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The Trump Doctrine Defined: ‘We’re America, B*tch’

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posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
It's hard normal people to believe, but the WHINERS and COMPLAINERS really don't care about individuals and families. They're under the control of dark forces. They want recessions and wars.

For the good of the world, they must be turned, or beaten.


That makes no sense. Actually, it's an appeal to emotion and a bad one at that.




posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
Quick question:

What's America going to do when the rest of the world finally grows tired of all the "America is the Greatest" nonsense and starts to wall you off and give you the isolation you so clearly crave?

Good luck sustaining your population for long when you can't import anything lol.





We all know that is never going to happen but keep fantasizing.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: Kryties
Quick question:

What's America going to do when the rest of the world finally grows tired of all the "America is the Greatest" nonsense and starts to wall you off and give you the isolation you so clearly crave?

Good luck sustaining your population for long when you can't import anything lol.





We all know that is never going to happen but keep fantasizing.


I understand that, inside your little bubble, everything and everyone in the world is against America and that you are being taken advantage of - but in the real world this is simply, and demonstrably, not true.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: introvert

aren't we already seeing results? Based on those, can't we make an analysis of said results?

More jobs? Check.
Peacefully bringing about the end of nuclear NK? check
ISIS on life support? Check
Stock Market/markets strong? Check

That is just the stuff that anyone can support. If you look at his campaign promises....he's making lots of headway there as well.

I honestly find it hard to figure out how any assessment of his performance can be anything other than glowing, in spite of his personality.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: Kryties
Quick question:

What's America going to do when the rest of the world finally grows tired of all the "America is the Greatest" nonsense and starts to wall you off and give you the isolation you so clearly crave?

Good luck sustaining your population for long when you can't import anything lol.





We all know that is never going to happen but keep fantasizing.


I understand that, inside your little bubble, everything and everyone in the world is against America and that you are being taken advantage of - but in the real world this is simply, and demonstrably, not true.



No they're not. You might be but you are far from representing the entire planet.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
Quick question:

What's America going to do when the rest of the world finally grows tired of all the "America is the Greatest" nonsense and starts to wall you off and give you the isolation you so clearly crave?

Good luck sustaining your population for long when you can't import anything lol.





What, they going to stop drinking bourbon?



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan



aren't we already seeing results? Based on those, can't we make an analysis of said results?


Sure. What is our analysis?



More jobs? Check. Peacefully bringing about the end of nuclear NK? check ISIS on life support? Check Stock Market/markets strong? Check


He has very little to do with those things you listed.

More jobs? We've had plenty of jobs for many years. The problem is we do not have enough people to fill the jobs.



Peacefully bringing about the end of nuclear NK? check


That has not happened yet. It appears NK only made some promises, while Trump conceded to no more war games with SK, or something like that.



ISIS on life support? Check


With the help of Russia and other nations, yes. I give him credit for that.



Stock Market/markets strong? Check


They have been doing well for a while. What exactly did he do to make the markets strong?



That is just the stuff that anyone can support. If you look at his campaign promises....he's making lots of headway there as well.

I honestly find it hard to figure out how any assessment of his performance can be anything other than glowing, in spite of his personality.


I'm not sure how you can make an assessment on his performance for things he has little or nothing to do with, or has not even taken place yet.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties


Nope.

Period.

Stop getting your news from Fox News and right-wing biased websites.


The question is why do we import? Do we do it because it is cheaper or because we can't do it ourselves?

Here is the top 10 imports...what is on this list that we can not do at home at just a slightly higher price, what on this list that we do not already do at home, for that matter?

1.Electrical machinery, equipment: US$356.8 billion (14.8% of total imports)
2.Machinery including computers: $349.1 billion (14.5%)
3.Vehicles : $294.6 billion (12.2%)
4.Mineral fuels including oil: $204.2 billion (8.5%)
5.Pharmaceuticals: $96.4 billion (4%)
6.Optical, technical, medical apparatus: $86.2 billion (3.6%)
7.Furniture, bedding, lighting, signs, prefab buildings: $67.2 billion (2.8%)
8.Gems, precious metals: $60 billion (2.5%)
9.Plastics, plastic articles: $54.9 billion (2.3%)
10.Organic chemicals: $46.1 billion (1.9%)



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posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

I'm not sure how you can make an assessment on his performance for things he has little or nothing to do with, or has not even taken place yet.


Well at some point in his 4 years the left will need to give him credit on something I would think, or do you see them deflecting everything as you seem to do to other reasons for successes? The funny part is the left will 24/7 blame him for anything remotely not a success, AND will describe everything as a failure right up front before anything is even started. Just like NK, the left wants it to fail, have had endless panels on how it will fail, how it will all be Trumps fault, but I'm sure as it has success they will have endless panels on what made it a success while leaving Trump completely out of it.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: introvert


More jobs? We've had plenty of jobs for many years. The problem is we do not have enough people to fill the jobs.


Its strange that the unemployment stats support my assertions if that is the case, then. From where I stand there is a direct correlation between actions such as the tax cuts and helping the lumber issue and the creation of jobs.







That has not happened yet. It appears NK only made some promises, while Trump conceded to no more war games with SK, or something like that.


Its happening. YOu can't budge an inch?





With the help of Russia and other nations, yes. I give him credit for that.


Another victory! He partnered with Russia, who we are not on the best of terms with, to defeat ISIS. He even managed to get their help while they were making threats of retaliation for participating.




They have been doing well for a while. What exactly did he do to make the markets strong?


Continued making the markets stronger. And the first thing he did was get elected. His election provided a boost as it was seen as a portent of business friendly leadership. From there he dealt with tax cuts, which is a direct correlation to both the markets and job growth.

I mean...$7tril in market growth isn't anything to snicker at. That is a 35% growth. Compared to 8 years of Obama (who started with a crap market and had nowhere to go but up) with 15%.






I'm not sure how you can make an assessment on his performance for things he has little or nothing to do with, or has not even taken place yet.


To state that presidential policies have no impact on financial markets, and in turn labor markets, seems preposterous.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 01:59 PM
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

You might be


See, this is yet ANOTHER false statement.

I find it terribly hard to believe what someone says when they insist on continuing to get the facts wrong.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero



Well at some point in his 4 years the left will need to give him credit on something I would think, or do you see them deflecting everything as you seem to do to other reasons for successes?


Sure. What does that have to do with the topic?



The funny part is the left will 24/7 blame him for anything remotely not a success, AND will describe everything as a failure right up front before anything is even started. Just like NK, the left wants it to fail, have had endless panels on how it will fail, how it will all be Trumps fault, but I'm sure as it has success they will have endless panels on what made it a success while leaving Trump completely out of it.


Ok. What does that have to do wit the topic?

Bashing the Left like a parrot gets old reading.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan



Its strange that the unemployment stats support my assertions if that is the case, then. From where I stand there is a direct correlation between actions such as the tax cuts and helping the lumber issue and the creation of jobs.


Tax cuts? Congress did that, correct?



Continued making the markets stronger. And the first thing he did was get elected. His election provided a boost as it was seen as a portent of business friendly leadership. From there he dealt with tax cuts, which is a direct correlation to both the markets and job growth.


Got elected? The people did that, correct?



To state that presidential policies have no impact on financial markets, and in turn labor markets, seems preposterous.


You have not provided one example of a policy he created.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: introvert


Sure. What does that have to do with the topic?



Basically your replies that suggest Trump has little to do with anything that looks successful, always something else as the cause.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

I've always thought that we need leadership that is wise, humble and calculating.

A doctrine of "we're America, bitch" sounds like an arrogant teenager with an over-inflated sense of importance and an entitled mentality.

If that is the goal, mission accomplished.

I prefer a "walk softly and carry a big stick" approach. Not a "walk loudly and tell everyone how big your stick is" approach.


What you prefer is meaningless compared to what the US needs at this time
Bribing our enemies does not work as the epic failure of the Obama policy showed .
That was the equivalent of paying the schoolyard bully not to beat you up. The problem with that doctrine is you have to keep paying. Stand up to a bully and they back down.

And the US has a long history of not giving a rat's rear what the freaking rest of the world thinks.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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"Let me make this perfectly clear" - Richard M Nixon

Word Up

If you don't like what you see here
Nobody wants to take you prisoner
So let me make it nice and clear dear
The exit is right there
I don't mean to be rude dude
But you'd better change your attitude

If you don't like what you see here
Get the funk out
We won't try to force feed you
Get the funk out

Extreme - Get the Funk Out




posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: Arnie123

You consider that progress? Trump is regressing us back to the stone ages. He is putting a wrench in everything the rest of the world wants which is to move forward to yes the inevitable globalization. Eventually we are going to have to get along with and be on equal footing with the rest of the world and if we want to have a leadership role as far as encouraging the new world to adhere to western/american values trump if it was up to him would let the rest of the world move on. Sound familiar? Isn't that the sort of thinking that we hated Iran, Iraq, North Korea, cuba, Venezuela, Libya,Syria for having?

Bottom line trump wants to bully the rest of the world in to bowing down to the United States or he is going to take his ball home. If anything he is making America look like the b****.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: introvert

sticking your fingers in your ears isn't a valid argument.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 02:39 PM
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I don't know.

As a martial artist and teacher and competitor. It's not good to be boastful and full of yourself. I'm always humble.

for example. A student comes in who's clearly had no training and is smaller or weaker than me. Do I say "I'm the Master B*tch! Bow down to me" ? Or do I come off a little more humble?

Maybe that's a bad comparison so let's compare leaders. George Washing = Humble. Thomas Jefferson = Humble. Ronald Reagan = Humble. JFK = Humble Eisenhower = Humble. I'm seeing a clear pattern here.

Nobody likes a self righteous jerk who thinks they are better than everyone else. That's not true power.



posted on Jun, 12 2018 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

You have not provided one example of a policy he created.



He got conservative judge Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. Consumer confidence is at an all-time high which also leads to a strong economy and the lowest unemployment in 50 years. He created more than a million jobs by undoing 800 Obama regulations that also has led to mortgage applications for new homes being at a 7 year high. Ended the war on coal and caused a new mine for coal mining to open that will mine clean coal and he also put the miners back to work. Promoted investments from major businesses to build back here in America. Reduced illegal immigration by over 70% and is working on his wall. Changed the rules of engagement against ISIS, and drafted a plan to defeat them. Worked to reduce the cost of the F-35 fighter jets. Imposed a five year lobbying plan. Reduced tax reform plan. He’s renegotiating NAFTA and withdrew from the Trans Pacific Partnership thus keeping jobs here.

Just a few off the top of my head...




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