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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
The previous Administrations did not "flout" Federal law in any way shape form or fashion.
The Obama Administration is said to have deported more illegals than ANY recent President.
Previously, rather than sending the parents charged with violation of 8 USC 1325 to jail they were sent to detention centers WITH their children for determination (for example, of whether they qualified for asylum.)
Now, everyone is guilty as charged, there is no asylum, and the parents are sent to prison and the kids are sent to a "detention center" (which might as well be called what it is, a prison camp.)
Has the crime always been dealt with in the most severe manner allowed by law splitting up families?
Do you believe in mercy or human compasson?
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I'm very interested in seeing the immigration laws both streamlined and strengthend, personally.
However, the current crisis is not because of the laws themselves, but because of the way the Trump Administration has chosen to enforce them, which, the Executive does have latitude on.
I saw that the other day. Good one on Ted! Even if it's just to help his campaign this year.
We'll see what the Democrats do. The lot of them are ... pretty dumb in my book.
They are allowed to apply for asylum from Federal prison? That's news to me. Do you have evidence?
And, the parents have been punished for their crimes for years without separating them from their kids.
The practice, as I'm pretty sure you know, was to send them to detention centers TOGETHER awaiting the disposition of their case before a judge.
I'm always fair unless I'm pissed off. You have a touch of that malady yourself old bean.
The stream of people pushing into the US illegally has been falling every year since 2001.
If the policies and policing have been lax (which I don't think they have been), the trend is rather odd, don't you think?
Hopefully indeed. I'm all for it. If Trump wins the day and helps keep us safe and streamline immigration, I'll doff my cap to him.
originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Facts are seen as a disease to the mental disorder of the far left
originally posted by: howtonhawky
nothing has changed except the policy to make everyoneadult a criminal who crosses the border illegally
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I'm very interested in seeing the immigration laws both streamlined and strengthend, personally.
However, the current crisis is not because of the laws themselves, but because of the way the Trump Administration has chosen to enforce them, which, the Executive does have latitude on.
I saw that the other day. Good one on Ted! Even if it's just to help his campaign this year.
We'll see what the Democrats do. The lot of them are ... pretty dumb in my book.
You're turning too fair in your ripe age. Good points.
I would argue the stream of people pushing into the US illegally is the result of lax policies and policing. Hopefully something good will come of this charade before someone gets hurt.
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Facts are seen as a disease to the mental disorder of the far left
He is quoting AG Sessions, the one appointed by President Trump, mandating a zero-tolerance policy.
Seems to me that it's a policy decision, by the Trump administration, behind zero-tolerance.
A policy of zero-tolerance has resulted in detaining all illegal immigrants.
Detaining all illegal immigrants has resulted in separation of children from their parents.
Ergo, the Trump administration is responsible for the policy resulting in separation of children from their parents.
Do you disagree with these facts?
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: howtonhawky
nothing has changed except the policy to make everyoneadult a criminal who crosses the border illegally
A little clarification, you're welcome.