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Originally posted by radardog
It's interesting to me that the discussion picked up on Hitler's religion, and not his notes on the comments of his actions. Doesn't anyone see anything else that's interesting in these quotes?
Originally posted by radardog
It seems to me that you're reaching for some sort of 'not a REAL Scotsman' ideal. Granted, christianity would have been an invaluable tool if used by a faux christian; however, by the same measure it would have just as valuable of a tool if used by a "real" christian. In that, in the nature of men, we typically can only go by their words for their beliefs; even the most holy of men do actions contrary what they truly believe.
Being against jews does not divorce one from being christian, or catholic. Historically, the catholic church was rather anti-semitic, and let's not even mention Martin Luther's hatred towards jews. In hindsight, the catholic church should consider their own leaders "evil" for the exact type of crimes committed by Hitler and his regime. The only difference is that the catholic church killed men called heretics instead of men called inferior.
An objective look at all available evidence, in my opinion, points towards Hitler's christianity and his confession thereof. And yes, it is possible for a christian to sin -- and thus, it is possible for a christian to be evil, including Hitler.
Originally posted by Reaganwasourgreatest
Hitler was a German pagan. His god was the State. Much like most liberals.
You are incorrect on a number of things. If you do not believe in Christian ideals, you are not Christian, no matter what you call yourself. Though no one is perfect and Christians do screw up, you must believe in Christian ideals to be a Christian.
For example, one must believe in the divinity or teachings of Christ as the ultimate law to aspire to. Hitlers aspirations were very UNCHRISTIAN.
Originally posted by kazi
And it was during those years the bush family was raising money for hitler and greasing his pagan war machine. Want websites, ther's plenty.
Originally posted by Stratrf_Rus
"The Führer is deeply religious, though completely anti-Christian; he views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race."—Joseph Goebbels, in his diary, December 28, 1939.
"Christianity is the prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society." —Hitler 1941
"The German people, especially the youth, have learned once again to value people racially-they have once again turned away from Christian theories, from Christian teaching which has ruled Germany for more than a thousand years and caused the racial decay of the German Volk, and almost its racial death." —Heinrich Himmler May 22, 1936 at a speech in Brocken, Germany.
Originally posted by junglejake
#4 I suspect you're trying to parallel to Bush. There was one primary difference, and many, many others. The primary difference is that Hitler would throw detractors into concentration camps. Not the ones reserved for the Jews, but others.