Israel is about to destroy this Palestinian village.

a reply to: JosephKnecht

any of my legitimate points

You've made no such points.

I'm still waiting for you to stop using leftist anti-Israel propaganda in every post you make to me.

Like your ridiculous genocide LIE.

a reply to: JosephKnecht

It's cultural genocide. It's an actual aspect of genocide.

Made up bull#.

This isn't quantifiable and I'm betting you're counting on this in order to be "right" no matter how the debate goes.

a reply to: GBP/JPY

As soon as you give all your property over to the Native Americans we'll talk about Israel being in the right over there.

a reply to: GBP/JPY

I believe religion to be part of it. Religion and spirituality in essence are a good thing but when tptb take something pure and twist it into a way to use the people as pawns it loses its purpose.

Sadly modern day religion and politics is a good way to keep us divided and distracted enough or just so exhausted that we just don't give a f anymore.

I see people who claim religion but cheer on the destruction of a village and the displacement of the inhabitants and make jokes about it.

Just another day on the internet I guess.

originally posted by: JosephKnecht
a reply to: dug88

Another thing I find worrisome is many people will support this simply because they worship Trump and Trump is an Israeli puppet so anything supports so must the Trump supporters.

I saw it with the whole Jerusalem embassy event, old members who used to make daily threads against Israel now support Israel because Trump does.

I wish I was allowed to call them out by name.

Trump seems to be forming a cult of personality. I see people who would normally condemn all mainstream news, now support FOX news b/c trump does.

All trump had to do was appear as alt-right non-mainstream guy for all these supposedly "awake" people to drop their pants and bow down to trumps every word.

It's sickening and enlightening to how easy people can be minipulated. Even so-called conspiracy theorists on ATS.

originally posted by: blueman12

originally posted by: JosephKnecht
a reply to: dug88

Another thing I find worrisome is many people will support this simply because they worship Trump and Trump is an Israeli puppet so anything supports so must the Trump supporters.

I saw it with the whole Jerusalem embassy event, old members who used to make daily threads against Israel now support Israel because Trump does.

I wish I was allowed to call them out by name.

Trump seems to be forming a cult of personality. I see people who would normally condemn all mainstream news, now support FOX news b/c trump does.

All trump had to do was appear as alt-right non-mainstream guy for all these supposedly "awake" people to drop their pants and bow down to trumps every word.

It's sickening and enlightening to how easy people can be minipulated. Even so-called conspiracy theorists on ATS.

A little sore about this exchange where you were clearly talking about Fox News being in the tank for Trump, that was proven false, and you moved the goalposts to "they're pro-Republican"?

a reply to: blueman12

It's turned them into man childs who can't have a serious conversation. Their hate and frustration oozes from their posts. They're also very selective in what they respond to because even the blindest fool knows better than to admit certain faults so it's better for them to ignore and deflect, especially on the middle east issues.

originally posted by: JosephKnecht
a reply to: blueman12

It's turned them into man childs who can't have a serious conversation. Their hate and frustration oozes from their posts. They're also very selective in what they respond to because even the blindest fool knows better than to admit certain faults so it's better for them to ignore and deflect, especially on the middle east issues.

You don't really subscribe to the notion that a pro-Israel sentiment among conservatives emerged on account of Trump do you?

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: JosephKnecht
a reply to: blueman12

It's turned them into man childs who can't have a serious conversation. Their hate and frustration oozes from their posts. They're also very selective in what they respond to because even the blindest fool knows better than to admit certain faults so it's better for them to ignore and deflect, especially on the middle east issues.

You don't really subscribe to the notion that a pro-Israel sentiment among conservatives emerged on account of Trump do you?

I know several members who've made the switch. I know it's difficult to believe but it's true. One of them is fairly elderly though so maybe it's dementia and not Trump for him at least.

originally posted by: JosephKnecht

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: JosephKnecht
a reply to: blueman12

It's turned them into man childs who can't have a serious conversation. Their hate and frustration oozes from their posts. They're also very selective in what they respond to because even the blindest fool knows better than to admit certain faults so it's better for them to ignore and deflect, especially on the middle east issues.

You don't really subscribe to the notion that a pro-Israel sentiment among conservatives emerged on account of Trump do you?

I know several members who've made the switch. I know it's difficult to believe but it's true. One of them is fairly elderly though so maybe it's dementia and not Trump for him at least.

People can't just learn more information and change their mind? Kind of like you've learned today that no genocide is taking place, so you had to resort to "I feel like their culture is being genocided" which can't be quantified and is really meaningless?

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: UnBreakable

Well to be fair, that could very well be what Iran is leading up to by being in Syria, trying g to ultimately liberate the Palestinians. I think just moving them or inviting them to their lands the way Israel does for global Jews (well except Ethiopian Jews) could go farther than trying to remove Israel.

My point exactly. You’d think Egypt or Saudi Arabia would offer the Palestinians a small swatch of sand to settle on. But most ME countries don’t want them in their country either. You can thank Hamas terrorists for that.

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: UnBreakable

Well to be fair, that could very well be what Iran is leading up to by being in Syria, trying g to ultimately liberate the Palestinians. I think just moving them or inviting them to their lands the way Israel does for global Jews (well except Ethiopian Jews) could go farther than trying to remove Israel.

My point exactly. You’d think Egypt or Saudi Arabia would offer the Palestinians a small swatch of sand to settle on. But most ME countries don’t want them in their country either. You can thank Hamas terrorists for that.

They don't want to go elsewhere. They want the land Israel has. That's why a two-state solution is never going to happen. Palestine simply refuses to acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist. In the 90s Clinton, I have to give him credit, he got Israel to make a ton of concessions, they met the PLO like 70/30, gave them almost everything they wanted, and they wouldn't make a deal. They're simply not interested in peace.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: UnBreakable

Well to be fair, that could very well be what Iran is leading up to by being in Syria, trying g to ultimately liberate the Palestinians. I think just moving them or inviting them to their lands the way Israel does for global Jews (well except Ethiopian Jews) could go farther than trying to remove Israel.

My point exactly. You’d think Egypt or Saudi Arabia would offer the Palestinians a small swatch of sand to settle on. But most ME countries don’t want them in their country either. You can thank Hamas terrorists for that.

They don't want to go elsewhere. They want the land Israel has. That's why a two-state solution is never going to happen. Palestine simply refuses to acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist. In the 90s Clinton, I have to give him credit, he got Israel to make a ton of concessions, they met the PLO like 70/30, gave them almost everything they wanted, and they wouldn't make a deal. They're simply not interested in peace.

I realize they don’t want to go else where. My point is no ME country has even made an offer.

We wake up, go to work and pay taxes and a portion of those taxes go towards purchase of those bulldozers that will level that village. And our government donates or sells for cheap the F-16s that do the fly-byes while the homes are demolished.

We need to start removing the representatives that enable this behavior; no other way out.

The Palestinians are Israel’s native Americans. At least give them a casino or something

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: UnBreakable

Well to be fair, that could very well be what Iran is leading up to by being in Syria, trying g to ultimately liberate the Palestinians. I think just moving them or inviting them to their lands the way Israel does for global Jews (well except Ethiopian Jews) could go farther than trying to remove Israel.

My point exactly. You’d think Egypt or Saudi Arabia would offer the Palestinians a small swatch of sand to settle on. But most ME countries don’t want them in their country either. You can thank Hamas terrorists for that.

They don't want to go elsewhere. They want the land Israel has. That's why a two-state solution is never going to happen. Palestine simply refuses to acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist. In the 90s Clinton, I have to give him credit, he got Israel to make a ton of concessions, they met the PLO like 70/30, gave them almost everything they wanted, and they wouldn't make a deal. They're simply not interested in peace.

I realize they don’t want to go else where. My point is no ME country has even made an offer.

I get you. It is rather telling. I think at one time Egypt was involved in one of the talks along those lines, but it went nowhere.

originally posted by: JosephKnecht

originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: JosephKnecht

originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: JosephKnecht

originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: dug88
www.theguardian.com...

Now, emboldened by Donald Trump’s overt disdain for human rights – or basic human decency for that matter

Now, emboldened by Donald Trump’s overt disdain for human rights – or basic human decency for that matter –

Seriously? This is Trump's fault? David Zonsheine from the guardian must think Israel cares who the US president is.

It's no coincidence that Trump's main man and most trusted advisor Jared Kushner, is deeply loyal to Israel and it's Zionist rulers .

It's no coincidence that AIPAC funds a lot of Republican elections.

The international lobbyists have a lot of decision making power, that's for sure.

They all speak against lobbying but all profit from it. I can't just blame Trump lol.

Obama made a lot of crooked deals as well.

I don't blame Trump. I blame the INSANE Zionist doomsday cult that wants to bring about WW3. It's not just Israeli zealots but also Christian Zionists that encourage and fund this activity. These groups and even the Iranians all think they will come out on top after the end of the world.

This Vice episode puts the American side of it into perspective:

This Is Why Evangelical Christians Love Israel

You raise a good point. Christian Zionism is very active in the enablment of certain agendas. I believe they're important in influencing church going
American Christians to support Israel no matter the action.

They even have fund raisers to relocate Russian Jews on inhabited Palestinian land. Would Christ support that? Surely not.

The teachings of Christ go agaisnt everything Israel stands for. His name has been hijacked and his intended legacy perverted by the Church.

I'm not religious so the above text must be weird coming from me but on a related note an ats post from yesterday caused me to start reading the gospel of John the Baptist and I can't explain how I'm feeling.

I've realized we are all connected as one and all this hate and bigotry in the world which keeps getting worse has me messed up.

The crap I see people post is pretty hateful on here. The Palestinians are sub humans who don't deserve basic rights according to some

Sorry for the rant!

I really hadn't considered what Christ might think. I was mostly thinking about the pro Israel lobby. Jews, although relatively wealthy and influential, make up only a small percentage of the population. Much of their political power and funding actually comes from Evangelical Christians. They contribute to the lobbying groups and specifically pay for these settlements in Palestine which is what the video was about. There are far more of these Evangelical Christians than Jews and they contribute many times the amount of cash. Also you have groups like Christians United For Israel.

This is a reason why Trump says he supports Israel. He considers the Evangelicals as part of his base. I don't think it has that much to do with Kushner. The Christian Zionists not only sponsor settlements in Palestine but support the neocon war agenda. Their goal being to start WW3 so Christ will return.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: UnBreakable

Well to be fair, that could very well be what Iran is leading up to by being in Syria, trying g to ultimately liberate the Palestinians. I think just moving them or inviting them to their lands the way Israel does for global Jews (well except Ethiopian Jews) could go farther than trying to remove Israel.

My point exactly. You’d think Egypt or Saudi Arabia would offer the Palestinians a small swatch of sand to settle on. But most ME countries don’t want them in their country either. You can thank Hamas terrorists for that.

They don't want to go elsewhere. They want the land Israel has. That's why a two-state solution is never going to happen. Palestine simply refuses to acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist. In the 90s Clinton, I have to give him credit, he got Israel to make a ton of concessions, they met the PLO like 70/30, gave them almost everything they wanted, and they wouldn't make a deal. They're simply not interested in peace.

I realize they don’t want to go else where. My point is no ME country has even made an offer.

I get you. It is rather telling. I think at one time Egypt was involved in one of the talks along those lines, but it went nowhere.

The reason it went no where is due to the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar Sadat in 1981. The Camp David Peace Accord between Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menacham Begin also addressed the Palestinian problem but was interrupted due to Sadat’s death.

originally posted by: JosephKnecht
a reply to: dug88

Another thing I find worrisome is many people will support this simply because they worship Trump and Trump is an Israeli puppet so anything supports so must the Trump supporters.

I saw it with the whole Jerusalem embassy event, old members who used to make daily threads against Israel now support Israel because Trump does.

I wish I was allowed to call them out by name.

What I find worrisome is you believe this drivel...

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: UnBreakable

Well to be fair, that could very well be what Iran is leading up to by being in Syria, trying g to ultimately liberate the Palestinians. I think just moving them or inviting them to their lands the way Israel does for global Jews (well except Ethiopian Jews) could go farther than trying to remove Israel.

My point exactly. You’d think Egypt or Saudi Arabia would offer the Palestinians a small swatch of sand to settle on. But most ME countries don’t want them in their country either. You can thank Hamas terrorists for that.

They don't want to go elsewhere. They want the land Israel has. That's why a two-state solution is never going to happen. Palestine simply refuses to acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist. In the 90s Clinton, I have to give him credit, he got Israel to make a ton of concessions, they met the PLO like 70/30, gave them almost everything they wanted, and they wouldn't make a deal. They're simply not interested in peace.

I realize they don’t want to go else where. My point is no ME country has even made an offer.

I get you. It is rather telling. I think at one time Egypt was involved in one of the talks along those lines, but it went nowhere.

The reason it went no where is due to the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar Sadat in 1981. The Camp David Peace Accord between Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menacham Begin also addressed the Palestinian problem but was interrupted due to Sadat’s death.

Thanks for bringing that up. More evidence they don't want peace.