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A minimum-wage worker needs 2.5 full-time jobs to afford a one-bedroom apartment in most of the US

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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan

what a ridiculous response

I'm currently running a small carpentry business and every choice that's made from marketing to branding to negotiating with customers to actually getting the job done is done by me, I don't have experienced well educated marketers negotiators and lawyers to delegate responsibilities too

that also includes, designing a logo building a website learning about new methods and materials and everything and you know what?

the job doesn't pay enough
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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

To clarify, I'm speaking more of skilled factory and shop jobs.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Building a business and maintaining a business are different skillsets.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: toysforadults

To clarify, I'm speaking more of skilled factory and shop jobs.


The company I work for has plenty of those, we manufacture high end laboratory eqiupment. I've mentioned them on this website several times. Then I mention that we won't hire anyone to work in a factory on any meanginful product with less than a Masters in a field like chemistry or biology, and preferably we want a phd.

That's the future of manufacturing. A shop job with a crash course from a trade school is not going to cut it.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: toysforadults

To clarify, I'm speaking more of skilled factory and shop jobs.


The company I work for has plenty of those, we manufacture high end laboratory eqiupment. I've mentioned them on this website several times. Then I mention that we won't hire anyone to work in a factory on any meanginful product with less than a Masters in a field like chemistry or biology, and preferably we want a phd.

That's the future of manufacturing. A shop job with a crash course from a trade school is not going to cut it.


Besides as people begin to inundate the trades due to the rising costs of college and student loan cost cutting measures from congress, the trades will pay less and less



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: toysforadults
I've worked next to a CEO of a 250 million dollar a year company and trust me when I tell you he did nothing extrodinary but inherit the company from his father


If he did nothing extraordinary, then you should be able to do it too right?


Often you find nieces, sons, friends, etc in very high positions at different companies. The wealthy elite hire their family or friends kids or grandkids, they hire each others progeny and put them on top of the various corporations, as ceos, high execs or members of each others board of directors.

The CEO is paid a golden parachute even if they drive the companies profits down before being fired, and are rehired elsewhere after doing a bad job.
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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 02:13 PM
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Rising rents usually means rising demand from rising population numbers. Where's the increase in population coming from? From immigration. The same factor which is causing housing costs to skyrocket throughout the western world.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: Xenogears

That puts the kid in position to get the job. If they weren't able to do the job properly though, the company would go under. Those connections only get them an easier interview. It doesn't imply that they lack the proper skills to maintain the business.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 02:45 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: Xenogears

That puts the kid in position to get the job. If they weren't able to do the job properly though, the company would go under. Those connections only get them an easier interview. It doesn't imply that they lack the proper skills to maintain the business.


Look at companies like yahoo, or how star wars brand was handled at disney. STAR WARS is an easy peasy money making train on automatic. It takes a special kind to go against the fans blame the fans, force feed political messages in to the brink, and cause the sales to drop drastically.

And again, it is not like it takes inordinate skills, not found once in a blue moon, to keep a company afloat. Plenty of founders even without having finished college manage to succeed and carry a company through vast growth and success. An intelligent person with proper training, vision, and deal making skills will be able to handle it. Again, not like they are ALL pulling miracles, there probably are creme de la creme ceos that can pull miracles, but they're probably quite rare.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 02:50 PM
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And Star Wars is rapidly losing value as an IP because the wrong person was given creative control. Companies that stick around for several years after changing ownership are the ones being run by capable individuals.

I didn't say that the skills to maintain a company are ultra rare, most marketable skills aren't. But, claiming that just because someone had an easier time getting the job somehow means that person isn't capable isn't true either.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: starviego

Rising rents usually means rising demand from rising population numbers. Where's the increase in population coming from? From immigration. The same factor which is causing housing costs to skyrocket throughout the western world.


Actually, there's another source you're missing. More and more people are moving from small towns to large cities. This is consolidating people into areas with limited space for housing and that is driving up costs. Immigration numbers are tiny compared to this.
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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
More and more people are moving from small towns to large cities. This is consolidating people into areas with limited space for housing and that is driving up costs.


Which should be causing housing costs in rural areas to plunge. But we are not seeing that. Immigrants are driving growth in housing costs, not Americans.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: toysforadults

To clarify, I'm speaking more of skilled factory and shop jobs.


The company I work for has plenty of those, we manufacture high end laboratory eqiupment. I've mentioned them on this website several times. Then I mention that we won't hire anyone to work in a factory on any meanginful product with less than a Masters in a field like chemistry or biology, and preferably we want a phd.

That's the future of manufacturing. A shop job with a crash course from a trade school is not going to cut it.


I think you like to belittle people who can't afford a higher education. Watch an hour of "How It's Made" or one of the hundreds of videos on manufacturing that are on YT.

You don't need a PhD to be on the floor producing steel or doing Tool and Die, running a lathe etc. or for making industrial tanks, etc.

Granted, years ago we had a proper public school education. Not the sh*t they graduate today. On reflection, that is probably why Millennials need a PhD for the same damn job today.

They are deep in the Hole of Stupid.



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: starviego

originally posted by: Aazadan
More and more people are moving from small towns to large cities. This is consolidating people into areas with limited space for housing and that is driving up costs.


Which should be causing housing costs in rural areas to plunge. But we are not seeing that. Immigrants are driving growth in housing costs, not Americans.


what's driving cost

it depends on where you go, in most Democratic/ liberal states it's zoning laws and city council's preventing development artificially raising value on homes so the government workers who live in those cities can profit off their investments and the buddies they let build

then they sell their land and the city council approves the sale and walla everyone gets rich and the city crumbles



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 06:29 PM
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it depends on where you go, in most Democratic/ liberal states it's zoning laws and city council's preventing development artificially raising value on homes
The value of a home is what someone will pay for it.



then they sell their land and the city council approves the sale and walla everyone gets rich and the city crumbles
Except that's not what's happening. And the word is voila. It's French.

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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 06:32 PM
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Uhhh. Yeah it is

City council approves land sale
city council approves land sale
city council aproves land sale

anyway do your own research before, "no it's not cause I said so"



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 06:38 PM
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Your first link:

The La Crosse Common Council unanimously approved a land swap deal with the developers of the Garden Terrace apartments on Kane Street and voted 10-2 on a rezoning request and parking waiver for the project.

Impact Seven plans to build 50 units of low-income and market-rate housing on the site, along with a community center that will serve the Kane Street Community Garden.

It sounds like more housing in the city to me. Sounds like it's not making the city "crumble." It's the city's land, btw.




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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 06:39 PM
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you don't get why the city council doing these things is bad and the behind the scenes of how these land swaps and sales are done but that's cool i don't care



posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 06:40 PM
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Your second link:

Round Rock City Council gave the green light Thursday on the purchase of two acres of land for the relocation of Fire Station 3.
Two acres for a fire station. Shocking.


Your third link:

Council approves sale of land in industrial park
Lot of housing being lost there all right.


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posted on Jun, 17 2018 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: starviego

originally posted by: Aazadan
More and more people are moving from small towns to large cities. This is consolidating people into areas with limited space for housing and that is driving up costs.


Which should be causing housing costs in rural areas to plunge. But we are not seeing that. Immigrants are driving growth in housing costs, not Americans.


Where I live, you can buy a very nice house for $100k still, and that's after housing has been on a meteoric rise for years. I'll even give an example:

www.zillow.com... 3_rect/10_zm/

3300 sqft, 5 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, good neighborhood $110k
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