originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: diggindirt
Still reading your reply and thanks! I'll respond to it in a sec.
If people that own land, don't farm.. what do you do with it? Is it there to safeguard for future Gov 'unbenownst to the land owners', to take later
on for I don't know, .. for the sake of it i'll toss in 'NWO' camps. I'm not really an expert in this area, so all I can do is speculate and
doesn't farm the land. that does not mean the land is not being farmed. a farmer leases
the land and does the farming of it. this
happens all the time, especially with older, smaller farms. i have a friend who does this. he does not farm the land himself. yet leases to another
farmer who farms his own land plus the land he leases from other farms. in many cases those leasing the land are really too old to farm it themselves.
and since a small farm these days does not pay enough to live on, many children of farmers refuse to take up the work instead seeking higher paying
jobs (like at the local McDonalds or Wal-Mart). and so another farmer leases the land, as well as other farmland, making a big enough farm by todays
standards to actually make a living at.
and yes there are indeed "farmers" who are literally paid by the government not to farm their land. this at least used to be call the landbank
it's purposes are both to insure that in a case where for some reason farmland gets destroyed, or for some reason can no longer be farmed, that there
is fresh land available to take up the slack and not end up with food shortages. the secondary purpose of course is to keep food prices higher, than
if all the available farmland was being farmed. which would possibly create a major food surplus, making food worse less. and thus farmers not even
earning a fraction of what they need to live on, and pay their debts. a situation made worse of course by companies like Monsanto (now Bayer, who have
taken Monsanto over). who charge for things like seed every year, because of patents and intellectual property laws. instead of the old farming
practice of using a part of your crop to provide seeds for next year's crop. which is strictly not allowed by companies such as Monsanto/Bayer, and
strictly enforced by them.
the problem is that the real profits on food are not made by farmers. but by the food consortiums that are the ones that get to set the price a farmer
gets paid, and the much higher price food is sold at. while keeping most of the profits made from selling food for themselves and their share holders.
and thus quite a lot of these subsidies farmers get paid (and actually need), is yet another form of corporate welfare that benefits the huge food
industry companies, not really the farmers. then on top of that farmers are given strict quotas on the amount of food they are [allowed to sell to
the food industry. with cutbacks on quotas if they fail to produce enough. which means that they must try to over produce food. and any over
production has to be destroyed. things like leaving excess crops to be plowed under or buried. or in the case of dairy farmers, literally millions of
gallons of milk quite literally dumped down the sewer, upon pain of laws and loosing the ability to be allowed to farm. and i am not joking about
that. i had a relative who pissed off with the extreme waste of milk decided to raise a few hogs to use that milk up, and of course earn needed money,
and extra food for the family. as soon as the government found out. they forced him to DESTROY
the hogs. or have his dairy farm shut down.
years later he tried raising a few hens for eggs. they found that and forced him to shut that down since it was illegal farming as he was not licenced
to do so under the egg board to do so. and failure again would result in them shutting the dairy farm down. even the stands of vegitables and selling
at farmer's markets is technically illegal. and for many farmers they acually make more money
from selling in those cases, than they are paid
for their entire quota of grown crops. although they have tried to crack down on that illegal trade
they keep failing due to public outcry.