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Transgender Man....gives birth to baby

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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: TinySickTears


Shunned in the way that you are labeled as a not being a tolerant person or even phobic because you question the reality of their identity , despite not really caring how they identify.

For example the hesitation to answer the following question

Do you think a person that identifies as real animals, imaginary animals (dragons, etc.),gender . really what they identify as?



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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: TinySickTears


Shunned in the way that you are labeled as a not being a tolerant person or even phobic because you question the reality of their identity , despite not really caring how they identify.

For example the hesitation to answer the following question

Do you think a person that identifies as real animals, imaginary animals (dragons, etc.), race,gender . really what they identify as?




Well you have no real grounds to question how people identify or how they behave or what they do if they have no bearing on your life.

So yeah. Maybe stay out of people's personal #. They're business is not for you to tolerate or not unless they have an impact on your life and then yeah, tolerence is the way to go.

I mean why not?
Let's just say it's fake not real mental health pc bull#.
So what?
Their life. You don't have to agree



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 11:22 AM
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As long as the child is happy, why should any of us care?

From the outside looking in, it may seem strange...but if it works, it works.

It is in no ways different from two gay men, raising a child. Or two gay women raising a child.

The only thing that matters is the child. If the child is happy (this apparently bears repeating...), then nothing else matters.

Nothing.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 11:24 AM
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Has anyone brought up Cartman yet?



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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So yeah. Maybe stay out of people's personal #. They're business is not for you to tolerate or not unless they have an impact on your life and then yeah, tolerence is the way to go.


See you just proved my point by trying to shun me , belittle me, or paint me as non tolerant with an invalid irrelevant argument and your continued hesitation to honestly answer the question.

When Did I say I'm getting into their business or I don't tolerate them ? Actually I have said the opposite numerous times. I don't care if they identify as a goat, dragon, male, or female, I could care less as long as it doesn't hurt others.

However , just because they feel like a goat and I don't really agree that they are a goat, it doesn't make me any less tolerant or phobic of them or that I'm trying to intrude in their life.

I have no problem respecting their identity. Just respect others that don't agree that your feelings defines your gender ,species,etc. It may define you as who you are as a person, which is fine but it doesn't define your gender. That Man having a baby was no man according to science.






I mean why not? Let's just say it's fake not real mental health pc bull#. So what? Their life. You don't have to agree

Agreed.

What I don't agree with is labeling those that don't agree that your feelings define your gender or species as phobic or non tolerant.


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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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But there is nothing "special" about this story, nature took her hand and guided her through 9 months of pregnancy as a biological woman. Not a magical man who popped out a baby.


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahhahaha

Nature took her hand etc....what kind of dream world you living in?????

hahhahahahaha



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 11:31 AM
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A child may appear to be happy...but psychologically they can be messed up ASF



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: interupt42


See you just proved my point by trying to shun me , belittle me, or paint me as non tolerant with an invalid irrelevant argument and your continued hesitation to honestly answer the question.




i did none of that
i gave an opinion
not shunned or belittled... calm it down

i already answered your question.

i dont know how more clear i can be

i dont give a # if people identify as an animal be it a real one or a fake one. i dont care if people identify as a clown made of candy.

i do not care.

i care about these things as far as i like to have discussions on the internet with people i dont know cause i dont like real people. when you people start to bother me i close my computer and away i go.

even though i dont agree with with everyones opinion on things i like to get those opinions. people from different places and different walks of life.
then i think about it for a while and try to open my mind up a bit.

so whats your problem?



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:13 PM
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LOL, I do believe you need to take your own advice and calm your roll.




i dont give a # if people identify as an animal be it a real one or a fake one. i dont care if people identify as a clown made of candy.


Again dodging the question. I didn't ask you if you cared.

I asked you if you think that someone that identifies as a dog, is really a dog?




i care about these things as far as i like to have discussions on the internet with people i dont know cause i dont like real people. when you people start to bother me i close my computer and away i go.

Well I'm glad I'm not bothering you yet,





even though i dont agree with with everyones opinion on things i like to get those opinions. people from different places and different walks of life. then i think about it for a while and try to open my mind up a bit.


Thats good and a healthy attitude I try to have as well.





so whats your problem?

Like I said previously.

Labeling people as phobic or non tolerant simply because they don't agree that ones feelings is what defines their gender.

Do you not agree? Or do you feel its justifiable to shun them or label them as phobic or non tolerant?




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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:15 PM
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A woman with a mental illness gave birth. This shouldn't be news, it should be a HIPPA violation.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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The person who really suffers in this science experiment is the kid. Nice work idiots ya just ruined his life.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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I asked you if you think that someone that identifies as a dog, is really a dog?



no i dont
i think they think they are really a dog. some of them
i think others are probably stupid and want attention like most people but sure... some probably really think they are a dog

i do not think any of them are a dog..

but also me accepting or not accepting them thinking they are really a dog is a non issue. it is not for me to accept or not. it has no bearing on my life at all.

it just is

cant answer any better than that



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: lakenheath24

A woman with a mental illness gave birth. This shouldn't be news, it should be a HIPPA violation.


where do we draw line though.

what about john and jane doe? if he likes to go upside her head every now and again or maybe call her some names is it a violation to bring a baby into that?
violation of what?

what about people that cant afford it? thats a big one
is it a violation? should it be stopped? not saying you said that... just talking

why is this one so #ty?

just trying to see where people fall



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:35 PM
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no i dont
i think they think they are really a dog. some of them
i think others are probably stupid and want attention like most people but sure... some probably really think they are a dog

i do not think any of them are a dog..

but also me accepting or not accepting them thinking they are really a dog is a non issue. it is not for me to accept or not. it has no bearing on my life at all.

it just is


Complete 100% agreement.






i do not think any of them are a dog..

Agreed and that doesn't make you a bad person , or a phobic person, or a non tolerant person.

Like I said my issue is with those that label a person as being phobic or intolerant for not believing what a person claims to be , despite accepting what they THINK they are.


However, it does bring up a valid question to ponder as to why a person is classified as having a mental disorder if they identify as a dog but not if they identify as a women despite being a male?

Like you I don't care what you identify as long as it makes you happy and doesn't hurt others, But why is one a mental issue and the other one not ?

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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:48 PM
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I'm not suggesting this is some sort of legal violation or whatnot, I'm saying it isn't something we should be celebrating. Look, we've perverted the concept of "tolerance." Tolerance once meant "Well, OK... I think you're a screwed up dumbass, but liver and let live, you have a right to be a screwed up dumbass." Now it has become conflated to what could more accurately be described as advocation and celebration. I refuse to go there. I admit these people have a right to live their lives, that said, I refuse to change my own personal moral values to advocate for this celebration of mental illness and I sure as hell am not going to participate in the mental illness and blatantly lie to myself saying "Oh, she says she's a man, so she is now he and a man he is. Look, a man just gave birth!" Bullsnip, a man didn't give birth here. A woman with gender confusion and mental issues thinks she's a man, but happened to have one of her eggs fertilized by a man's sperm, the egg attached to the walls of her uterus, and she beat the odds and carried it term despite undergoing unnatural male hormone infusions. A woman just gave birth. That's not newsworthy and, frankly, celebrating it for any reason beyond a new life entering the world is just enabling this tomfoolery.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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I agree dude.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 12:54 PM
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where do we draw line though.


My Wife is an ER nurse and diagnostic and actions taken does and can depend on the persons sex for certain things.

I Can see this becoming a real issue once lawsuits start to be taken against the doctors and nurses.

Either for treating a transgender Male as a Male and thus incorrectly diagnosing the patient, thus leading to further complications . Or a doctor treating a transgender Male as female and being sued for discrimination or being transphobic.

Sadly I guess lawyer$ will eventually determine what is the appropriate treatment for the patient.


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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: TinySickTears




no i dont
i think they think they are really a dog. some of them
i think others are probably stupid and want attention like most people but sure... some probably really think they are a dog

i do not think any of them are a dog..

but also me accepting or not accepting them thinking they are really a dog is a non issue. it is not for me to accept or not. it has no bearing on my life at all.

it just is


Complete 100% agreement.






i do not think any of them are a dog..

Agreed and that doesn't make you a bad person , or a phobic person, or a non tolerant person.

Like I said my issue is with those that label a person as being phobic or intolerant for not believing what a person claims to be , despite accepting what they THINK they are.


However, it does bring up a valid question to ponder as to why a person is classified as having a mental disorder if they identify as a dog but not if they identify as a women despite being a male?

Like you I don't care what you identify as long as it makes you happy and doesn't hurt others, But why is one a mental issue and the other one not ?


Yea but if you proceed with this analogy, the dog man demands that you accept him as a dog and treat him like one too. This is what we are hearing from the trans. If you don't agree, then that demonstrates how ridiculous all this is.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:37 PM
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You agree with him....but disagree with me?! Really? My brain says....freak. sicko. This person wanted to be a man when it was convenient. Then wanted to be a chick when it wanted a baby. It couldnt have a baby naturally because its vag had been locked up...yet gee....i now want a baby so im gonna come off my meds and have a freakin c section. Its odd. Weird. Gross. And reeks of mental retardation.
Then, these 2 idiots are free to influence this kid for what....to make a political point.


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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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Thats another thing......phobic. a phobia is a fear of something. These things dont scare me...i will even shake one of their hands if the opportunity arises. What they do is disgust ne. Like mushy vegetables or driving a chevy. My brain says ick.

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