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Help me find the actual legislation and or policy related to immigrant children

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posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




In zero tolerance, no one gets a chance to apply for asylum.


Actually, the "zero tolerance" is in respect to those who break 8 U.S.C. § 1325(a).


Accordingly, I direct each United States Attorney's Office along the Southwest Border to the extent practicable, and in consultation with DHS- to adopt immediately a zero-tolerancepolicy for all offenses referred for prosecution under section 1325(a).


Session's memo
edit on 19-6-2018 by LesMisanthrope because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: howtonhawky

In zero tolerance, no one gets a chance to apply for asylum.


unless you have a visa and visit a port of entry and the luck of the draw puts you in front of an agent that does not deny you asylum cause they are anti immigrant in their heart



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky




the new policy makes them criminals where 3 or 4 weeks ago the policy was for them to be picked up by border patrol and make the claim without being considered to have committed a crime


But it is a crime.


(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.


www.law.cornell.edu...



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Facts are seen as a disease to the mental disorder of the far left



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66




In zero tolerance, no one gets a chance to apply for asylum.


Actually, the "zero tolerance" is in respect to those who break 8 U.S.C. § 1325(a).


Accordingly, I direct each United States Attorney's Office along the Southwest Border to the extent practicable, and in consultation with DHS- to adopt immediately a zero-tolerancepolicy for all offenses referred for prosecution under section 1325(a).


Session's memo


he has no constitutional authority to say such as the ag.

the feds have overstepped the constitution

the only legit power he legally has unchallenged is the power to naturalize them

that is a fact



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

it is a crime since the new admin says it is

it was not a crime a couple weeks ago due to the asylum part

perhaps you are stuck in some type of loop?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky




he has no constitutional authority to say such as the ag.

the feds have overstepped the constitution the only legit power he legally has unchallenged is the power to naturalize them that is a fact


Which part of the constitution did they overstep? I see a federal law, and the feds enforcing it.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky




it is a crime since the new admin says it is it was not a crime a couple weeks ago due to the asylum part perhaps you are stuck in some type of loop?


Seeking asylum isn't a crime. entering the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, is.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: howtonhawky




it is a crime since the new admin says it is it was not a crime a couple weeks ago due to the asylum part perhaps you are stuck in some type of loop?


Seeking asylum isn't a crime. entering the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, is.


how did they do it a month ago then

how were they crossing and not being charged but rather just sent on their way

unless they were givin a waiver then it was not a crime at all to cross the border seeking asylum

i believe you are just being selective now

is it not a crime to allow someone to seek asylum and charge them with a crime?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: howtonhawky




it is a crime since the new admin says it is it was not a crime a couple weeks ago due to the asylum part perhaps you are stuck in some type of loop?


Seeking asylum isn't a crime. entering the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, is.


again this is all new interpretations of the law

cruel and unusual punishment is also a crime



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: howtonhawky




it is a crime since the new admin says it is it was not a crime a couple weeks ago due to the asylum part perhaps you are stuck in some type of loop?


Seeking asylum isn't a crime. entering the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, is.


how did they do it a month ago then

how were they crossing and not being charged but rather just sent on their way

unless they were givin a waiver then it was not a crime at all to cross the border seeking asylum

i believe you are just being selective now

is it not a crime to allow someone to seek asylum and charge them with a crime?



It is a crime to hop the border at unofficial entrances. They can seek asylum at official entrances, legally, without committing a crime.

Do you believe a country should enforce its laws?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:55 PM
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real funny to reinterpret the law and then pretend as if the policies have not changed and hide behind the fact that it is cruel and unusual


hype up the american dream as a land of milk and honey then tell em they can seek asylum at the border then change your mind

na this will not stand



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky




again this is all new interpretations of the law

cruel and unusual punishment is also a crime


That's false. The law is pretty clear. Do I need to copy and paste it again for you?



(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.


The last amendment to this law was 1996.

edit on 19-6-2018 by LesMisanthrope because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 05:00 PM
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So, are you saying that the Trump Administration didn't adopt a "zero tolerance" policy, which basically means that the strongest possible (not prescribed by law) sentencing is used?

For example, before Trump ... what happened to those families that crossed border illegallly. Were they kept together in most cases, certainly more cases than now?

Are you really claiming that Trump/Sessions has not changed the execution of the law???



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: howtonhawky




again this is all new interpretations of the law

cruel and unusual punishment is also a crime


That's false. The law is pretty clear. Do I need to copy and paste it again for you?



(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.


The last amendment to this law was 1996.


you are making yourself look bad

not all border crossings have been criminal until now

that is right there in what you posted several times

do you get it?

what part of the law you post makes you false in your assumption

lets just go back to my original statement

crossing the border to seek asylum is not a crime until now

twist and spin all you want

the answer is in your post



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky

LesMis gets it Hawky.

Trust.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




So, are you saying that the Trump Administration didn't adopt a "zero tolerance" policy, which basically means that the strongest possible (not prescribed by law) sentencing is used?

For example, before Trump ... what happened to those families that crossed border illegallly.

Were they kept together in most cases, certainly more cases than now? Are you really claiming that Trump/Sessions has not changed the execution of the law???


He surely did adopt a zero tolerance policy, but only because the previous administrations flouted federal law, and they apparently needed to remind people what the law is.



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky




crossing the border to seek asylum is not a crime until now


It's always been a crime to cross the border illegally.

Do you believe in equality before the law?



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

The previous Administrations did not "flout" Federal law in any way shape form or fashion.

The Obama Administration is said to have deported more illegals than ANY recent President.

Previously, rather than sending the parents charged with violation of 8 USC 1325 to jail they were sent to detention centers WITH their children for determination (for example, of whether they qualified for asylum.)

Now, everyone is guilty as charged, there is no asylum, and the parents are sent to prison and the kids are sent to a "detention center" (which might as well be called what it is, a prison camp.)



posted on Jun, 19 2018 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: howtonhawky




crossing the border to seek asylum is not a crime until now


It's always been a crime to cross the border illegally.

Do you believe in equality before the law?


Has the crime always been dealt with in the most severe manner allowed by law splitting up families?

Do you believe in mercy or human compasson?







 
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