Will Canada pass the Cannabis bill today?

a reply to: intrepid

Impaired is impaired,I do agree but think it is still a different shovel doing the digging and should not be looked at the same way IMO.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
a reply to: snowspirit


I am also disturbed by the driving aspect as well.
To compare driving on alcohol to driving on marijuana is like comparing a hamster to an elephant.
Its clearly not the same thing and should not be looked at as if it were.

Impaired is impaired. Is it the same? No but there's a difference between cyanide and hemlock. The end result of ingesting them is the same though.

But the thc is still in the blood, days after the impairment happened. If you use it to get sleep at night, you're not still impaired in the morning. But if you get caught in a traffic sting, and they test you, even a week later, vehicle gets impounded, you get a ticket, or jailed, and all sorts of grief. Expensive grief.

It's still too early to know how the law is going to be applied to this type of impaired driving. If they are going to nail people for residual levels that will be easily challenged in the courts. This is a big change and it's going to take a while to work out the bugs.

originally posted by: intrepid
It's still too early to know how the law is going to be applied to this type of impaired driving. If they are going to nail people for residual levels that will be easily challenged in the courts. This is a big change and it's going to take a while to work out the bugs.

What you really are saying is this....TPTB have not had sufficient time to manufacture the data trail or the PEER APPROVED BULLSPIT that they normally use to screw us all....this is not about safety on the road or anywhere else.......this is about fiscalising MJ in new creative ways for the Government and its cronies for they are losing membership in the Prison for Profit scheme and you don't have to have Private prisons to execute a Prison for profit mandate in Canada it is done EXACTY LIKE IT IS DONE IN THE USA but by the Government itself.

They are trying to build a legal superstructure around MJ which will continue to provide them with INCREASED PROFIT...they didn't get into this to lose money or to make the same money they got into this to make MORE MONEY off of the good people.

Simply attempting to frame legal consequences around MJ which in any ways MIRROR alcohol legislation is ASSININE and is EVIDENCE OF CONSPIRACY......there is NO LEGAL ENTITY WITHIN OUR COURTS named Marijuana....it has been kept nameless and without a legal identity to prevent the truths from being formally recognised ....the RESEARCH has been SUPPRESSED for so long that there is now an OVERWHELMNG volume of true tested legitimate data which when flooded into the legal system in the proper manner will completely change how MJ is legislated...this is IF....if IF IF IF....someone with enough money takes a stand privately and forces them into court NOW at the beginning of this process to get this mountain of data detailing the truths of MJ entered into the courts....every week and every month we wait to get them into court their con-job layers of BS are being laid down expeditiously.

MJ is being used as a medication by EVERYONE who imbibes....it IS A MEDICINE....before it is anything else...and this means the PROPER PATH is to FORMALLY AND LEGALLY AKNOWLEDGE AND DEFINE AND PROTECT THE REALITY THAT MJ IS BEING USED MEDICINALLY not RECREATIONALLY....stress relief is a medical issue as are all of the other reasons for using MJ by adults is a so-called recreational manner.....you see the ORIGINAL LIE HERE THAT IT IS BEING USED RECREATIONALLY AND NOT MEDICINALLY.....TPTB NEED US TO WILLINGLY LET THEM DEFINE USE THIS WAY.............Alcohol was A MEDICINE before it was anything else......both Alcohol and MJ are anti-parasitics if used properly ...the THIS IS WHAT TPTB ARE BUSTING THEIR COJONES TO KEEP OUT OF THE FORMAL LEGAL FORUM because the truths will drop big pharma in their tracks ....for once it is entered into the legal system the LIES MUST ALL STOP....and by proxy the directions and nature of MJ legeslation will be parsed seperately from that of Alcohol.

So in a nutshell MJ should be formally accepted and endorsed as a medicine....it should be dispensed as a medicine....Doctors should be FORCED LEGALLY TO ADMIT TO THE THERAPUTIC BENEFITS OF MJ and by proxy BE FORCED TO MAKE MJ AVAILABLE FREELY......on request......and as stated earlier this must be done by formally aknowledging and defining the truths of MJ in a court of law which has never been done yet.

Yes....Mj should be made available to anyone who wishes to use it medicinally....there is nothing wrong with admitting you need medical help for stress or maybe for other issues which lead people to MJ...as is frequently the case with people trying to ladder themselves down from stronger more damaging addictins and drugs...but defining a medicine as a social right is insane and ludicrus....people who have medical issues and who require the theraputic benefits of MJ NEED TO AKNOWLEDGE THIS and they need to step forward and speak up for this......not allow the Governments to suppress the MJ truths further by hiding them underneath layers and layers of decieving social legalisation.

There are many powerfull vested fiscal interest in play with the MJ issue...for example the Canadian Real Estate Board and insurance companies ....people who have made poor decisions and walked the line legally and MILKED the MJ issue for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS....you know...I buy a run down piece of #e house and organised crime puts a small meaningless dysfunctional grow op inside it and 4 months later the hot tip goes to local law enforcement who bust said house as a GROW OP and immediatly the INSURANCE picks up the tab and the dump whch was worthless suddenly gets paid out at market value or completely rebuilt and remediated to a fair market value....this has been done to the tune of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.I havent dug very deeply into the scams they have been pulling and the degrees that they have involved themselves in manipulating and providing decieving data to misdirect existing legeslation and definitions but I am quite sure there is a LOT MORE TO DIG UP....definately Human Rights violations left right and center.

Much like M.A.D.D or Mothers Against Drunk Driving.....they are comitting HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS by constantly and consistantly paying huge dollars to PROPOGATE MSM propoganda in their desperate attempts to PARSE MJ RIGHT ALONGSIDE ALCOHOL...in this process they are taking advantage of the fact MJ data HAS NOT BEEN FORMALLY ENTERED INTO LAWFUL COURTS AS EVIDENCE which defines MJ as a MEDICINE FIRST.....they are in effect instituting a clear PROPOGANDA ACTION and this goes against the grain of seeking support for the formal definition and legal recognition of MJ as the MEDICINE FIRST that it truly is....and this my friends is a direct Human Rights violation engineered specificly against societies most needy most helpless group of people victims of medical distress.....the people we are suppossed to protect with the most vigor are being TARGETED BY ORGANISED SOCIALLY CAMOFLAGED CRIMINALS LIKE M.A.D.D......M.A.D.D is a FISCALLY DRIVEN MACHINE THAT INVESTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR IN PROTECTING ITS OWN IDENTITY AND ITS OWN EXISTANCE...IT HAS BECOME A TPTB FISCALLY SUPPORTED AND DRIVEN MONSTER....and must be remediated ASAP.

There is a lot of work to do on the MJ front and the reality is we need good upstanding concerned people who HATE BEING LIED TO BY THEIR GOVERNMENTS AND OTHER ENTITIES and who BASED SOLELY UPON THESE LIES decide to stand up and INVEST THEIR TIME AND MONEY making Human Rights complaints and making LEGAL MOVES to FORCE THE GOVERNMENTS TO TELL THE TRUTHS IN COURTS OF LAW....BEFORE....they lay down 50 layers of con-job BS propoganda based protection for their continued suppressions.

By the way the Senate HAS NOT CELARED THE WAY for legalisation in Canada the ways it has been anticipated quite yet....if they are smart they will recognise the dynamic I am outlining and consider the longer term consequences which wil INEVITABLY COME FORWARD as the TRUTHS ABOUT MJ ARE ENTERED PROPERLY INTO COURTS OF LAW ON DIFFERENT LEVELS.

Insurance Compamies are going to HAVE TO TAKE THIS ONE FOR THE TEAM.....lol....becaue in reality MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people require the medicinal attributes of MJ and when the truths are officially entered into courts of law then these beestards will finally have to pay up.

One more thought.....in Canada 800,000 square foot facilities are being built to grow MJ....as we can see SOMEONE is FAR AHEAD OF THE CURVE HERE.....and this FITS INTO THE DELAYS WE HAVE SEEN IN CANADA and it also fits into the Senates longevity in finalising anything......you see Lobsangs......the macro-model we are seeing built DOES NOT SUPPORT SOCIAL LEGALISATION....lol...nope it is being built upon an even bigger base.....the legitimate medical reality of MJ....SOMEONE is thinking wayyyy ahead here and they are smart cookies.....all the little Mom and Poppers who think they can muster up a few million together and get into the MJ business legally are DELUDING THEMSELVES....they are being played BIG TIME....because when the rubber hits the road......and legalisation on current terms is 86ed further up the Senates processes....due to this clear and obvious conspiratorial dynamic to keep the truths out of courts I outlined.....only THEM will all of the greedy people wishing to get rich quick realise they are screwed....simply because once the overall framework is changed then social legalisation will not be actioned as we think now.....if you are producing a MEDICINE in your facility there are an entirely new set of parameters you must follow and only the BIGGEST MOST WELL FINANCED AND CONNECTED companies planning to cash in will be able to fulfill the requirements to produce a MEDICINE and to test and clear it......and this means we NOW SEE why they are GROSSLY OVERBUILDING A FEW SELECT PRODUCTION FACILITIES ON A GRAND SCALE.

IMHO mediclly recognised and prescribed MJ will build a VASTLY BIGGER MORE STABLE customer base for said companies one with LONGEVITY as a part of their future.....this is the ONLY WAY BIG PHARMA CAN REPLACE THE MONEY THEY ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO LOSE WHEN THE MJ MEDICINAL ANTI-PARASITICCancer TRUTHS ARE FORMALISED IN COURTS OF LAW...............see the catch here.....BIG PHARMA....NEEDS....to force the MJ truths into courts of law now.....they own both the Insurance Companies and now can own the massive Grow Facilities giving them the global lock they need to replace the old useless pharmacuticals no one will accept soon.

No...MJ could not be patented by TPTB like other Pharma products....so a more complicated management plan was required to lock up the potentially EPIC fiscal prize and then one was created.

The heart of this issue has really been how to transfer the MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MONEY from big pharmas old style pharm based MJ exclusive profit model to todays MJ inclusive potentially more massive model....

The real question to me is this...who is going to TRIGGER THE CANADIAN SENATE to key in on these realities during this last round of considerations before they finalise everything......which HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET......massive changes can be made at any time during the remainder of this process on the Senate level....these are not FORMALITIES the process is still in play here.

At this point in time it seems to me that any attempt to socialise and legalise MJ BEFORE the medicinal reality is addressed and formalised LEGALLY is a DIRECT HUMANS RIGHTS VIOLATION AGAINST CURRENT AND FUTURE MEDICAL PATIENTS BEING ACTIONED BY PROXY BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNENT AND THE CANADIAN SENATE THEMSELVES.....you see if it can be shown that currently tabled legalisation is a tangible vehicle for the continued suppression of MJ truths and the intentional move to prevent it from being formally legally parsed defined and recognised in courts of law by intentionally greying the dynamic by expediting socially demanded legalisation .... well then we might see unexpected changes.

To be frank...I wish to protect children....and socially accepting endorsing and then legalising MJ puts it more easily withn the reach and use of children and youths who are extremely vulnerable to the negative impacts of MJ use when the brain is devloping and when critical social skills are being learned....however truthfull defining legally that MJ is a MEDICINE FIRST along with FORCING THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND DOCTORS TO PRESCRIBE IT ON DEMAND will not only make it much much more difficult for kids to acess MJ it will also help medical patients cover the costs of their therapy via insurance companies....legally......it will also help millions of people enter into a formal medical investigation and begin to recognise they have illnesses which need to be further and more deeply addressed if possible....lets face it man....if you NEED to use MJ for example for stress relief....quite possibly this is a warning sign that you need to make more involved deeper impacting life changes to support your future health and longevity....in simpler terms MJ need may be a good waypoint from which people may be introduced into the medical system to address those symptomologies which led them to require the MJ in the first place....and I do believe many people will eventually use this lead-in to find better health long term.

The endgame is this IMHO....MJ is an all-round wicked anti-parasitic.....when used properly which does not include combustion or vaporising or inhaling it kills the parasites which are a link in the bacterial cancer chain....and parasites are at the heart of ALL OUR ILLNESSES....not only cancer.......now we know WHY this MJ issue is so contentious and so critical to humanity on a global level.

I used to be a Farmer...when my stock didnt drink their water or didnt eat their food or their bowel movements changed dramaticlly.... occurances which I recognised every single day because I WAS TAKING CARE OF THEM DAILY .....I knew they were sick.....and I helped them....with anti-parasitics.....because they were VALUABLE.

People are the same ...ifyou arent drinking normal volumes of good water and if you arent eating normal volumes and types of healthy food and if you BMs are irregular and not normal EVERY DAY.....then you are suffering normally expected parasitic attacks and are sick and you need help...to me you are VALUABLE...not for money but for the future of Humanity....you see there are over 6 billion people on Earth and I believe many BILLIONS can not read or write like we can or can acess the internet like we can and who can express themselves and effect change on a global level like we can....so EVERYONE is valuabel....but my friends we must concede that we are the prize members of the herd like it love it or lump it....we are IT.......so we must value each other accurately and we have a responsibility to humanity to try harder to help those not as fortunate as we are in terms of potentials to make positive changes on behalf of everyone.

Many things are good natural food sources of anti-parasitic relief like MJ is....however MJ is able to neutralise the entire spectrum of parasitic influences at one time....where as one requires many different lesser impactfull sources of anti-parasitic foods if they do not use a cure-all type....like MJ is.....

Parasites are NORMAL and every living creature on Earth has a naturally occuring normal symbiotic relationship with them ....you can now GET PISSED OFF THAT NO ONE TAUGHT YOU THIS IN SCHOOL ..... and certain normally occurring food bourne parasites carry bacteria which are able to morph themselves into cancer machines....and trust me the reason these parasite ridden foods arent talked about is the TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS THEY MAKE PEOPLE EVERY YEAR.

a reply to: one4all

There is no "prison for profit" in Canada. The Correctional system is a necessary drain on the public funds. There's no net return. As for the rest of course it's for money. I've said as much. The outgoing Liberal gov't in Ontario is shutting down existing dispensaries and is only going to sell it via provincial outlets. IE: The LCBO. Lord knows what the incoming Conservative gov't is going to do but I don't see them being any friendlier to the market.

I don't care is you want to say MJ is a medicine. Many things are and they are used for recreational purposes. See the opioid problem we all have. There's no conspiracy. The gov't want that dough from the huge MJ market. THAT is the driving force in thi move to legalize. There's another discussion here on the possible uses of MJ.

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: one4all

There is no "prison for profit" in Canada. The Correctional system is a necessary drain on the public funds. There's no net return. As for the rest of course it's for money. I've said as much. The outgoing Liberal gov't in Ontario is shutting down existing dispensaries and is only going to sell it via provincial outlets. IE: The LCBO. Lord knows what the incoming Conservative gov't is going to do but I don't see them being any friendlier to the market.

I don't care is you want to say MJ is a medicine. Many things are and they are used for recreational purposes. See the opioid problem we all have. There's no conspiracy. The gov't want that dough from the huge MJ market. THAT is the driving force in thi move to legalize. There's another discussion here on the possible uses of MJ.

Yes there is and I already stated it is not profit going to private individuals like in the American Models but it is profit in the form of demanded dollars forced from the peoples pockets which different political entities use to ensure fiscal rewards in different geographical and societal areas and areas....they use these dollars or PROFIT to manipulate the people politiclly....it doesn't matter if it is Private groups or Government Groups pulling off the same con-job....it is Prison for profit....and we can add the impacts sympathetic to the big legal machine and all of its levels from civil enforcement to Lawyers to Judges ect.. which is a Government catalysed job creation entity to itself....

Yes friend...there is a conspiracy because Opiods will not prevent cancer and all illnesses but MJ can and does.

The Governments will not receive the bulk of the dollars produced by MJ sales on a recreational level....they will skim off the top via taxes....and my god what a scam it is turning out to be...lol....municipalities all over DEMANDING MONEY FROM THE FEDS so they can PREPARE FOR LEGALISATION....lol...lol...even asking for MILLIONS to re-train Law Enforcement...what the hell....re-train Law Enforcement....lol...you see everyone is pulling on the fiscal teats at once now....like a bunch of greedy hungry piglets.

However if things are done proerly...as in FULL STOP TO LEGALISATION NOW AT THE SENATE LEVEL....and the medical reality of MJ is made the PRIMARY FOCUS and the LEGAL SYSTEM is used to IMBED this reality....then ...LMAO....ROFLMAO...then the Government gets no more tax dollars than they do from any other pharmacutical medicine.....and the Doctors can then readily re-route the BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of lost big pharma dollars right back to TPTB .....and TPTB get to cut the Government levels of profiteering right out of the picture.

One of the keyway arguements is over the Home-Cultivation...which equates to HOME EDUCATION....you see the MJ truths are coming out now like it or not....if you can home grow you can control the GENETICS of what you are producing and then GMOed MJ will not be fed to you....if home-growing is outlawed then there is a window for monopolisation of the MJ gene-pool and GMOing out of the anit-parasitic impacts of the plant people buy in stores.....like Monsanto is trying to do with Vegetables so we are all defieient in vitamines and minerals.

The really big money is MUCH bigger than the Governments money....and these big players simply need to see the light of the future to understand why they need to seek to support the Canadain Senate in a FULL-STOP immediatly until the medical recognition on a legal level is initiated....which will in effect PRECLUDE any chances of social legalisation.....lol....lol...you see now TPTB NEED to support the medical realities of MJ to avoid losing the bulk of their money when the truths come out soon and they cannot give away their medicines and pills ...they need to beat the Governments to the punch....exactly as I outlined....they need to FORMALLY CORNER the fiscal reality of MJs medicinal values to replace the BS ones they contrived with their other Pharmacuticals....this is THE ONLY WAY they can keep their dollars flowing in seamlessly....now is the time TPTB need to use their BIGGER THAN ANY GOVERNMENT INFLUENCE to put a nail in Canadas attempts to steal their dollars and they do this by immediatly initiating legal proceedings to inform or stop the Senate from carrying forward before the Medical reality of MJ is officially and legally embedded and dealt with....and as I said this action by proxy of truths being formalised in court will STOP SOCIAL LEGALISATION and will re-rout ALL THE MONEY THE TRUTHS WILL TAKE FROM ONE AREA BACK TO TPTB via prescribed and insurance company paid for MJ and will make MJ easily available to all adults on demand from their doctors...and it will stop MJ from harming our kids and our countries productivity both short and long term.

There you have it...someone go get em...help them explore the bigger picture....there IS A WAY to keep everyone except the Governments happy...Money stays with TPTB and true better health comes to the People and Children and Country are protected...but the drug dealers and Governments get bupkiss........I can handle this....TPTB get to keep their coin and in return we get to live healthier and longer..and the Governments get it in the pie-hole....we were NEVER GOING TO GET THE DOLLARS FROM TPTB anyways and this way at least we get truths and good health and longer lives.....in fact longevity will then be in the BEST INTERESTS of TPTB because people who live longer need more MJ which at this point has a complete lock in terms of legally prescribed Pharma.TPTB can farm fewer of us for longer....and this takes pressure off of the planet as a whole.

a reply to: one4all

You have to step back from the conspiratorial ledge. Prisons are a drain on the public coffers. Not a profitable business. I don't care how many words you use, I work in this industry. Read that thread on the uses of MJ. Research into the medicinal value of MJ is going to crank up. Legalization isn't going to impede this. It will accelerate it. You know the gov't does get one right now and then.

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: one4all

You have to step back from the conspiratorial ledge. Prisons are a drain on the public coffers. Not a profitable business. I don't care how many words you use, I work in this industry. Read that thread on the uses of MJ. Research into the medicinal value of MJ is going to crank up. Legalization isn't going to impede this. It will accelerate it. You know the gov't does get one right now and then.

No one should step back on this issue everyone should step forward.

The drain is engineered and of course it can be graphed....it has always escalated....as per the template being utilised by our uber- managers....more pressure on public coffers means more dollars needed....which means more lifeblood taken from the common man and woman and their children and given to the SYSTEM so it may SELF-SUSTAIN not for their best interests but IN SPITE OF their best interests....our ultimate goal is for a working system to REDUCE THE NEED FOR ITS VERY EXISTANCE...the goal of its creation was not for it to become self-sustaining and eternal in nature and out of control in action.Of course we see artificial strains put on these systems...but wake up man....whenever we remove one source of strain another greater one seems to pop up like a mushroom on a #e pile........ this is ARTIFICIAL SOCIAL ENGINEERING.....why do you think they are trying to parse MJ use alongside Alcohol use...for christsakes everyone and their donkey knows how diametrically different MJ and Alcohol are ON EVERY LEVEL...but you see kiddo these guys need the legal dynamics to continue unabated with NO LOSSES OF INPUTS....lol....lol...hence incoming CONTRIVED BS legeslations like MJ driving laws and other associated laws which parse MJ with Alcohol and continue to feed a steady flow of people/money into the existing self-sustaining monster system.

Speaking from legally sanctioned experience my friend ALL THE RESEARCH ON MJ HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE AND SUPPRESSED....and to even hear someone claim otherwise is IMHO willfull ignorance .....legalisation ABSOLUTELY IMPAIRS the path to proper classification and legal recognition of MJ as a MEDICINE and an INSURABLE MEDICINE AT THAT....and this means pal that a bazillion bits of data and research done must be formally and suitably entered into COURTS OF LAW....before anything else can be done.....and NO the Government didn't get this one right at all IMHO.

originally posted by: snowspirit
a reply to: DrumsRfun

I'm disturbed by the driving aspect of this. They're putting the legal blood levels so low, and the cops have no clue, except maybe in BC, we'll be illegal if we smoke or eat an edible and then drive within the next month...

I'm quite sure they don't yet have a test that tells that consumption was in the last few hours. It's more like "if the cop feels like you might be high".

Blood tests could take most of Canada off the road.....

That's exactly the problem. I'm no expert, but I've heard that THC takes a very long time to metabolize and stays in your system for up to eight days after just one use? Is that accurate? Either way, I know that it's nothing like alcohol; with alcohol you can have one or two beers, piss them out, and be safely driving three or four hours later. With weed on the other hand, you could smoke a little bit to get you moderately buzzed, wait a few hours for it to wear off and feel cognitively normal again, but you'd still be legally impaired because the THC is still coursing around in your bloodstream. In the eyes of the law, you basically won't be allowed to drive if you've smoked in the last 24 hours, or maybe even more than that.

originally posted by: Xaphan

originally posted by: snowspirit
a reply to: DrumsRfun

I'm disturbed by the driving aspect of this. They're putting the legal blood levels so low, and the cops have no clue, except maybe in BC, we'll be illegal if we smoke or eat an edible and then drive within the next month...

I'm quite sure they don't yet have a test that tells that consumption was in the last few hours. It's more like "if the cop feels like you might be high".

Blood tests could take most of Canada off the road.....

That's exactly the problem. I'm no expert, but I've heard that THC takes a very long time to metabolize and stays in your system for up to eight days after just one use? Is that accurate? Either way, I know that it's nothing like alcohol; with alcohol you can have one or two beers, piss them out, and be safely driving three or four hours later. With weed on the other hand, you could smoke a little bit to get you moderately buzzed, wait a few hours for it to wear off and feel cognitively normal again, but you'd still be legally impaired because the THC is still coursing around in your bloodstream. In the eyes of the law, you basically won't be allowed to drive if you've smoked in the last 24 hours, or maybe even more than that.

Now GET UP AND SCREAM for the innocent people who will receive punishment up to criminal records and imprisonment ...while they work out the kinks of how they will screw us all even more....there simply IS NO PARALELL WITH ALCOHOL THEREFORE THERE CAN BE NO PARALELL LEGESLATION BROUGHT FORWARD WHEN CONSIDERING MJ INFLUENCES ON DRIVERS...….even ALLOWING THEM TO DISCUSS THESE TYPES OF LAWS is a HUGE MISTAKE BY THE PEOPLE...for they will KNOWINGLY institute and enforce and seek punishments for these legal dynamics not caring who they hurt even when they have due reasons to believe there has been no crime committed.....the only solution is IMMEDIATE AND VIGOROUS AND SERIOUS LITIGATION....either in a Group Class Action or by someone with the cash to see it through....to stop them IMMEDIATLY.


There is a Template used at every level of government to screw the people...different levels work back and forth to screw us all....in Canada it is a common con-job to have Civic Councils institute Civil By-Laws which loosely and FRAUDULENTLY interpret federal legeslations to favor Law enforcements SOP ABBROGATION OF THE PEOPLES CHARTER RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS.....Canada has seen horrible things happen because of this illegal manouver by tasked and paid Employees of the People.....in one case a man was following federally legislated Guidelines exactly BUT he was contraveneing Fraudulently intended and instituted Civil By-Laws that IGNORED HIGHER STANDING FEDERAL LAWS and it resulted in multiple deaths that IMHO the Municipalities and federal Governing bodies are responsible for.....this man was carrying a rifle on a municipal street transporting it from one place to another ,he had no car,the rifle was not loaded and was legally being transported according to Federal Laws however a woman in her Kitchen saw him on the street with a gun and immediately called 911 which triggered the involvement of the Civil Police who responded with ALL RED FLAGS RAISED and the standard Law Enforcement agenda of INTENTIONAL ESCALATION ASAP UNTIL THE FIRST SIGNS OF AGGRESION THE FORCES LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS ADVISED THEM TO LOOK FOR UNTIL THIS AGENDA IS MET AND A GUN BATTLE ERUPTS THEN KILL THE PERSON WITH THE GUN and do not worry because your arse is always covered.....you see this guy was confronted by Civil Police who had been forced via this illegally implemented COLLUSIONAL dynamic to respond to a By-Law that FORCED THE SITUATION TO EXIST....an ILLEGAL BY-LAW.....the POLICE WERE VIOLATING THE MANS FEDERALLY STATED RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS and technically he legally defended himself.....several Officers were killed during this incident....then.....as per the con-job they charged him with first the Civivc By_law infractions and then the Criminal charges....HOWEVER they sucked him into PLEA BARGAIN WHERE HE PLEAD GUILTY ON EVERYTHING before his Lawyers could get things in a court of Law to first challenge the illegal By-Laws and then disenfranchise the entire criminal case based on this.... and then hand it over to Civil litigation lawyers who could rip apart some deep pockets on behalf of the Officers and the wrongly charged and convicted Citizen.....here is a very clear and CONCRETE RECORD of MANY MANY instances where when challenged to the point of being formally broughtinto a court of law these By-Law charges are SOP dropped to AVOID THE DISCLOSURE OF THE ILLEGALITY OF THE ENTIRE SCHEME.


In Canada in some jurisdictions concerns over cell phone use causing auto accidents was ralled upon by groups who asked municipalities to sanction expedited By-Laws surrounding Cell phone use WHILE DRIVING which would enable Police to legally stop and question and potentially search charge arrest and detain you....but during this process the By-Laws were changed to DISTRACTED DRIVING BY-LAWS which were REPRESENTED TO THE PEOPLE AS BEING THE SAME AS CELL PHONE BY-LAWS...when in reality the con-job FRAUD ARTIST CRIMINALS instituted an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SET OF BY-LAWS which addressed ANY MOVEMENT A POLICE OFFICER SEES YOU MAKE IN YOUR AUTO AS BEING POTENTIALLY DISTRACTING...and in ILLEGAL EFFECT...allowing Police to ABBROGATE ILLEGALLY EVERY SINGLE CANADAINS CHARTER RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS IN COMPLETENESS...…...meaning in short that the Police can pull you over in your car and pull you out and question you and search you and search your auto and arrest you and detain you ANY TIME THEY WANT TO.....NOT ONLY WHEN YOU ARE USING A CELL PHONE WHILE DRIVING...….and the con-job frauds did this because Police forces are lazy and do not want to do their job legally and properly as they now have ABBROGATED NORMAL POLICE INVESTIGATIONS in favor of MASS TRAFFIC STOPS which net them more criminals than their investigations used to do BECAUSE AS LONG AS THEY CATCH ANYONE IN THEIR AUTO THEY HAVE NO FEDERAL OR OTHER RIGHTS BY PROXY...….they are KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY BREAKING THE LAW TO ENFORCE THE LAW.

There are literally thousands of instances like this you can research and you can use to build a clear cut concrete case for collisional illegal behaviour my some very very large groups at some very very high levels.....and really they cannot erase the records and they are ll as guilty as hades....sooner or later they will answer for their crimes.

Most people don't know that ALL CANADIANS HAVE A FEDERALLY STATED RIGHT TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUNS any time they wish to......but this illegal manouver used to ABBROGATE FEDERAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS was used COLLUSIINALLY by the provinces via the COLLSIONAL creation of Provincial Firearms officers who could enact knownglyand willingly ILLEGAL By_laws they could use to ARBITRARILY DENY ANY PERMITS ON A PROVINCIAL LEVEL IRREGARDLESS OF SUPERIOR FEDERAL EXISTING LEGESLATIONS ...they did this to fool and screw all Canadians into thinking they could not exercise this RIGHT AND FREEDOM.