The Wall Street Journal: “American Job Openings Now Outnumber the Jobless”

originally posted by: Mach2
a reply to: Justoneman

Very well said.

I'm willing to pay a little more for some things. If that's one of the things that go along with a booming economy, count me in.

Free market works unless someone is allowed to cheat like the Pol's do with pork and lobbyist. Not over taxing us allows to keep more of our money. We do that we can spend it and usually do. Then others get jobs because we have spent more money. Then that propels them to get off welfare, be able to pay taxes and also contribute a product for others to consume in the process. Win/win for all of us because all ships rise as the tide rolls in. Everyone's life improves for it.

a reply to: xuenchen

This must be extremely troubling to progressive socialists. How are we ever going to find our utopia if the workforce is not depressed and down trodden? I think I can honestly say that this is the first time in a while that I am proud to be American. Thanks for the good news, S & F!

a reply to: Mach2

Lol. Probably so

I'm not sure who is making the stats.
I know wsj isn't going to report the sky is falling though.

a reply to: sine.nomine

Now there you go, you just found the truth. Good work.

Read how they do the survey.

That system is waaaay to easy to manipulate figures with.

"Things are great, just ask our few selected businesses, they are politics free, we would never use them for artificial jobs numbers to look good."

Trust us, we love you@

a reply to: olaru12

You mean illegal slave labor

a reply to: Mandroid7

So in reading the thread so far, nothing new in liberal responses to good economic news when they are not in power.

1./ We don't like the numbers, so the numbers are fake.

2./ We don't like the numbers, so they effect (insert victim class here).

3./ We don't like the numbers, so let's just derail the thread.

Interesting that they don't actually care about Americans at all... just hope for failure so they can expand their victim base.

originally posted by: olaru12
And crops are rotting in the field because all the cheap labor has been deported....

How much inflation are you willing to take?

www.nbcnews.com...

Yet a $15 "living wage" coast to coast was a fantastic idea, amirite? :rolleyes: Please, watch as the market shows politicians the magic of butting the hell out of micromanaging HR departments from afar.

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: olaru12

You mean illegal slave labor

Is that back in play now?

a reply to: xuenchen


Finally we get those "shovel ready" jobs that Obama promised...plus a few million more.

a reply to: Mandroid7

But it's the same indicator, so it has some value.

the only way for this to be true is for there to be real wage growth, if the numbers come out and there's no real wage growth this is bull#

a reply to: Lumenari

Yeah, there is a large chunk of people and bot influence creating a bunch of political religious people who want a team win even if it ends the world.

I'm lean towards parties being intentional division both creating more power for the gov.
The increase is always bad or real bad, their win either way.

My whole point was that math isn't a feeling, and this article sounds stupid using actual figures like that.

Math is pretty absolute, not fuzzy feel good bs.

12.4754 million people agree with me (for example)

I can and do hope there is an acual upward increase in jobs, we need it bad.

In my mind the best news would be a the corporate news absolutely going into panic mode, because WE are the one's making the jobs, not a massive migration back to the crappy corporate wage slave world of income inequality we have been getting hosed by since the 70's.

This story will be tough to figure out because it's the wsj as well, so they have a dog in the fight for market confidence. Like their entire existance.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

It does, I'm not claiming it's not an indicator at all. The accuracy of the math is questionable.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
I like optimism, but this is bs math

Neither numbers are accurate.

We know unemployment isn't even posted honestly.

Also, how'd they come up with job openings number?

You don't register anywhere when your hiring that can collect the numbers.

What, did they read all the craigslist posts, seperate the duplicates, add jobs.com, all local newspapers, websites, etc, then add up the totals?

No, they pulled the numbers out of their you know whats.

"The market is booming, please, please, please invest in our rigged game, before our gravy train runs off the track" should be the title.

I would like to see a massive jump in small business blowing out the big corporations, not a bunch of slave wage openings.

Celebrating the same direction we have been going with work is not really a win.

Hopefully it's semi-true that jobs are increasing and not just a bs consumer confidence fake-math attempt.

It may be a BS story, yet I need 5 electricians, 2 plumbers, and 2 HVAC techs to start immediately, and I get few applicants that can pass a drug screen or pass a simple trade test. The jobs are there. The trained people aren't. The competition that I talk to are finding similar results.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xuenchen


Finally we get those "shovel ready" jobs that Obama promised...plus a few million more.

Dug with shovels made in the USA !!

😎

a reply to: Metallicus

Can’t imagine what they’ll say if world peace ever broke out during Trumps 8yrs. CNN: “Thousands of defense contractors and military members are now unemployed and losing their benefits and belongings due to the anti military policies enacted by President Trump...”

It’s like the fake liberal left is incapable of being positive about anything unless their team does it.

a reply to: xuenchen

Hopefully it will drive wage movement

a reply to: Nickn3

Skilled labor is totally different subject though.
There has been a "go to college, not trades" push for as long as I can remember. At least the 80's.
It's looked down upon as low class work now.

Trust me I live it, from union carpenter, to residential and commercial gc, to various small businesses in the industry, now I am investing and hiring subs daily.

Are you a general then? It's going to be tougher to hire a guy from all the specific trades vs teaming up with the local subs, the union training plays a big part in that issue since they train the most of these guys.

I guess it really depends on the size of projects you are dealing with, pretty much stuck dealing with unions on huge projects, but you can save major bucks going local with small biz partnerships.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: xuenchen

Hopefully it will drive wage movement

well, if it doesn't than we know something is up, the labor force participation rate went down last quarter so I'm not sure what that means

without wage growth none of this matter, the debt to income ratio is totally out of control and most state and city funded pensions are getting ready to end

there are bad/ good economic indicator's so it's very hard to see what's really going on but something changed when Trump became president I know that for a fact

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: xuenchen

Hopefully it will drive wage movement

If true, it has to as supply side economics. The needy pay more for the best.