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originally posted by: BeefNoMeat
a reply to: Gryphon66
Operating fees? A tax by a different name? The connotation of “tax”, is that what you’re getting at?
Taxes should be centered around legit market inefficiencies. Pollution is a clear by-product of a market inefficiency (i.e. too much coal was being burnt in the 70s-90s).
At any rate, this is a thread about coal, and it’s beyond apparent that there was/is a market inefficiency in the power generation market. Grover Norquist can’t factually refute that.
originally posted by: Irishhaf
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Irishhaf
I wonder if there is a distinction to be made between popularity and cult behavior?
Fair point..
There are people that attacked anyone critical of Obama for 8 years, saying they were racist because the only reason to have a problem with him was obviously race related.
So honestly whats the difference between him and the people that defended everything he did and the people that excuse everything Trump does?
Keep in mind, in my opinion if actual evidence comes up concerning wrong doing involving Trump directly then by all means impeach and prosecute.
originally posted by: BeefNoMeat
a reply to: Gryphon66
Gotcha. Fair enough.
Yup, one that is never really contested on the merits...storms have moved out and there’s some herbicide (another market inefficiency — non-point source pollution from farms) that needs to be applied...like yesterday!
Have a good one
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: shooterbrody
I'm not the idiot seperating kids from their mothers while jabbing about freedom and democracy. Nobody said that he is Hitler, or Stalin for that matter. But there's a development towards straight fascism in combination with a cult of personality.
Make brown coal great again! How fitting.
Don't mean to ruin your 30 seconds of hate and invade your bubble but there are more key components to this article.
originally posted by: Lykan
A cult of personality is not what is driving this movement. Its a verifiable change towards a country better for its citizens. Its been too long since America's government has given a damn about the people who not only vote them in, but provide their salaries.
oh so now it is blaming the current admin for laws past before they were in office
originally posted by: Lykan
a reply to: DJW001
Imho
Some people think Trump 's was voted in for his rhetoric and specific phrases or ideas that "cranked their tractor", or got them all fired up for an overnight economic social revival.
To classify the majority of Trump voters as ignorant; " imna' get ma' job back and buy me a dodge cause TRUMP!" Type people is to underestimate the movement, and intelligence of a good portion of America.
Trump was guaranteed change. Clinton was a continuance of status quo.
To insinuate a population watching their lives, their families futures, retirement, quality of life and sense of community constantly degrade....to think that they didn't research, read, think, and make a conscious choice is again to underestimate.
A cult of personality is not what is driving this movement. Its a verifiable change towards a country better for its citizens. Its been too long since America's government has given a damn about the people who not only vote them in, but provide their salaries.
Coal. It'll be used as long as it us economically viable, unless of course someone swoops in with the "bad dog! Coal is dirty, tax it! Bsn it. Now gimmie some research/dev subsidies". Oh wait Oba...
Ignorant cult.
Ignorant voters expecting miracles.
I don't think so.
Educated informed people with a different opinion, quite possibly.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Lykan
a reply to: DJW001
Imho
Some people think Trump 's was voted in for his rhetoric and specific phrases or ideas that "cranked their tractor", or got them all fired up for an overnight economic social revival.
To classify the majority of Trump voters as ignorant; " imna' get ma' job back and buy me a dodge cause TRUMP!" Type people is to underestimate the movement, and intelligence of a good portion of America.
Trump was guaranteed change. Clinton was a continuance of status quo.
To insinuate a population watching their lives, their families futures, retirement, quality of life and sense of community constantly degrade....to think that they didn't research, read, think, and make a conscious choice is again to underestimate.
A cult of personality is not what is driving this movement. Its a verifiable change towards a country better for its citizens. Its been too long since America's government has given a damn about the people who not only vote them in, but provide their salaries.
Coal. It'll be used as long as it us economically viable, unless of course someone swoops in with the "bad dog! Coal is dirty, tax it! Bsn it. Now gimmie some research/dev subsidies". Oh wait Oba...
Ignorant cult.
Ignorant voters expecting miracles.
I don't think so.
Educated informed people with a different opinion, quite possibly.
Funny. That is the same sort of nonsense I heard from people when I asked them why they voted for Obama.
Trump is Hope and Change 2.0.
Sad that so many would fall for it, again, right after Obama...
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Ah ... reminds me of Fox News and the Obama years ...
/sigh
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Ah ... reminds me of Fox News and the Obama years ...
/sigh
I wouldnt know, but it is to be expected of the MSM. Its their Job.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: JinMI
Why should anyone stop JinMI?
MAGA folk aren't going to stop being fantastically wrong about everything in the world, so why should DerBeobachter stop saying things they don't agree with?
Its not a popular view around here, but there again, what is popular is not always right, and what is right is not always popular.