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Trump grants clemency to Great Grandmother

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posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

That would be Kim Kardashian. You didn't know that rose to fame through her porn? Sorry, I'm not going to link it for you. Do your own search.



I Know who she is, I know about her sex tape, I know people make mistakes in today's world of 24/7 photos and video.

PORN STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In 2003, 23-year-old Kim Kardashian did something she would regret years later: She made a sex tape with her then-boyfriend, musician Ray J. Four years later, the tape was leaked and sold on the Internet.





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posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: nwtrucker


I'm sure that there are hundreds of similar cases languishing in the Pardon Office that Trump hasn't even thought to look at, because they don't have a porn star with connections to play to Trump's ego to get the pardon to happen. Sad.


Then why not head out and start looking through cases in your state and find ones worthy of evaluation for pardon and start that ball rolling? Seems you have an issue with the messenger in this case being a celeb. So be the everyday joe individual that stands up to try and make a difference.

I'm sure you won't do that because it'd be too much work and ultimately no one would listen, right? The quickest way to make nothing happen is to do nothing. Too easy these days to be an armchair warrior and criticize others while doing nothing yourself.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: Subrosabelow


My issue is not with Kim Kardashian, it's with Trump's abuse of his pardon power. I'm not a 10, or even a 6 on Trump's #able scale, so I'm sure he's never see me even if I had a really tear jerker of tale about some unlucky sot, for him to consider anything coming from me.

While I don't have a problem with the actual pardon, I do have a problem in the way which it was granted.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: nwtrucker


I'm sure that there are hundreds of similar cases languishing in the Pardon Office that Trump hasn't even thought to look at, because they don't have a porn star with connections to play to Trump's ego to get the pardon to happen. Sad.



Some people grumble about roses having thorns. Others celebrate thorns having roses.

I guess it just depends on perspective...but being so negative can't be healthy.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero




I Know who she is, I know about her sex tape, I know people make mistakes in today's world of 24/7 photos and video.


Oh! You think that Kim Kardashian made a mistake by doing porn? I don't and I bet she nor Kanye do either. I bet Donald Trump doesn't think so either, especially since his wife did her share of porn too. Was it a mistake for Melania to do porn? Would she have hooked her husband if she never had? More importantly, would this grandmother have her pardon if Kim Kardashian never had?



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha




Trump's abuse of his pardon power.


When did this happen? Explain specifically how he abused this power.




I'm not a 10, or even a 6 on Trump's #able scale


What does this have to do with anything?




so I'm sure he's never see me even if I had a really tear jerker of tale about some unlucky sot, for him to consider anything coming from me.


What a patently idiotic statement. Where's your self-respect?




I do have a problem in the way which it was granted.


Which way is that?

Do you even know anything about the pardon process?

Did you even know that it is a process?
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posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Subrosabelow


My issue is not with Kim Kardashian, it's with Trump's abuse of his pardon power. I'm not a 10, or even a 6 on Trump's #able scale, so I'm sure he's never see me even if I had a really tear jerker of tale about some unlucky sot, for him to consider anything coming from me.

While I don't have a problem with the actual pardon, I do have a problem in the way which it was granted.



If you have no issue with Kim K, then why did you insult her by calling her a "porn star"?

And do you typically discount the totality because you deduct points for style? Baby....bathwater...that kinda thing?



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

This is just what unsophisticated and emotionally immature people think is a debate.

I've never read more asinine statements than these we are replying to.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn



When did this happen? Explain specifically how he abused this power.


Here are 2 examples.

Joe Arpaio’s Pardon Is Trump’s Gravest Abuse of Power Yet nymag.com...

What to Make of Trump’s Pardon of Scooter Libby? www.lawfareblog.com...



What does this have to do with anything?


It was suggested that I take up pardon case myself. I'm no Kim Kardashian. Trump won't see me.



Which way is that?


Through a porn star celebrity ass-kissing.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
Oh! You think that Kim Kardashian made a mistake by doing porn? I don't and I bet she nor Kanye do either. I bet Donald Trump doesn't think so either, especially since his wife did her share of porn too. Was it a mistake for Melania to do porn? Would she have hooked her husband if she never had? More importantly, would this grandmother have her pardon if Kim Kardashian never had?



I'm not sure what you are asking....lol What is up with the "everyone is a porn star thing"

I think kids today make a lot of mistakes with the camera.

Are you also saying Melania is a porn star too? Is being a model porn? You seem to be obsessed with porn and see a little porn stars in all of us, I'm not sure if that is a healthy frame of mind...



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




If you have no issue with Kim K, then why did you insult her by calling her a "porn star"?


Kim Kardashian pornos are still popular. Why is calling a porn star a porn star and insult?



And do you typically discount the totality because you deduct points for style? Baby....bathwater...that kinda thing?


I don't believe, by any means, that this pardon was granted because of Trump's empathy or passionate plight for justice.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Here are 2 examples.

Joe Arpaio’s Pardon Is Trump’s Gravest Abuse of Power Yet nymag.com...

What to Make of Trump’s Pardon of Scooter Libby? www.lawfareblog.com...



Have you ever reviewed Obama's pardons...there are a lot of head scratcher there, but then we do not know the whole story in their cases.


Once again why all the hate in this, everyone sees it as a good thing, why can't you and just leave it as that, and move on to something else you can hate about Trump.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero




Are you also saying Melania is a porn star too? Is being a model porn?


It's a well known fact that Melanie did porn when she was younger. Do you have a problem with porn stars?



You seem to be obsessed with porn and see a little porn stars in all of us


Trump is obsessed with porn stars. He married one, and he had affairs with at least two that we know of. And now, we pardoned a convict because of a porn star's request.
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posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

So she's a porn star (to you) who successfully lobbied on behalf of a worthy cause. Do you think West Hollywood will give her the Key to the City?



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: underpass61




Do you think West Hollywood will give her the Key to the City?


I think Trump gave her a key, wink wink.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:15 PM
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I like seeing this -- long term prison sentences for non-violent drug offenses need to stop. This was a very serious offense as the woman was a part of a coc aine drug trafficking ring, she wasn't a dime bag salesman trying to make ends meet -- still, non-violent is non-violent.

I truly hope this sets some precedent with the DoJ and I hope Jeff Sessions takes note from all the Americans supporting this decision to pardon.

Pardoning some people and imprisoning others for the same offenses will be seen as HIGHLY hypocritical.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: underpass61




Do you think West Hollywood will give her the Key to the City?


I think Trump gave her a key, wink wink.

Wow, wow...! Job done.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: Kharron




Pardoning some people and imprisoning others for the same offenses will be seen as HIGHLY hypocritical.


Right. And Jeff Sessions has instructed law enforcement to show no tolerance and to throw the book at non-violent drug offenders. Trump's policy on drug abuse is equally hypocritical.
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posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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Funny that Obama did not do it before he left office, he denied it. That shows us that Obama is not what many people believe he is. Obama may believe only people who will need a lawyer again in the future should be given a break.



posted on Jun, 6 2018 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: Jonjonj


Well, it seems that Melania has closed shop.




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