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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: dug88
don't know, I live in the US...
if they have kids and are very low income, ya, they will get a small amount of money.
but, then there is food stamps, medicaid, wic, rental assistance, child care subsidies, transportation assistance, free phone service, and, I am sure that I am missing a few that they may also be eligible for depending on weather their are children in the picture and the ages of those children.
the fact that we have so many on these boards complaining that they can't afford their health insurance, which, has such things as deductibles that have to be met and co pays, which I don't believe medicaid does kind of tells me that the amount you are giving isn't close to what is true at least in the US. heck, we'd have a heck of alot bigger problem with homelessness if the amount was $540/mo since you'll be lucky to find a two bedroom apartment for less than that... and like I said, you wouldn't be getting any cash unless you had a minor child with you.
For joblessness I would provide no money instead:
A Bunk is a government run hostel/ Barracks with clean but communal living arrangements like showers and toilets.
3 basic meals a day that gives the needed nutrients and calories. Food designed for cost effectiveness not taste.
If your on hard drugs you don't get in unless in rehab.
If you steal or commit acts of violence/sexual assault you get kicked out and left to starve, provided the police don't get you first.
Must have contraceptives injections until you leave.
originally posted by: icanteven
a reply to: ketsuko
I'm not an economist, so I don't know the best approach to perfecting our union from an economic perspective.
In the system that I am adovcating, the middle class will be able to live a life with fewer risks. I don't buy into the garbage that people will become lazy all of the sudden once a full safety net and universal standard of living is put in place.
You're always going to have ambitious people. I would argue that you will see more American ambition under my system. Some people hold back from reaching their potential today because they will lose medicaid if they even attempt to work. That's ridiculous for a country as wealthy as ours.
A universal high standard of living would unlock an entreprenureal spirit the likes we have never seen.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: icanteven
Like I outlined before - the system is set up to trap you on it so you become dependent.
I am not in favor of a system that provides everything you need. People should be encouraged to provide for themselves. No one owes you anything in life, but a system that provides what you need encourages you think you are owed just that.
You certainly seem to think so.
And I ask again ... if everyone is owed a basic income to sustain them, where does that money come from? Who is making it?
What of value is being produced to sustain that?