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Suicide now 10th leading cause of death in usa

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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:28 AM
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Just after two celebrity suicides in a week, one a chef, one a fashion designer, we now find that suicide is number 10 on the killer list.

"CDC: Suicides increased by more than 30 percent since 1999 in half the states"

I found this clip interesting.

"Opioids were present in 31 percent of those who died by suicide. While Stone acknowledged that a person’s intentions are not always clear when drugs are present, these were deemed to be suicides by self-inflicted poisoning."

I have argued for a long time that the increase in school shootings is a result of increased mental disease. Not a gun issue.

Self harm is way up over the same time period so it's hard to believe there is no connection.

Why such a change?
Diets?
Culture?

www.omaha.com...


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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Drug use I would imagine in the older segment, lack of ability to deal with reality in a lot of cases in the younger segment.


My opinion and a couple bucks will get you a cup of coffee at a 7-11.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:32 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Disconnected societies, communities, and families?
I still live in a world where checking a mates status means walking to their house and knocking their door. My tribe is strong and very connected, socially, emotionally, and geographically...and yes I feel for people who don't enjoy such a lifestyle.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:33 AM
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From what I see around here, Suicide has increased substantially over the last five years. Some of the incidents here have ties to social media events. Social media can have a contributing factor to suicide.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:37 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

I think it's mainly a cultural or society issue.

Everything moves so fast these days. Families aren't spending the same amount of time as they used to. Parents are working more, kids are expected to have more on their plate than just school.

With everyone looking for answers I feel to many go to the doctor, hoping for a fix me pill. Sometimes all we need is someone who knows us, and just to realize that they care.

Going back to your opiods comment, even more have Xanax or something of the likes. These drugs can benefit some, but I think they're over prescribed.

We could even dive deeper and ask the question how much of out youth are on salt amphetamines (Adderall). Again, can benefit some... But I highly doubt the majority prescribed truly need it. Kids are hyper, and I think we're forgetting that somehow.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:41 AM
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Social media with the younger ones for sure, some of the hatred my son shows me on his various accounts is shocking.
He doesn't get much because he's 6 foot+ and plays competitive rugby for our town so can handle himself, but less fortunate young people get really bullied online. It's very sad. Back in my day we'd just have a fight then shake hands afterwards, but the digital world has changed everything.
I even see it on ATS, I bet most of the angry people wouldn't dream of being the way they are in a face to face discussion at the pub.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy


I even see it on ATS, I bet most of the angry people wouldn't dream of being the way they are in a face to face discussion at the pub.


Its easy to get worked up over issues we're passionate about. I found my online footprint was unhealthy so I made a simple rule for myself.

Don't ever say something online you wouldn't say to someone face to face in the presence of others. I'm not perfect but I really try to live by that rule... It's helped immensely.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:47 AM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Can't say I disagree.
Social media has definitely harmed our kids.
But at the same time we give them trophies for finishing last and say good job.
They can't understand failure.

But that doesn't explain suicides of older generations. There is more to it somewhere.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Why should we care? I mean obviously the people who kill them selves didn’t want to be here in the first place. Who are we to get in there way?

As cold as that sounds it’s a serious question.

While I know suicide tears apart the ones left behind with unanswered questions, what about the person who killed them selves? What about their feelings? Maybe society should embrace suicide and create an environment where the ones who want to kill them selves get to say goodbye to all the family members like a funeral. But they are alive to say it to everyone and explain its their choice.

Then they head off to a medical professional and they assist in the suicide. Would be a lot better on everyone I assure you.

Cut your junk off and you’re normal, want to kill yourself and your crazy. Just don’t get it.






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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

I'm the same, I interact online as if I'm at the pub debating something over a game of pool and a pint.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: GuidedKill


Why should we care? I mean obviously the people who kill them selves didn’t want to be here in the first place. Who are we to get in there way?


Why should we care about cancer? It's someone's owns cells trying to self destruct the body?

Because we're human and we try to move foward.

If you had a kid and they had mental health issues, would you just say "well that selfish a hole obviously doesn't want to be here.... Something something free will".

While we all have a right to an opinion, why don't you keep this one to yourself as it is not conducive to one of societies greatest problems right now.

If you don't want to help, go sit and watch some Tele while those who would like to help don't have anyone in their way.

Good day sir.
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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: GuidedKill

You make some fair points.
I've seen body piercings and tattoos that I would call self harm but it's not viewed like a young girl cutting herself.
As for cutting off your junk, I would put that on a different branch of the same mental tree.
The ruined rate for transgender folks is high as well.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:54 AM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: CriticalStinker

I'm the same, I interact online as if I'm at the pub debating something over a game of pool and a pint.


Some of my favorite nights are debating with some of my friends. The more passion the better, at no cost of respect though.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Breakdown of the family unit.
Processed food
Technology addictions
Drugs
Alienation
Belief that money and possessions will make you happy.
And the biggest and most powerful is total identification with the egoic self and no identification with the intuitive, higher self.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Yes true, not at my local rugby club though, if you aren't good enough you don't get picked for match day. My son has experienced failure and having to win his success, and it has made him stronger. He has to train hard to get his place on a Saturday, more so now he's a first team player, no prizes for lack of effort or standards.

...and older people, I still think it is the disconnected societies these days, friends not living in walking distance, lack of socialising opportunities etc.
I'm lucky, my social group is large and connected deeply emotionally, socially, and geographically, but I bet it can be a lonely world in some big cities and such like.
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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 08:05 AM
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originally posted by: GuidedKill
a reply to: Bluntone22

Why should we care? I mean obviously the people who kill them selves didn’t want to be here in the first place. Who are we to get in there way?

As cold as that sounds it’s a serious question.

While I know suicide tears apart the ones left behind with unanswered questions, what about the person who killed them selves? What about their feelings? Maybe society should embrace suicide and create an environment where the ones who want to kill them selves get to say goodbye to all the family members like a funeral. But they are alive to say it to everyone and explain its their choice.

Then they head off to a medical professional and they assist in the suicide. Would be a lot better on everyone I assure you.

Cut your junk off and you’re normal, want to kill yourself and your crazy. Just don’t get it.


I think there is some merit to your discussion. The situation you described would give the person the chance to change their mind and they wouldn't have to make that decision in the pit of despair. They could back out up until the last minute. If they still wish to go ahead the job would be done right. Can you imagine the absolute hell of blowing your head off only to realize you are still alive only without a face? I feel that many who are inspired to commit suicide wouldn't give up as quick if they know they always have that option. Kurt Vonegut called them "ethical suicide parlors" in his books.








posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Just after two celebrity suicides in a week, one a chef, one a fashion designer, we now find that suicide is number 10 on the killer list.

"CDC: Suicides increased by more than 30 percent since 1999 in half the states"

I found this clip interesting.

"Opioids were present in 31 percent of those who died by suicide. While Stone acknowledged that a person’s intentions are not always clear when drugs are present, these were deemed to be suicides by self-inflicted poisoning."

I have argued for a long time that the increase in school shootings is a result of increased mental disease. Not a gun issue.

Self harm is way up over the same time period so it's hard to believe there is no connection.

Why such a change?
Diets?
Culture?

www.omaha.com...



Those are important questions to be answered. So how are your tax dollars being spent to find out why, if at all?
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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Every disease in America in treated with a pill.
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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 08:16 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: InTheLight

They disease in America it treated with a pill.


But those people that really need the pill, don't think they need the pill, they think everyone else needs it. So they don't take the pill.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 08:19 AM
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My wife has been a level I trauma city ER MD attending for the better part of 2 decades...

Since residency, many deaths have been apparent suicides but we were loathe to list them as such in the charts for the ME to examine...

We are southerners and it’s not societally accepted to commit suicide (if you understand what I’m saying)

In any case, I wouldn’t be surprised if 33-50% of deaths are suicides but are under-reported...

Before any one argues with me or judges me on this fact, I can only say it happens across the board...

I ask y’all this: would you rather say to someone their elderly father decided to take all his heart pills a few months after his wife died so he could join her in death OR is it better to tell them he accidentally overdosed due to confusion?
The answer is an easy one when you are in the family room...I assure you...

It is the living who must suffer the death to pass (if I may steal from Tolkien)

-Chris



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