supporting it.
Call your state reps. As of this moment, 3 governors are refusing to send national guard troops to the border for this policy. Convincce your state to do the same.
Also (as I'm trying to do), start writing op ed's to the major papers in your state. Address them to the people in power, and sign your name. Be clear, be honest, and make your case. Out of all the correspondence politicians get, newspaper articles about them are taken the most seriously.
Help these kids by making sure it never happens again.
Not so much about me, but classifying me into a group perhaps.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I did earlier, what part did you miss? Are you goading me into calling you names like retard or dumbass? Cause i am close.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
lol, and what kind of debate tactic is that? Dude you're a special kind of messed up!
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
So you attack, then back peddle and say it's a joke. Got it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I felt your snide comment to my post a few pages ago was a attack. Ya know about trumpets head exploding? Yea that was attackish, lol did I just create a new word..
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: DBCowboy
I have this image of you in my head where you sit out on front yard going, "Hey you kids! Get off my lawn! You hate America!".
I got a image of you swinging a bike lock at people who have a different point of view.
Proving my point once again about the right using ad hominem when they can't make a decent argument.
So it's only okay when you do it?
When have I ever attacked anyone here on this thread?
The post I was replying to you about that Trump should spend on the wall and ICE instead of space front? That wasn't an attack to you. I was talking about "certain" Trump supporters here. BTW it was a joke.
Well I have no idea what you are talking about. So...
Nope. Just have no idea what you are talking about. You'll have to clarify what you meant. It wasn't an attack on you.
Go ahead if that makes you feel better. I'm used to ad hominem every time people can't make an argument or clarify themselves, which you never did.
Did you actually think I was talking about you? If you are a Trump supporter then I am very, very sorry for hurting your delicate feelings.
Here's a beer to make you feel better.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I got your back DBC.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: DBCowboy
I want strong borders too. And I know people have called you a Nazi but that's only because you seem to advocate for separation of parents and children. I don't advocate that at all.
Again nobody is advocating for no laws on immigration. Don't fall for the propaganda.
So if a parent breaks the law, and they have children, they don't go to jail.
Wonderful.
And you say you don't want to destroy America!
pfft!
I truly feel what is needed to stop all this illegal and I repeat Illegal activity is to show a great force enough to cause great fear for anyone even thinking about stepping onto this great land of ours without proper documentation. Hell it would clear up a lot of issues too..
We should enforce the laws of this nation.
If the laws are unjust, then there is a process to change them.
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: mtnshredder
Democrat tactics? It's the Republicans which are rounding kids up. Democrats are blameless here, that's just Trump saying that if he doesn't get their support he'll continue to torture kids... they can end it any time they want by giving him full power.
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
Not so much about me, but classifying me into a group perhaps.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I did earlier, what part did you miss? Are you goading me into calling you names like retard or dumbass? Cause i am close.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
lol, and what kind of debate tactic is that? Dude you're a special kind of messed up!
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
So you attack, then back peddle and say it's a joke. Got it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I felt your snide comment to my post a few pages ago was a attack. Ya know about trumpets head exploding? Yea that was attackish, lol did I just create a new word..
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: DBCowboy
I have this image of you in my head where you sit out on front yard going, "Hey you kids! Get off my lawn! You hate America!".
I got a image of you swinging a bike lock at people who have a different point of view.
Proving my point once again about the right using ad hominem when they can't make a decent argument.
So it's only okay when you do it?
When have I ever attacked anyone here on this thread?
The post I was replying to you about that Trump should spend on the wall and ICE instead of space front? That wasn't an attack to you. I was talking about "certain" Trump supporters here. BTW it was a joke.
Well I have no idea what you are talking about. So...
Nope. Just have no idea what you are talking about. You'll have to clarify what you meant. It wasn't an attack on you.
Go ahead if that makes you feel better. I'm used to ad hominem every time people can't make an argument or clarify themselves, which you never did.
Did you actually think I was talking about you? If you are a Trump supporter then I am very, very sorry for hurting your delicate feelings.
Here's a beer to make you feel better.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I got your back DBC.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: DBCowboy
I want strong borders too. And I know people have called you a Nazi but that's only because you seem to advocate for separation of parents and children. I don't advocate that at all.
Again nobody is advocating for no laws on immigration. Don't fall for the propaganda.
So if a parent breaks the law, and they have children, they don't go to jail.
Wonderful.
And you say you don't want to destroy America!
pfft!
I truly feel what is needed to stop all this illegal and I repeat Illegal activity is to show a great force enough to cause great fear for anyone even thinking about stepping onto this great land of ours without proper documentation. Hell it would clear up a lot of issues too..
We should enforce the laws of this nation.
If the laws are unjust, then there is a process to change them.
We should enforce the laws of this nation ... just as we have been doing for years, which DIDN'T require splitting kids from their families.
It's all good, not wanting to get into a pissing match over it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
Not so much about me, but classifying me into a group perhaps.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I did earlier, what part did you miss? Are you goading me into calling you names like retard or dumbass? Cause i am close.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
lol, and what kind of debate tactic is that? Dude you're a special kind of messed up!
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
So you attack, then back peddle and say it's a joke. Got it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I felt your snide comment to my post a few pages ago was a attack. Ya know about trumpets head exploding? Yea that was attackish, lol did I just create a new word..
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: DBCowboy
I have this image of you in my head where you sit out on front yard going, "Hey you kids! Get off my lawn! You hate America!".
I got a image of you swinging a bike lock at people who have a different point of view.
Proving my point once again about the right using ad hominem when they can't make a decent argument.
So it's only okay when you do it?
When have I ever attacked anyone here on this thread?
The post I was replying to you about that Trump should spend on the wall and ICE instead of space front? That wasn't an attack to you. I was talking about "certain" Trump supporters here. BTW it was a joke.
Well I have no idea what you are talking about. So...
Nope. Just have no idea what you are talking about. You'll have to clarify what you meant. It wasn't an attack on you.
Go ahead if that makes you feel better. I'm used to ad hominem every time people can't make an argument or clarify themselves, which you never did.
Did you actually think I was talking about you? If you are a Trump supporter then I am very, very sorry for hurting your delicate feelings.
Here's a beer to make you feel better.
I never knew you were a Trump supporter. Your post doesn't show that. I was talking about Trump supporters in general. BTW people here always talk about liberal heads exploding. Perhaps I'll expect you to complain about that as well so you won't appear hypocritical.
I don't see the logic in that.
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
It's all good, not wanting to get into a pissing match over it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
Not so much about me, but classifying me into a group perhaps.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I did earlier, what part did you miss? Are you goading me into calling you names like retard or dumbass? Cause i am close.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
lol, and what kind of debate tactic is that? Dude you're a special kind of messed up!
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
So you attack, then back peddle and say it's a joke. Got it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I felt your snide comment to my post a few pages ago was a attack. Ya know about trumpets head exploding? Yea that was attackish, lol did I just create a new word..
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: DBCowboy
I have this image of you in my head where you sit out on front yard going, "Hey you kids! Get off my lawn! You hate America!".
I got a image of you swinging a bike lock at people who have a different point of view.
Proving my point once again about the right using ad hominem when they can't make a decent argument.
So it's only okay when you do it?
When have I ever attacked anyone here on this thread?
The post I was replying to you about that Trump should spend on the wall and ICE instead of space front? That wasn't an attack to you. I was talking about "certain" Trump supporters here. BTW it was a joke.
Well I have no idea what you are talking about. So...
Nope. Just have no idea what you are talking about. You'll have to clarify what you meant. It wasn't an attack on you.
Go ahead if that makes you feel better. I'm used to ad hominem every time people can't make an argument or clarify themselves, which you never did.
Did you actually think I was talking about you? If you are a Trump supporter then I am very, very sorry for hurting your delicate feelings.
Here's a beer to make you feel better.
I never knew you were a Trump supporter. Your post doesn't show that. I was talking about Trump supporters in general. BTW people here always talk about liberal heads exploding. Perhaps I'll expect you to complain about that as well so you won't appear hypocritical.
I agree with you on most of your post. I also agree this is exactly why we need tougher immigration policies so we don't have issues like this anymore.
originally posted by: introvert
This is a tough subject. I do not know what the best answer is and I honestly do not see the purpose in dividing ourselves along political lines on an issue like this.
What I do know is that family is very important. Life can take us down some very rocky and unexpected roads throughout it's course, and family can sometimes be the only thing you have with you when you encounter those roads. Sometimes family is the reason we are on that road to begin with.
It seems to me, politics aside, that the right thing to do is to keep families together when we have the choice. In this case, we have a choice. Sure, these parents have broken our laws. There is no denying that. But do we find their act to be so egregious that we are willing to tear apart one of the most basic foundations of human existence...the family?
I don't see the compassion in that. I don't see the logic in that.
Meh, i'd rather not sling mud.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
It's all good, not wanting to get into a pissing match over it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
Not so much about me, but classifying me into a group perhaps.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I did earlier, what part did you miss? Are you goading me into calling you names like retard or dumbass? Cause i am close.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
lol, and what kind of debate tactic is that? Dude you're a special kind of messed up!
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
So you attack, then back peddle and say it's a joke. Got it.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Disenchanted1
I felt your snide comment to my post a few pages ago was a attack. Ya know about trumpets head exploding? Yea that was attackish, lol did I just create a new word..
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Muninn
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: DBCowboy
I have this image of you in my head where you sit out on front yard going, "Hey you kids! Get off my lawn! You hate America!".
I got a image of you swinging a bike lock at people who have a different point of view.
Proving my point once again about the right using ad hominem when they can't make a decent argument.
So it's only okay when you do it?
When have I ever attacked anyone here on this thread?
The post I was replying to you about that Trump should spend on the wall and ICE instead of space front? That wasn't an attack to you. I was talking about "certain" Trump supporters here. BTW it was a joke.
Well I have no idea what you are talking about. So...
Nope. Just have no idea what you are talking about. You'll have to clarify what you meant. It wasn't an attack on you.
Go ahead if that makes you feel better. I'm used to ad hominem every time people can't make an argument or clarify themselves, which you never did.
Did you actually think I was talking about you? If you are a Trump supporter then I am very, very sorry for hurting your delicate feelings.
Here's a beer to make you feel better.
I never knew you were a Trump supporter. Your post doesn't show that. I was talking about Trump supporters in general. BTW people here always talk about liberal heads exploding. Perhaps I'll expect you to complain about that as well so you won't appear hypocritical.
This is a mud pit thread so pissing match is allowed.
It has been fun actually. I enjoyed it.
originally posted by: introvert
This is a tough subject. I do not know what the best answer is and I honestly do not see the purpose in dividing ourselves along political lines on an issue like this.
What I do know is that family is very important. Life can take us down some very rocky and unexpected roads throughout it's course, and family can sometimes be the only thing you have with you when you encounter those roads. Sometimes family is the reason we are on that road to begin with.
It seems to me, politics aside, that the right thing to do is to keep families together when we have the choice. In this case, we have a choice. Sure, these parents have broken our laws. There is no denying that. But do we find their act to be so egregious that we are willing to tear apart one of the most basic foundations of human existence...the family?
I don't see the compassion in that. I don't see the logic in that.