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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

This debate is not about the far right.
It's about radical muslim rape gangs and the treatment of Tommy Robinson by a state who for decades covered up said radical islamic rape gangs.
Your lies and your obfuscation of the actual issues at hand are indeed very clear.

As for Robinson, unfortunately for you I have indeed researched him - post the arrest - and was surprised to learn that he is not racist at all or a Nazi. Many more have done and will do exactly that with the attention this is getting, instead of believing liars and media propaganda.


(Facepalm)
None so blind as those who will not - or cannot - see.
So, for those who are keeping track, still no denial that you are not an American and no explanation as to why you use the word 'liberal' as an insult, when it's not an insult in the UK.
If you have really researched 'Robinson' then you know that his real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon and that he has form for being a thug, a fraud and a racist. Oh and an islamophobe.
This matter is about the Far Right. Who says so? The Far bloody Right. All the support for him has come from the Far Right - Geert Wilders, Batten (the muppet in charge of UKIP right now) and, of course the EDL.
Why people in America have taken up the cause of this man is something of a mystery to me.


You prove how little you know about Robinson.
As for 'refusing to deny', it's more a case of refusing to entertain the musings of a deranged liberal who doesn't know how to think for himself.


Once again, pointing this out yet again, the term 'liberal' is only an insult in the USA, amongst the US right wing. You are therefore not British, as the word is not an insult here in good old Brit-Cit.
You keep calling this muppet 'Robinson'. That's not his name. It's Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. You did read that he's got form for violence, fraud and generic idiocy - didn't you?
edit on 10-6-2018 by AngryCymraeg because: Typo




posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

This debate is not about the far right.
It's about radical muslim rape gangs and the treatment of Tommy Robinson by a state who for decades covered up said radical islamic rape gangs.
Your lies and your obfuscation of the actual issues at hand are indeed very clear.

As for Robinson, unfortunately for you I have indeed researched him - post the arrest - and was surprised to learn that he is not racist at all or a Nazi. Many more have done and will do exactly that with the attention this is getting, instead of believing liars and media propaganda.


(Facepalm)
None so blind as those who will not - or cannot - see.
So, for those who are keeping track, still no denial that you are not an American and no explanation as to why you use the word 'liberal' as an insult, when it's not an insult in the UK.
If you have really researched 'Robinson' then you know that his real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon and that he has form for being a thug, a fraud and a racist. Oh and an islamophobe.
This matter is about the Far Right. Who says so? The Far bloody Right. All the support for him has come from the Far Right - Geert Wilders, Batten (the muppet in charge of UKIP right now) and, of course the EDL.
Why people in America have taken up the cause of this man is something of a mystery to me.


You prove how little you know about Robinson.
As for 'refusing to deny', it's more a case of refusing to entertain the musings of a deranged liberal who doesn't know how to think for himself.


Once again, pointing this out yet again, the term 'liberal' is only an insult in the USA, amongst the US right wing. You are therefore not British, as the word is not an insult here in good old Brit-Cit.
You keep calling this muppet 'Robinson'. That's not his name. It's Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. You did read that he's got form for violence, fraud and generic idiocy - didn't you?


Yeah read all about history.
You clearly have not.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

This debate is not about the far right.
It's about radical muslim rape gangs and the treatment of Tommy Robinson by a state who for decades covered up said radical islamic rape gangs.
Your lies and your obfuscation of the actual issues at hand are indeed very clear.

As for Robinson, unfortunately for you I have indeed researched him - post the arrest - and was surprised to learn that he is not racist at all or a Nazi. Many more have done and will do exactly that with the attention this is getting, instead of believing liars and media propaganda.


(Facepalm)
None so blind as those who will not - or cannot - see.
So, for those who are keeping track, still no denial that you are not an American and no explanation as to why you use the word 'liberal' as an insult, when it's not an insult in the UK.
If you have really researched 'Robinson' then you know that his real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon and that he has form for being a thug, a fraud and a racist. Oh and an islamophobe.
This matter is about the Far Right. Who says so? The Far bloody Right. All the support for him has come from the Far Right - Geert Wilders, Batten (the muppet in charge of UKIP right now) and, of course the EDL.
Why people in America have taken up the cause of this man is something of a mystery to me.


You prove how little you know about Robinson.
As for 'refusing to deny', it's more a case of refusing to entertain the musings of a deranged liberal who doesn't know how to think for himself.


Once again, pointing this out yet again, the term 'liberal' is only an insult in the USA, amongst the US right wing. You are therefore not British, as the word is not an insult here in good old Brit-Cit.
You keep calling this muppet 'Robinson'. That's not his name. It's Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. You did read that he's got form for violence, fraud and generic idiocy - didn't you?


Yeah read all about history.
You clearly have not.


?????????????????????
Can anyone translate this? It makes no sense whatsoever to me.
I know that Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon has a history of fraud, violence and stupidity. He joined the BNP and claimed that he did not know that it was a bunch of racist scumbags, so he's obviously not very bright.
Now, let's get back to your usage of the word liberal. Because I want an explanation.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

This debate is not about the far right.
It's about radical muslim rape gangs and the treatment of Tommy Robinson by a state who for decades covered up said radical islamic rape gangs.
Your lies and your obfuscation of the actual issues at hand are indeed very clear.

As for Robinson, unfortunately for you I have indeed researched him - post the arrest - and was surprised to learn that he is not racist at all or a Nazi. Many more have done and will do exactly that with the attention this is getting, instead of believing liars and media propaganda.


(Facepalm)
None so blind as those who will not - or cannot - see.
So, for those who are keeping track, still no denial that you are not an American and no explanation as to why you use the word 'liberal' as an insult, when it's not an insult in the UK.
If you have really researched 'Robinson' then you know that his real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon and that he has form for being a thug, a fraud and a racist. Oh and an islamophobe.
This matter is about the Far Right. Who says so? The Far bloody Right. All the support for him has come from the Far Right - Geert Wilders, Batten (the muppet in charge of UKIP right now) and, of course the EDL.
Why people in America have taken up the cause of this man is something of a mystery to me.


You prove how little you know about Robinson.
As for 'refusing to deny', it's more a case of refusing to entertain the musings of a deranged liberal who doesn't know how to think for himself.


Once again, pointing this out yet again, the term 'liberal' is only an insult in the USA, amongst the US right wing. You are therefore not British, as the word is not an insult here in good old Brit-Cit.
You keep calling this muppet 'Robinson'. That's not his name. It's Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. You did read that he's got form for violence, fraud and generic idiocy - didn't you?


Yeah read all about history.
You clearly have not.


?????????????????????
Can anyone translate this? It makes no sense whatsoever to me.
I know that Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon has a history of fraud, violence and stupidity. He joined the BNP and claimed that he did not know that it was a bunch of racist scumbags, so he's obviously not very bright.
Now, let's get back to your usage of the word liberal. Because I want an explanation.


What you want is irrelevant.
You claimed Tomy Robinson is a racist. That was your 4th lie in this thread.
Those who actually have done their research know he is not.
He's not a stand-up model citizen by any means, but he is also neither a racist or a nazi.
Regardless of your continued deflection from the actual issue, I will point out again that yesterdays rally was to shine a light on radical muslim rape gangs and Tommy Robinson's treatment at the hands of the state for trying to shine a light on what they had willfully tried to cover up.
edit on 10/6/2018 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

This debate is not about the far right.
It's about radical muslim rape gangs and the treatment of Tommy Robinson by a state who for decades covered up said radical islamic rape gangs.
Your lies and your obfuscation of the actual issues at hand are indeed very clear.

As for Robinson, unfortunately for you I have indeed researched him - post the arrest - and was surprised to learn that he is not racist at all or a Nazi. Many more have done and will do exactly that with the attention this is getting, instead of believing liars and media propaganda.


(Facepalm)
None so blind as those who will not - or cannot - see.
So, for those who are keeping track, still no denial that you are not an American and no explanation as to why you use the word 'liberal' as an insult, when it's not an insult in the UK.
If you have really researched 'Robinson' then you know that his real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon and that he has form for being a thug, a fraud and a racist. Oh and an islamophobe.
This matter is about the Far Right. Who says so? The Far bloody Right. All the support for him has come from the Far Right - Geert Wilders, Batten (the muppet in charge of UKIP right now) and, of course the EDL.
Why people in America have taken up the cause of this man is something of a mystery to me.


You prove how little you know about Robinson.
As for 'refusing to deny', it's more a case of refusing to entertain the musings of a deranged liberal who doesn't know how to think for himself.


Once again, pointing this out yet again, the term 'liberal' is only an insult in the USA, amongst the US right wing. You are therefore not British, as the word is not an insult here in good old Brit-Cit.
You keep calling this muppet 'Robinson'. That's not his name. It's Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. You did read that he's got form for violence, fraud and generic idiocy - didn't you?


Yeah read all about history.
You clearly have not.


?????????????????????
Can anyone translate this? It makes no sense whatsoever to me.
I know that Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon has a history of fraud, violence and stupidity. He joined the BNP and claimed that he did not know that it was a bunch of racist scumbags, so he's obviously not very bright.
Now, let's get back to your usage of the word liberal. Because I want an explanation.


What you want is irrelevant.
You claimed Tomy Robinson is a racist. That was your 4th lie in this thread.
Those who actually have done their research know he is not.
He's not a stand-up model citizen by any means, but he is also neither a racist or a nazi.
Regardless of your continued deflection from the actual issue, I will point out again that yesterdays rally was to shine a light on radical muslim rape gangs and Tommy Robinson's treatment at the hands of the state for trying to shine a light on what they had willfully tried to cover up.

No, what I want is very relevant, because all you keep doing is reinforcing my belief that you are about as British as a Budweiser. You think that British people use the word liberal the same way that the lunatics in the GOP do. We don't.
Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon co-founded the EDL and is being defended by the Far Right. He was imprisoned for being a moron, breaching a court order put in place to prevent reporting on specific trials while proceedings are ongoing. The man is an islamophobe, and a rather demented one at that. Can I remind you that the people involved in the court cases he was 'reporting' on were already being prosecuted, so light was already being shed. Perhaps you object to the intensity of that light? Would it have helped if the authorities had erected a gibbet outside for the defendants, or set up a headsman's block? The law is being upheld. Vigilantes are not welcomed in this country.
And yes, Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is a racist.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Your beliefs about why you want something are also irrelevant.
..and no, Tommy Robinson is not a racist - clearly not to anyone who has even done a small amount of research.
For liars, propagandists and muslim rape gang enablers and apologists it is a convenient moniker, however.

edit on 10/6/2018 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Your beliefs about why you want something are also irrelevant.
..and no, Tommy Robinson is not a racist - clearly not to anyone who has even done a small amount of research.
For liars, propagandists and muslim rape gang enablers and apologists it is a convenient moniker, however.


If you seriously think that I am any of those things then you are gravely mistaken. And if you seriously think that Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (please stop using his false name, that's a lie) is in any way, shape or form, a reputable person then your research is lacking in so many ways that I pity you.
But then let's get back to the little matter of your nationality, "Cousin Jonathan". And why you think that British people think that liberals are far-left, when they don't.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Your beliefs about why you want something are also irrelevant.
..and no, Tommy Robinson is not a racist - clearly not to anyone who has even done a small amount of research.
For liars, propagandists and muslim rape gang enablers and apologists it is a convenient moniker, however.


If you seriously think that I am any of those things then you are gravely mistaken. And if you seriously think that Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (please stop using his false name, that's a lie) is in any way, shape or form, a reputable person then your research is lacking in so many ways that I pity you.
But then let's get back to the little matter of your nationality, "Cousin Jonathan". And why you think that British people think that liberals are far-left, when they don't.


Tommy Smith decides to go by that name. For legal proceedings, he must use his legal name. It is no more a lie to use his public name than it is to use 'Bono' to identify the popular singer. Your request to stop referring to Tommy Robinson as Tommy Robinson is denied.
I am also not suggesting that Tommy Robinson is a reputable person - in fact, I stated he was not by any means. I am, however, calling out your clear lie that he is a racist.
As for the rest of your post, you've already been given my response to your silly accusations.


edit on 10/6/2018 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I'm liberal in my views, center ground politics, I steal a bit from the left and right while wishing we had a strong supported political party which did the same.
I think being called liberal in the UK is a compliment lol
...matey was a knob for breaching the terms of his suspended prison sentence so only has himself to blame. I'm more convinced as I think about it that he intended to be a martyr for his cause. It might have been better if they'd just held him for 24 hours then released him quietly in the early morning. He's a slippery one, and I'd say quite intelligent. He chooses his words very carefully and although I don't share his ideology, I do recognise careful legally sound use of language.
It's like not pissing mods off on ATS to be fair lol



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Your beliefs about why you want something are also irrelevant.
..and no, Tommy Robinson is not a racist - clearly not to anyone who has even done a small amount of research.
For liars, propagandists and muslim rape gang enablers and apologists it is a convenient moniker, however.


If you seriously think that I am any of those things then you are gravely mistaken. And if you seriously think that Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (please stop using his false name, that's a lie) is in any way, shape or form, a reputable person then your research is lacking in so many ways that I pity you.
But then let's get back to the little matter of your nationality, "Cousin Jonathan". And why you think that British people think that liberals are far-left, when they don't.


Tommy Smith decides to go by that name. For legal proceedings, he must use his legal name. It is no more a lie to use his public name than it is to use 'Bono' to identify the popular singer. Your request to stop referring to Tommy Robinson as Tommy Robinson is denied.
I am also not suggesting that Tommy Robinson is a reputable person - in fact, I stated he was not by any means. I am, however, calling out your clear lie that he is a racist.
As for the rest of your post, you've already been given my response to your silly accusations.



Nah, I'm going to keep referring to him as Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, so your denial is denied. You have implied that he's reputable by making him seem plausible. He's not. And yes, the man is a racist. A man who joined the BNP and then set up the EDL, which became a sinkhole for racists, therefore has certain... views.
I'm still waiting for you to explain why you think that 'liberal' is an insult to a Brit. When it's not.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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Nah, I'm going to keep referring to him as Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, so your denial is denied.


I didn't ask you to. You get ever more bizarre.



You have implied that he's reputable by making him seem plausible. He's not. And yes, the man is a racist. A man who joined the BNP and then set up the EDL, which became a sinkhole for racists, therefore has certain... views.


Plausible and reputable are two different things. It's certainly plausible to question the govt about their coverup of muslim rape gangs, as The TImes did, initially. Your assertions that Tommy Robinson is racist is just one of your many lies on this thread. You can keep repeating the lie all you like, it won't make it true.



I'm still waiting for you to explain why you think that 'liberal' is an insult to a Brit. When it's not.


Enjoy waiting.

edit on 10/6/2018 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
It's certainly plausible to question the govt about their coverup of muslim rape gangs, as The TImes did, initially.

Massively agree. It has been a dirty secret similar to when Catholic priests were raping kids.
Covered up and hidden.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: UKTruth
It's certainly plausible to question the govt about their coverup of muslim rape gangs, as The TImes did, initially.

Massively agree. It has been a dirty secret similar to when Catholic priests were raping kids.
Covered up and hidden.


Yep, sicko's in the Catholic church have been at it for years. I fully support any person speaking up against that too. It's way past time to stop the cover-up and bring these people to justice - and their enablers.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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I think anyone who is simply laying on the grief for Tommy, even British (or God forbid, English) guys who perhaps think that Tommy is a born-again Nazi, should probably man up to the fact that - although there are always antagonists & provocateurs hanging around the edges of protest movements - Tommy Robinson's anti-Islam sentiment & passionate, organised stance against Islamic crimes taking place within certain segments of the Islamic community, is NOT fascism, he was NOT cultured in a petri dish, free of external influences, by Dr Josef Mengele...

Tommy's history, and the raison d'etre for his organised protest movement, was birthed in direct response to Al Mujahideen taking over (trying to) the community where he grew up, where hideous abuses of the young, the elderly, Jewish, blacks & other vulnerable non-Muslims were known to be occurring with continuing regularity, unopposed by the authorities due to fears of being called racist, whilst decades-old national policies of mass immigration from Pakistan & Bangladesh, to generate (by force or by stealth) a 'multicultural' Britain carried on unabated, carrying a tide of Jihadi supremacy with it.

Which in itself is fine & dandy. But 'the problem' highlighted by Tommy's protest movement is not multiculturalism (he actually defends Jews & blacks openly & with real honesty/ integrity - his attitude can be clearly discerned) - the problem, is the large faction of variably tightly/loosely organised fascist Islamists hiding behind the pretense of victimhood, when in fact they were the active terrorists involved in myriad atrocities both reported & unreported, and that this has been going on for decades now should wake us all up to the institutional failings of the BS liberal, antifa-snowflake-paradox of abuses against ordinary people trying to live ordinary lives.

Watch Tommy's speech at the Oxford Union in 2014. He's not a polished public speaker, but his passion, grief & integrity seem to hold true as he discusses, with reasoned eloquence, 'the problem' which I've described in part above. He needs to be heard, not censored. The truth is that Nazis did try to hijack the EDL before even 2014. Whether they have succeeded in part at this time, I'm not sure - but observe the roots of his organised protest efforts, and you will see honesty, frustration, anger & sadness, and a passion to highlight the injustice which has been perpetrated, leaving thousands of young & old victims, while the vile perpetrators slink & skulk in the shadows of their organised, slippery treachery. The real criminals are very, very apparent, if you give this working class Englishman a few minutes of your time.



Free Tommy.

(After fair trials) - Cage the beasts who spit on our soldiers, rape our little girls, beat our sons, threaten our mothers & hound our grandparents.







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posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 01:15 AM
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a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Aha! A person who actually HAS done some research.
A refreshing change from the liars who think they have it all sussed after reading The Guardian and watching the BBC.



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 01:55 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Aha! A person who actually HAS done some research.
A refreshing change from the liars who think they have it all sussed after reading The Guardian and watching the BBC.






I don't think anyone is arguing that the scumbags who r ape others should be ignored and left to what they do.

I'm curious if the twat that runs the kkk whatever his name is, if he came out and starting rallying against pedos and was arrested during that rally, would you support him, would you look past all his past transgressions and support him regardless?



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 02:58 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Aha! A person who actually HAS done some research.
A refreshing change from the liars who think they have it all sussed after reading The Guardian and watching the BBC.






I don't think anyone is arguing that the scumbags who r ape others should be ignored and left to what they do.

I'm curious if the twat that runs the kkk whatever his name is, if he came out and starting rallying against pedos and was arrested during that rally, would you support him, would you look past all his past transgressions and support him regardless?


It depends on whether I thought the state was treating him fairly based on the reason they arrested him at the rally.
What I would never condone is a person being targeted and punished unfairly by the state just because of who they are. That is tyranny.



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 04:00 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

interesting no one is calling them 'thugs' or 'domestic terrorists' or 'plants/shills/paid deep state' etc

very telling



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 04:06 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

What do you mean?
Very telling?



posted on Jun, 11 2018 @ 04:16 AM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

If this were other people "rioting" people would be calling it domestic terrorism, thugs, they should be arrested, 'eliminated' and any other slurs and pejoratives they could think of, it is telling of those people who will frame this different




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