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Jesus was 'drag king' with 'queer desires,' claims theology professor

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posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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And tune in next week when profesor Liew pulls monkeys out of Uranus....




posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DeathSlayer




Have you ever heard of blasphemy?


LOL Yeah. I've heard all kinds of "blasphemy" when it comes to "Jesus". In truth, "Jesus" "Christ" is just a metaphor of the human condition, so people are going to project all kinds of human projection on it.


I doubt you are an expert in theology in fact I doubt you believe in God. You, like this professor, just want to be a troll. It is disgusting that people need to make others feel bad to get their satisfaction.

I am not a Christian, but I am not going to go out of my way to mess with them either. I think it is immature and sad.


Why? People's beliefs are ridiculous...all of them. No matter what anyone believes it's just something that exists in their own head to make them feel better about the world. That's kinda what makes them beliefs and not facts. No matter what people choose to believe it's going to be ridiculous. The whole problem with the world over the last 2000 years or so is that people take their beliefs so seriously they must convert or kill any that have different beliefs. So in all honesty...ya # everybody's beliefs....if people could learn to keep that # to themselves in their own heads where it belongs there'd be no problem...but everybody's gotta come along and push that # onto everybody else so they can validate their place in the world.
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posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

That’s the problem with the Bible ...

It is too big , too contradictory and too vague..

It has always allowed for anyone to read anything into it..

Wanna prove charity is a good thing??


I can site a verse..

Wanna prove charity is bad???

I can site a verse??


Wanna prove slavery is good or bad.. I can site a verse..

Damn you martin Luther and “everyone can interpret the Bible!”

Lol



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

It is unfortunate that people attempt to read and understand the bible without the Holy Spirit guiding them and showing them visions and dreams to help them understand. No spiritual guidance .... put the bible down.



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 04:42 PM
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And it's a well known fact that Professor Liew practiced cannibalism, incest, pedophilia and bestiality. Well known. He has 18 arrest records for indecent exposure.

His mother was a prostitute and his father was an iron worker and alcoholic for most of his life. His siblings both died at he hand of the mother in a triple suicide............ so I heard.... See how that works ? Its the ninth commandment ..... but wait ?



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

This guy just might be sincere. I often run into this type off thing when talking to non Christians about the Bible. Without that background, so many things are foreign to them. They think they understand but they just don't.



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 05:07 PM
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Jesus was an alien, this is my interpretation based off of the 4 gospels.

Walks on water, levitates and changes appearance, super smart at 12, says he's not of this world, talks about his home in the sky all the time.

Still, if your man wants to project his pent-up sexual depravity onto Jesus, that's his call, still doesn't change my mind.



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer
a reply to: JoshuaCox

It is unfortunate that people attempt to read and understand the bible without the Holy Spirit guiding them and showing them visions and dreams to help them understand. No spiritual guidance .... put the bible down.


See this # right here. This is the problem with beliefs. It's believe what we tell you...in the way we tell you or you're wrong, # you. My head voices are the only correct head voices....



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 05:16 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Huh, your'e right. You're beliefs about beliefs are sort of ridiculous.



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 05:21 PM
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I like to think of Jesus pounding away on a bent over Mohammed with a ball gag in his mouth. I can almost smell it



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Hi Death--

You wrote QUOTE

'This is not a Christian teaching and he is not a Christian because we do not blaspheme God or his son I have never heard a Christian refer to Christ as a drag queen or a homosexual.'

UNQUOTE

I am not necessarily defending the thesis of this fringe-professor, but he managed somehow to raise some dust off this old subject of the sexual preference for R. Yehoshua bar Yosef the Galilean Nazir (c. BCE 12 - 36 CE) aka 'Jesus' (Gk. 'ho Iesous') in the canonical four Greek council-approved 'gospels'in the Christian 'bible,' especially the 4th Greek Gospel ('according to John', whoever he was).

Interestingly, perhaps, is the 4th Gospel's use of 'typology' wherein deeds associated with a biblical figure from the past (e.g. Elisha'q or David) are re-lived by 'Jesus' (e.g. whereas Elisha'q in the book of 2 Kings turns a pot of poisoned porridge into something edible (i.e. healthy gruel), 'Jesus' miraculously changes 'water' into 'wine' at the Wedding at Cana'; whereas Elisha'q raises from death the Widow of Nain's son by laying on top of the boy and breathing into his mouth, 'Jesus' raises Eleazar/Lazarus from the dead by a spell (e.g. 'Lazarus, step forward !'), whereas Elisha'q raises an expensive iron axe-head from falling into the water & 'Jesus' walks on top of the waters of Lake Gennasareth &tc each time "Jesus' out-does his biblical predecessor.

The same can be said vis a vis David & the 'son of David', i.e. 'Jesus' with respect to 'Jonathan', David's homosexual love-interest in the Books of Samuel ('...and David loved Jonathan as his own life...', 'Jonathan, how my soul aches for you; your love was full of wonderment to me, far-stronger than any love for a woman ! (2 Sam 1:29ff); or Saul's rebuke of Jonathan's cross-dressing ('confusion'): 'You son of a peverted and obscene female ! Do you imagine that I do not know that you have 'chosen to marry' that son-of-Jesse to the confusion of your own mother's nudity and to your own 'confusion'? If you persist [in this folly] how on earth can your royal-lineage be generated?' (1 Sam 20:30), the last passage of which contains 7 rare Hebrew verbs and nouns having to do specifically with homosexuality and cross-dressing.

Whereas David in the 'Old Testament' exchanged vows, armour & underwear with 'John' (='Jonathan'), 'Jesus' in the 4th Gospel is portrayed as a person in a position of authority to have 'a disciple who was his lover' (the word in Greek is 'mathetes', which is grammatically a masculine-singular); that is to say there was someone who is not actually named in the book, but thought to be called 'John' (hence thought to be the author of the whole Gospel) was called 'the disciple whom Jesus was in love-with' who 'reclined' during a pre-pesach meal 'upon the breast of Jesus' sharing whispers--thereby shewing a 'typology' with the earlier ('old-testament') David and his own male-lover Jonathan.

An excised section of the second canonical Greek gospel (called, 'Secret-Mark') discovered in the form of a Greek-shorthand transcript of an Epistle to Theodore (otherwise unknown) by Clement of Alexandria written originally c. 200 CE about the homosexual gnostic sect called the Carpocratians dated c. 1725 plastered to the back of an old book by Vossius in 1646 of writings of Ignatius of Antioch by Morton Smith at the Mar Saba Monastery near the Dead Sea in 1958 details the story of the raising of a naked young man out of a tomb, causing him to 'love him and being clad with only a linen cloth over his naked [body] begs Iesous that he might be with him...and Iesous spent the night with him...' phrases which Clement apparently took to understand that 'those heretics the Carpocratians' were referring to some kind of covert homosexual activity that was going on.

There are many aspects of the earliest Nazorean-Christian baptismal rites which are not known/understood/recorded for posterity, some of which may have included physical male-on-male symbolic actions which to-day's Christians might find surprisingly indecent and wide-open to sexual misinterpretation !



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posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 05:57 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: dug88

Huh, your'e right. You're beliefs about beliefs are sort of ridiculous.


You're right they are. Everything people do is ridiculous. All the things. People are completely and utterly ridiculous. All of us. It's great. The world would be a great place if everyone could accept that and take themselves and everyone and the ridiculous things they do around them a little less seriously...accept that their own beliefs...along with everyone elses are equally ridiculous and in the end important only to themselves and that it's really ok if people around you believe different things than you.
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posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: dug88

I never said it wasn't OK. You are the one who implied faith was ridiculous.

But at the very same time you were mocking belief, you were using a belief to do it which I found to be utterly ironic.

The whole point I suppose is that none of us can truly know what is or is not fully correct. This is why it is called faith, and bless our hearts, but we humans seem to have a powerful need to believe in something ... anything. Even you have your beliefs and can't really deny that if you're being perfectly honest.



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Exactly how does someone know when it is the Holy Spirit and when it is just their own selves???

They can’t because there is no objective way to determine that..

That’s the bad part about the only evidence for religion is the warm and fuzzies..



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: wheresthebody



Not to offend, just for humour.

I actually think what the guy is claiming is his own twisted fantasy.



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: dug88

I never said it wasn't OK. You are the one who implied faith was ridiculous.

But at the very same time you were mocking belief, you were using a belief to do it which I found to be utterly ironic.

The whole point I suppose is that none of us can truly know what is or is not fully correct. This is why it is called faith, and bless our hearts, but we humans seem to have a powerful need to believe in something ... anything. Even you have your beliefs and can't really deny that if you're being perfectly honest.


Ya humans have a need to believe in things. There's nothing wrong with having beliefs. It's when people start assuming their beliefs are right for everybody or that others are wrong for choosing to believe something different because in the end....people are going to believe whatever they believe and because, as you say, it's faith....it is ridiculous. It was more directed at the op who repeatedly said anyone who interprets the Bible in anyway other than with 'the guiding holy spirit' telling you the right way...you're wrong, you should stop reading the Bible and, not in so many words, basically # you. Without seeming to understand that his belief in whatever the # spirit he's babbling on about is equally as ridiculous Lady Jesus foot fetish guy's beliefs.

I have no problem accepting people's beliefs. I have a problem with other people trying to tell people what is correct or incorrect to believe in. My post may come across as irreverent to beliefs in general...because well...I kind of am. People's beliefs are personal...they're all ridiculous and honestly their really no one else's business if someone is trying to tell someone else what they should believe.



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer


Conspiracy Theory!


The left is changing historical earmarks, changing conventional thinking.


If you can convince enough people that;


Jesus was queer
Communism and socialism is good
Capitalism is bad
Freedom is bad
Government is kind and benevolent


Then you can fool the people into anything.



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Wanna see something funny?

Here goes:






posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Absolutely... it is a fundamental problem with basing your belief system o the warm and fuzzies....



posted on Jun, 7 2018 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You mean like “the lost cause” from the civil war rewriting history??



The rightwing daughters of the confederacy literally propagandized a whole generation..


WhT has the left done that waseven remotely that blantant??




Oh that’s right...

You have to believe in bar $/!T crazy conspiracy theories to be a republican these days..







 
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