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Trump castigates Canadas top political muppet for being weak & dishonest.

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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

Here's the link again.

www.cbc.ca...

Come on. You know, I know and Trump knows. I am a no body. I love Canada more than your do. Did I wake you up and your Brador spilled all over your shorts. Sorry eh but its all about Loonies and Toonie's.

Canada's Health Care is the sheets. Canada's loss of manufacturing jobs is the sheets. WTF happened to Canadian born NHL hockey players. What happened to Timmy Hortons coffee; sold to Burger King. Once beautiful Canada is out of control and Justin is destroying whats left of it. You refer to Trump as a ^*&^%&* Really? Is that for affects or for effects. The guy is trying to make USA back as #1 and that includes Canada but not with the present NAFTA or G7. Ever cross the bridges into the States. All one way. Semi trucks back up miles going into States from Canada and nothing entering Canada from the States. Hmm so impose a Tariff on USA made vehicles? I thought that GM and Ford has vehicle assembly plants in Canada. What about Heavy Truck manufacturer Western Star?




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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Metallicus
Trump is ultimately trying to get other countries to remove the unfair tariffs on our products by finally standing up to these other countries. They are just upset that we won’t be bending over and taking it anymore.

Eventually the goal is fair trade with no tariffs for anyone.

Good for Trump. Time to play fair.


well, you're ignorant of the facts.....the U.S. has a trade SURPLUS with Canada, while
Canada has a trade DEFICIT with the U.S......Canada should be demanding fair and equal trade. of all the G-7 nations there, Canada has the lowest tariffs, and the U.S. has the highest....maybe Trump should be honest with his voters, instead of lying to them.....it's obvious that trump voters like being lied to, as long as it comes out of trumps mouth.


According to census.gov the US run a deficit with Canada.
www.census.gov...
Are they lying too?


nope, but they do include the price-fluctuations of a commodity....oil



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

Justin is the worlds biggest Nancy boy

Utter weakness drops from his man-gina


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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: theantediluvian

It doesnt matter if what Trump said is true or not. All of this is being used as an excuse to bash "liberals" and Canada because they happen to no agree with Trump on the tariff issue.

To OP and others:

Canada has tariffs on Dairy because the US spends $20+ billion on subsidizing US dairy. Among many other reasons. Sadly a tweet from an idiot isnt going to contain any relevant information about why this happened.


Plus America's dairy with is full of bovine growth hormones. Most people in canada don't want to drink your # milk. Everyone was fairly pissed when american dairy started showing up unlabelled as such...
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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Metallicus
Trump is ultimately trying to get other countries to remove the unfair tariffs on our products by finally standing up to these other countries. They are just upset that we won’t be bending over and taking it anymore.

Eventually the goal is fair trade with no tariffs for anyone.

Good for Trump. Time to play fair.


well, you're ignorant of the facts.....the U.S. has a trade SURPLUS with Canada, while
Canada has a trade DEFICIT with the U.S......Canada should be demanding fair and equal trade. of all the G-7 nations there, Canada has the lowest tariffs, and the U.S. has the highest....maybe Trump should be honest with his voters, instead of lying to them.....it's obvious that trump voters like being lied to, as long as it comes out of trumps mouth.


According to census.gov the US run a deficit with Canada.
www.census.gov...
Are they lying too?


nope, but they do include the price-fluctuations of a commodity....oil


What difference would oil make?

I would like to read the academic paper you wrote.




posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DJW001





Trump can't be saving and destroying America at the same time, for example.


That's all pending on ones ideological beliefs and perception of the world around them. It's open to interpretation not an absolute.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 02:04 PM
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We should also note how no one has disputed Trump’s claims of unfair trade. Most criticisms are over his body language and words, which is routine for a political class concerned only with public relations.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope




We should also note how no one has disputed Trump’s claims of unfair trade.


Except Canada, and his own trade advisors.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
We should also note how no one has disputed Trump’s claims of unfair trade. Most criticisms are over his body language and words, which is routine for a political class concerned only with public relations.


Spot on - the political class are rather like the citizens of the Capitol in the Hunger Games and their media so similar too. Caeser Flickerman would be a perfect CNN host.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 03:12 PM
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Trump’s economic advisers say he’s wrong: The U.S. has a trade surplus with Canada, not a deficit www.thestar.com...


U.S. President Donald Trump has said over and over that the U.S. has a trade deficit with Canada. Over and over, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and other Canadian officials have said he’s incorrect.
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hy is there a U.S. surplus with Canada? The advisers — chairman Kevin Hassett, University of Chicago professor Tomas Philipson and Cornell University emeritus professor Richard Burkhauser — explain that the U.S. has a surplus in the trade of services. While the U.S. has a deficit in the trade of goods, the surplus in services is more than big enough to offset it.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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To understand better where Trump is coming from we should see what his advisors are telling him rather than reading opinions in the media.


U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $673.9 billion in 2017. Exports were $341.2 billion; imports were $332.8 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $8.4 billion in 2017.

However, the international shipment of non-U.S. goods through the United States can make standard measures of bilateral trade balances potentially misleading. For example, it is common for goods to be shipped through regional trade hubs without further processing before final shipment to their ultimate destination. This can be seen in data reported by the United States’ two largest trading partners, Canada and Mexico.

The U.S. data report a $17.5 billion goods deficit with Canada in 2017, and a $71.1 billion goods deficit with Mexico. Both countries, however, reported substantially larger U.S. goods surpluses in the same relationship. In 2017, Canada reported a $97.7 billion surplus, and Mexico a $132.4 billion surplus.


USTR.GOV site link

Reading the above, it does seem that Trump may essentially be correct in his assumptions.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: mtnshredder

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DJW001





Trump can't be saving and destroying America at the same time, for example.


That's all pending on ones ideological beliefs and perception of the world around them. It's open to interpretation not an absolute.


How can something so fundamentally important be "open to interpretation"?

Facts are facts. Perhaps relying on belief and "interpretation" rather than facts is where we should start correcting our course?



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

In a manner of speaking they really did. We first burned up their Parliament chamber after Yankees mistook powdered wigs on those chamber's walls, as being "scalps" lifted from American settlers. Then the Red Coats burned down the White House, in retaliation, during their Blitzkrieg raid on Washington D.C. As soon as our militias arrived, they had departed back to their ships. The Brits and Cannucks, were all joined at their hips, in 1812.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: CynConcepts


You're only looking at a sliver of the whole pie. For example, from my above post:

chairman Kevin Hassett, University of Chicago professor Tomas Philipson and Cornell University emeritus professor Richard Burkhauser — explain that the U.S. has a surplus in the trade of services. While the U.S. has a deficit in the trade of goods, the surplus in services is more than big enough to offset it.


Then there are lumber, and oil too I think, which are excluded in these trade stats for convoluted reasons, I'm sure. Plus, there are reasons why some products are regulated through tariffs to protect local markets that aren't being considered either. But, all things considered, the USA has had a good deal with Canada, and Mexico too, which the US has used as a dumping ground for decades.

Who knew trade could be so complicated? No one knew trade weren't that easy to win!



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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
Canadian PM, cultural appropriator and laughable political clown, Justin Trudeau, shows his true colours as a 2-faced liberal who pays lip service in front of Trump then backtracks as soon as Trumps in the air to Singapore.

Yup...world's laffing at Trudeau. Trump commands everybody's respect and admiration. Does the air taste funny in that Republican bubble?



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Did you not read my direct government link to the US Dept of Trade? There were even more details there than I provided here in quotes. Why in the world would I dismiss the real factual statistics provided there and instead read an article quoting someone else's viewpoint from Chicago no less!

That would be pure ignorance in trying to understand why our President believes we have unfair trade agreements.

Edit add: check out my link again. They do provide the statistics for services as well and in more detail. I simply quoted a small section...there is a lot more details there.

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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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From your own link:

Trade Balance
The U.S. goods trade deficit with Canada was $17.5 billion in 2017, a 59.7% increase ($6.5 billion) over 2016.
The United States has a services trade surplus of an estimated $26 billion with Canada in 2017, up 8.0% from 2016.




To understand better where Trump is coming from we should see what his advisors are telling him rather than reading opinions in the media.


Trump's own advisors are saying he is wrong about Canada.

www.marketwatch.com...

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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
People don't know that the SOB Trudeau has been helping China get sub-par steel into America. Everything from military helicopter blades, to the brake caliper parts that keep your family safe, are subject to deadly cracks and faults.


So, why are those who make these safety items buying this supposedly substandard steel?

I don't buy crap stuff . . . . it costs s few more bucks but I make a conscious decision to do so.

It isn't Canada's fault your corporate execs pinch pennies to bolster profits and ensure their annual bonus at the expense of your safety.

Quit blaming others for the greediness of those within your borders.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Last I knew Robert Lighthizer would be the one advising Trump regarding Canadian-US trade issues. Here is a statement that he actually released to the Press:


Washington, DC – U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer today issued the following statement on the status of negotiations to modernize and rebalance the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA):

“For many weeks now, the United States, Mexico and Canada have engaged in intensive, continuous discussions to renegotiate NAFTA, building on the seven rounds of rigorous negotiations that have taken place since August 2017.  The negotiations have covered a large number of very complex issues, especially those objectives outlined by Congress as part of the bipartisan Trade Promotion Authority such as intellectual property, dairy and agriculture, de minimis levels, energy, labor and more. 

“The current NAFTA is a seriously flawed trade deal, and the Trump Administration is committed to getting the best possible trade agreement for all Americans.  The United States is ready to continue working with Mexico and Canada to achieve needed breakthroughs on these objectives.  Our teams will continue to be fully engaged.”


Press brief release

Now it seems to me that his advisors believe that NAFTA is a seriously flawed trade deal. Hmmm.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:18 PM
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Well, first of all, Trump has a lot of "economic advisors, Mnuchin, Wilber Ross and Larry Ludlow are a few not mentioned. Secondly, the idea that NAFTA is seriously flawed, not that it's perfect, is a Trump administration talking point, much like "the wall", meant to incite his base. Third, most of Trump's alarmist cries are imaginary problems that are only crises in Trump's mind.

Illegal immigration is down.
Trade is going well.
The economy is strong.
Unemployment is low.
Violent Crime is down.
The military is richer and stronger than ever.



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