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I beat the Clintons, I beat the Bush’s now I’ll beat dishonest intelligence

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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

boring! this is a antifalink on facebook, correct, because antifa means antifascist. sort of nazi-hunters. sometimes over the top.

iam a little bit afraid of whats coming. putin is happy. the populists all over europa are happy. europe is struggling. there is a strong bond between usa and germany, historically, but nowadays it feels different, you know, thats irritating.

so. its time for germany vs. mexico. greets!




posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

When will you guys ever learn?

You fall for the propaganda and lies of the men that came before Trump and somehow you actually expect that Trump is going to be any different, even when he is shown to be using the same sort propaganda and lies?

It's quite obvious that you fall easily for the propaganda message of "Hope and Change", over and over again.

As I said to another member yesterday, the enlightened have become the brainwashed on ATS. Those who were once wolves, now willingly stand as sheep waiting for the slaughter and you defend the person that is about to slit your throats.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I'm not aiming this at yoo OP, more the subject matter...


What has happened to ATS? I used to be gripped every time I came here , there were so many great topics and you could lose yourself in her hallowed pages so easily. Then Trump went up against Clinton which sent this site into policrocal overdrive

Now its all Left v Right, Dems v Cons, Conservatives v Liberals and the like. Please, bring back the good topics!

Then there's the inevitable threads where people feel the need to start threads defending the President. This is a phenomena I've never seen before, sure there are always one or another but these rhreads are appearing at a rapid rate, near daily.


The fact is, this president is actually splitting America apart, the very fact of his being in power is dividing people, not bringing them together...



Propaganda works well. Those that claim to be most aware of it, seem to be the boobs that fall most easily for it.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: introvert

You can't and shouldn't judge a book (President Trump) by its cover! Using a leftist icon, Simon Cowell, I will visually prove my point.



I'm sure you will twist this to suit your leftist rhetoric, but sane, intelligent AMERICANS understand. Give it up...



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: NightFlight
a reply to: introvert

You can't and shouldn't judge a book (President Trump) by its cover! Using a leftist icon, Simon Cowell, I will visually prove my point.



I'm sure you will twist this to suit your leftist rhetoric, but sane, intelligent AMERICANS understand. Give it up...


What the hell are you talking about?

What you just posted is one big logical fallacy and proves my point and it has nothing to do with Left or Right.

8-10 years ago your post would be laughed off of ATS. But now, the sheep will flock to it's use of logical fallacies.
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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: introvert

I rest my case...



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: JosephKnecht
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I hate seeing you fall for the trick.

Trump is one of them. There is a deep state but Donald is part of it. They've somehow made a lot of you forget the basics now you're following along like it's your favorite TV show. That's just it though, this is one huge giant mind f of a charade.

Rosie O'donnell, Trump, Ellen, Rosanne, Kanye, and a # ton of other people who should have no influence have you all triggered and pointing fingers and avoiding the puppet masters, ffs you even worship their puppets.

They're all on a webex live meeting reading ATS laughing at how they got us all arguing day and night over this fake scripted joke of a reality.

A Conspiracy site where the majority of people don't see the grand conspiracy even though they discuss it every single day.


it's like you read my mind.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 10:19 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

When will you guys ever learn?

You fall for the propaganda and lies of the men that came before Trump and somehow you actually expect that Trump is going to be any different, even when he is shown to be using the same sort propaganda and lies?

It's quite obvious that you fall easily for the propaganda message of "Hope and Change", over and over again.

As I said to another member yesterday, the enlightened have become the brainwashed on ATS. Those who were once wolves, now willingly stand as sheep waiting for the slaughter and you defend the person that is about to slit your throats.


if i could give you more than one star i would.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

"Gorbachev, tear down this wall"-Ronald Reagan.

And this is what JFK had to say about putting humans on the moon.



I think we're going to do it, and I think that we must pay what needs to be paid. I don't think we ought to waste any money, but I think we ought to do the job. And this will be done in the decade of the sixties. It may be done while some of you are still here at school at this college and university. It will be done during the term of office of some of the people who sit here on this platform. But it will be done. And it will be done before the end of this decade.


And both men pulled it off-Trump is only echoing his predecessors.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: NightFlight
a reply to: introvert

I rest my case...


You had no case. Saying you can't judge a book by his cover has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

Complaining about Leftists just shows that you completely missed the damn point.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

People defending the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and so on, from one of their own elected representatives is the height of bureaucratic arse-kissing. That it is found on ATS is just absurd.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: JosephKnecht
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I hate seeing you fall for the trick.

Trump is one of them. There is a deep state but Donald is part of it. They've somehow made a lot of you forget the basics now you're following along like it's your favorite TV show. That's just it though, this is one huge giant mind f of a charade.

Rosie O'donnell, Trump, Ellen, Rosanne, Kanye, and a # ton of other people who should have no influence have you all triggered and pointing fingers and avoiding the puppet masters, ffs you even worship their puppets.

They're all on a webex live meeting reading ATS laughing at how they got us all arguing day and night over this fake scripted joke of a reality.

A Conspiracy site where the majority of people don't see the grand conspiracy even though they discuss it every single day.


There is no trick. For god sake every well funded congressman and senator in both parties dislikes trump, the media despises him. Almost no big donors donated to his campaign. Leaders of our allies dislike him. He was never in politics before this election.

If you cannot see trump is authentically anti establishment, you will never be convinced any politician is.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: JosephKnecht
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I hate seeing you fall for the trick.

Trump is one of them. There is a deep state but Donald is part of it. They've somehow made a lot of you forget the basics now you're following along like it's your favorite TV show. That's just it though, this is one huge giant mind f of a charade.

Rosie O'donnell, Trump, Ellen, Rosanne, Kanye, and a # ton of other people who should have no influence have you all triggered and pointing fingers and avoiding the puppet masters, ffs you even worship their puppets.

They're all on a webex live meeting reading ATS laughing at how they got us all arguing day and night over this fake scripted joke of a reality.

A Conspiracy site where the majority of people don't see the grand conspiracy even though they discuss it every single day.


There is no trick. For god sake every well funded congressman and senator in both parties dislikes trump, the media despises him. Almost no big donors donated to his campaign. Leaders of our allies dislike him. He was never in politics before this election.

If you cannot see trump is authentically anti establishment, you will never be convinced any politician is.


Really? Then why is Trump taking audience and advice from the real players behind the establishment, like Henry Kissenger?

The only thing Trump offers is a different style, much like Obama. But the direction and goals remain on the same path.

What's funny and very telling, is that many of those on this site that support Trump, admit they voted and fell for Obama's BS.

Sheep. The lot of ya.
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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: introvert

What I wrote had everything to do with what you wrote. You are looking at a mainstream media superficial examination of President Trump which, by the way, is very leftist. They judge President Trump by all the lies made up in the progressive media and verify them in the leftist media and vice versa. I try not to judge a book by its cover, I try not to pass judgement at all. Actions speak much, much louder than words and the so called media is nothing but lies about President Trump.

I know now that it is your direction in life to brow beat everything that doesn't fit your leftist, progressive, socialist, and communist viewpoint (not a judgement, but an astute observation), and to attack anyone who has the correct and proper understanding of the political university now being revealed to us Americans, one and all...

Flame away, my political opponent...
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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: NightFlight
a reply to: introvert

Using a leftist icon, Simon Cowell

Lol, what?

As with lots of stuff on this site, I've no idea if this is satire. I hope so, for everyone's sake...



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Sounds like you need to start a thread describing the actors in this conspiracy. But I doubt that will happen since all you really want from such a conspiracy springs from it's un-falsifiable hypothesis.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
but on a professional level he is fukn aceing it.


Then why didnt he nail Obama + Hillary + MSM + CIA to the wall with the simple factual slogan:
"They partnered with AL QAEDA to blow up Syria. 9/11 NEVER FORGET!!"

No tweet, no?

He once called Hillary "the mother of ISIS", got my attention, and now he's playing Neocon Games by the look of things.


Why did he take the bait following those Syria "Gas Attacks" TWICE?


He wants to beat "dishonest intelligence" it can only be achieved by shutting down the CIA at once.
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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: introvert


The only thing Trump offers is a different style, much like Obama. But the direction and goals remain on the same path.


What goals?

Peace on the korean peninsula?
4% GDP growth?
Lower Taxes?
Originalist supreme court nominees?
Destroying ISIS?
Death by a thousand cuts to ACA?
Revamping the military?
Building a border wall?

Trump is dismantling obama's legacy. How in the world can the goals be on same path? You guys and your vague accusations of some grand puppet master seem to always lack details. Intellectual dishonesty is your forte, I guess.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


Then why didnt he nail Obama + Hillary + MSM + CIA to the wall with the simple factual slogan:
"They partnered with AL QAEDA to blow up Syria. 9/11 NEVER FORGET!!"


Why that one specifically? I mean, you admit he accused them of being the creators of isis, then dismiss it by saying he's plaing neocon games.

From what I can tell, you have one way you want problems dealt with and if it's not done your way then they're doing it wrong and obviously are in on the scam. Good luck with that.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Trumps words while talking to Fox News
Video in article

I can totally understand why people might hate him on a personal level, he is full of the typical alpha male bravado which I get people can find off putting, but on a professional level he is fukn aceing it.
Any other president in history doing this well and the media would be calling it a golden age.
Despite the constant barrage of hate and nonsense he hasn’t been distracted and has significantly improved the economy, brought peace to the worlds longest running war and is by all appearances trying to keep his campaign promises.
Whether you like his policies or not can you name 1 other politician that has EVER kept a major campaign promise?

Maybe I’m a gullible idiot, I remember when on campaign Obama promised to stop the wars and bring home the troops, I remember the excitement I felt when I found out he won and I still remember about 2 years into his term the numbing realisation that it was all lies, he wasn’t bringing hope and change it was just more of the same if not worse.
Despite being burnt before I really can’t help but feel with Trump that he is actually what he says he is.
He’s by no stretch of the imagination perfect (far from it) but I reckon he’s sincere, if anyone can actually fix your runaway intel agencies it’s probably him


Hello. Do you understand how the GOP used the NDAA to keep the wars going and GITMO open? I will pretend you are clueless since the alternative is you are a deliberate liar.




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