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Word Leaders Managed to Find An Agreement at the G7... Then Trump Tweeted.

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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Isurrender73
What debate has Trump lost? You can't say it's the worse tactic if it never fails. Welcome to reality, Trump is winning everywhere on every point he is making.


You're free to believe that if you want, but Trump has lost almost every domestic policy issue he has brought forward and the US has in the span of under 2 years given up almost every bit of soft power it had in the world.




posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

None of that has anything to do with what I was talking about.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
If that's the case, everyone in the G7 should be very happy dealing with Trump. They can take advantage of his poor negotiating skills and lack of understanding of economics to make deals that favor their countries over ours. Somehow, they don't seem too happy, though.

I guess all those G7 leaders are just trying to help the American people at the expense of their own citizens, and they are unhappy that Trump won't cooperate.


They are, that's why they're excluding the US from future policy decisions. They would happily work with us, but we are clearly not willing to work with them in good faith, so they'll go to others who will. That's why China is now the leading voice on Iran policy, why the US has zero say in nuclear non proliferation, and why Russia is gaining leverage in Europe. Remember when just three years ago the US was poised to completely remove Russian gas sales from the entire continent and supply them ourselves? That's called soft power, and it's gone... it won't be coming back.

As far as the G7 goes, the various nations wanted to talk trade policy with the US in a formal setting. Everyone was gathered and the US # the bed. They are understandably ticked off and will simply go around us. The US does not have a monopoly on anything.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Sillyolme




Am I trying to reach a trade deal with another country? Then it doesn't friggin matter what I know now does it?



Triggered not by the substance of discussion but by her TDS of "all things Trump"
LOL, It's become a cancer here and somehow seems to be contagious.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

You don't understand the petro dollar and the command the US has over the global economy. Nor do you understand the history of international trade and what's happening in today's global marketplace.

You are a smart person who is talking about things you are not educated enough on. You're making yourself look foolish. You should do more listening and less assuming.


edit on 10-6-2018 by Isurrender73 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

Instead of telling me I don't understand it. Explain it to me. In your own words, not quoting someone elses opinion from a random website or video.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 07:07 PM
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I'm glad these weak minded fearful people are trying to run our country I'm tired of these people trying to run everything in this country



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: Whereismypassword

If you think Bolton is running the show then you haven't been paying attention.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 09:36 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

And who in the G7 besides Trump has that experience?

Remember, we're talking about people that are used to hearing yes more often than not.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 10:35 PM
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I have already tried, but will try again.

You simply are not understanding that the US economy has been raped in the tune of 1 trillion dollars per year by the trade agreements of the past, which has nothing to do with quality products but everything to do with corporate enrichment at the expense of the US citizens.

You keep lamenting Trump's approach. Anything is better than being the world's greatest technological nation while playing finacial punk bitch to the rest of the world.

Trump is trying to get us out the trade deals that decimated the middle class. You may disagree with his antics. Trunp may be a bit unrefined and unconventional and at times comes across as childish.

But in the world of international trade and finance he is in the seat of power and using it, unapologetically, to his advantage. Other than some obstructionist tactics from the DNC "corporate oligarchy representatives" Trump is winning everywhere.


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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

What is the point exactly? Why stir the pot like you think he purposely does and why do you think he would plan such stunts ahead of time? That sounds like the dumbest and most unnecessary strategy ever conceived.

It sounds to me like people like to create scenarios after-the-fact in order to make Trump look like a genius or the good guy constantly.

Why couldn't Trump have just not agreed to the deal to begin with instead of going through this totally unnecessary scheme you've conjured up here? Is Trump not man enough to deny the deal in person so he had to lie about it in order to renege later on Twitter? Because that's what your scenario implies. Otherwise what is the end goal other than to avoid confrontation in person? He's just as bad as Trudeau if that's the case.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 11:25 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

What is the point exactly? Why stir the pot like you think he purposely does and why do you think he would plan such stunts ahead of time? That sounds like the dumbest and most unnecessary strategy ever conceived.

It sounds to me like people like to create scenarios after-the-fact in order to make Trump look like a genius or the good guy constantly.

Why couldn't Trump have just not agreed to the deal to begin with instead of going through this totally unnecessary scheme you've conjured up here? Is Trump not man enough to deny the deal in person so he had to lie about it in order to renege later on Twitter? Because that's what your scenario implies. Otherwise what is the end goal other than to avoid confrontation in person? He's just as bad as Trudeau if that's the case.


Because sometimes you have to yank th erug out from others feet to make a point?



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 02:17 AM
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originally posted by: Isurrender73

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
The U. S continues on its course of isolationism.... It's gonna get bumpy kids better strap yourselves in....


Bumpy for the rest of the world. The US has been supporting the Chinese abd European economies for quite some time.

They need us. We don't need them at all. There is absolutely nothing important that the US imports that we cannot produce.






Interesting, I disagree, become isolated in a global economy will be bad for everyone.



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 02:37 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: burgerbuddy

Am I trying to reach a trade deal with another country?



Then it doesn't friggin matter what I know now does it?


Correct so





posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Isurrender73
What debate has Trump lost? You can't say it's the worse tactic if it never fails. Welcome to reality, Trump is winning everywhere on every point he is making.


You're free to believe that if you want, but Trump has lost almost every domestic policy issue he has brought forward and the US has in the span of under 2 years given up almost every bit of soft power it had in the world.


Soft power good?

We led from behind for 8 yrs too, while destroying countries.

Didn’t work did it?

Walk soft and carry a big stick is still the best FP.

Domestic policy fail is what?

Blame the dems and their cronies for that.

Kick the world in the balls, I say.

Wake the fu!





posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 03:14 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
If that's the case, everyone in the G7 should be very happy dealing with Trump. They can take advantage of his poor negotiating skills and lack of understanding of economics to make deals that favor their countries over ours. Somehow, they don't seem too happy, though.

I guess all those G7 leaders are just trying to help the American people at the expense of their own citizens, and they are unhappy that Trump won't cooperate.


They are, that's why they're excluding the US from future policy decisions. They would happily work with us, but we are clearly not willing to work with them in good faith, so they'll go to others who will. That's why China is now the leading voice on Iran policy, why the US has zero say in nuclear non proliferation, and why Russia is gaining leverage in Europe. Remember when just three years ago the US was poised to completely remove Russian gas sales from the entire continent and supply them ourselves? That's called soft power, and it's gone... it won't be coming back.

As far as the G7 goes, the various nations wanted to talk trade policy with the US in a formal setting. Everyone was gathered and the US # the bed. They are understandably ticked off and will simply go around us. The US does not have a monopoly on anything.



You ain’t American are you.




posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 03:41 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

If it's so dumb, reckless, and unnecessary, why does it seem to work?

More importantly, why do you care so much if its all the same to you?



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 03:42 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Can't ever be isolated when you're a huge portion of the world's market.

*points to temple and winks*



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 03:50 AM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Can't ever be isolated when you're a huge portion of the world's market.

*points to temple and winks*


Uhm... yes? Yes, you very well can be isolated.



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 03:56 AM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

If it's so dumb, reckless, and unnecessary, why does it seem to work?

Does it? In a good, productive way?

More importantly, why do you care so much if its all the same to you?

Because it was very offensive, showed a major character flaw (having his narcisstic trait shown to the world) and generally made the USA lose a lot of international credit?

Could be that this is a very very good move in Trumps 11D-chess, but there are major parts even in the USA doubting that he would be capable of anything beyond 1D-chess..

I believe that Trumps endgame is that he sees himself sitting on a golden throne and the rest of the worlds leaders are kneeling at his feet. Like a true narcist. Won't happen in real life.




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