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Statues. . . the new hate speech

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posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: DBCowboy


The point is, these statues just aren't historically or culturally important in the streets. Are they?
There are plenty of statues over the years that get removed because they don't have a purpose or meaning.
If these were actual Civil War commemorations, then I would agree with you. They aren't.

Do you think that every single statue someone erects in a town ought to stay there, exactly where they put it without ever being moved, replaced or anything, forever?


To carry it to the extreme? Of course not. But how often are statues NOT commemorating the civil war torn down?

I'd say hardly any if at all.

Statues are being torn down for the same reason censorship exists, because some find it offensive.

No other reason than that.




posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Not sure why I should care.

People should have the choice to decide what they want displayed in their local communities, whether it be a statue or any other public display.

That is the freedom of the people to choose for themselves.

Removing a statue does not change history. It does not change what people are taught about history.

The only thing it does do is become a talking point for people to bash others over the head with.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

The whole point of taking down the statues is going right over your head.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: introvert


People can vote for anything. They could even vote to have all their rights stripped if they so choose.

To vote, to encourage censorship, though is not something I am in favor of.

Apparently some are.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 08:39 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: DBCowboy

The whole point of taking down the statues is going right over your head.


Not at all.

The statues offended some people so they want to tear them down.

Just like some books offend people and they want them burned.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

It's the context of the statues and what they represent. It has nothing to do with being offended.
Yes people are offended, but when majority of the population that sees them on a daily basis is, something isn't right.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

The point is though, that those statues were originally put up as a protest against treating all Americans equally. Weren't they?
It's not like they were erected in the memory of those who fought for the South.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 08:56 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: RowanBean
1,700 remaining. Wake me up when they remove all of them.


Leave the statues up but paint them blood red, the color of the blood of slaves.


My orange blood is repulsed by your blood discrimination.

Bloodist.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: SprocketUK

Would you burn, "Mein Kompf"?

Burning and removing Mein Kampf are two different things.



Bull#.

You seriously think that's the same thing? One is completely destroying a book and the other one is just a simple relocation.


Like people... Oh but where will you relocate people with whom you disagree?

Big huts with chimney stacks?

the mind boggles.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: SummerRain

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: RowanBean
1,700 remaining. Wake me up when they remove all of them.


Leave the statues up but paint them blood red, the color of the blood of slaves.


My orange blood is repulsed by your blood discrimination.

Bloodist.


Donald, is that you?



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy



People can vote for anything. They could even vote to have all their rights stripped if they so choose.


Sure. That is the price of freedom. You need to be informed enough to vote wisely.

Not sure how that is comparable to choosing whether or not a statue should be displayed, though.



To vote, to encourage censorship, though is not something I am in favor of.


You also believe in certain forms of censorship. The difference is, you're just not honest about it.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: introvert

You're wrong, but I see that it hasn't stopped you from promoting and desiring censorship.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy



You're wrong


About what? Be specific.



but I see that it hasn't stopped you from promoting and desiring censorship.


Where did I promote or desire censorship?

Please provide a quote.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 09:20 AM
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I will just leave this here. It's a story about all the statues and memorials to Jimmy Saville that got removed.www.mirror.co.uk...

Was it a crime against freedom of expression too?



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: SprocketUK

It's really not comparable, but I'll give it a shot here.

Perhaps instead of tearing it down and erasing all evidence of Saville, additional signs could be posted on or near the memorials to educate and illuminate what he really was.

I see a big problem when society in general chooses to erase information, hide information instead of educating and illuminating.


Knowledge is power. And all we're doing is disarming ourselves and denying ourselves a wealth of information all under the guise of offense.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

And I see a problem with people reading statues. The decommission of those symbols of opression is doing more good for the education than it actually erases "all evidence of Saville". You guys use statues in order to save data in your historical archives as well, or what?

How much will I have to drink in order to swallow that book comparision? A statue aint knowledge either. Geez. You folks really could use more education than "that, what's inscribed on statues and beer cans" ...




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posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

It's thinking like this that will see the banning of the American flag because it represents oppression.

Censorship by any other name. . . . .



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

And now we Antifa terrorists burn flags as well?

Dude, it's called a spliff! Move that goal post back for me, will ya?



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

What you are presenting is itself a false equivalence and straw man.



posted on Jun, 5 2018 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: DBCowboy

What you are presenting is itself a false equivalence and straw man.


No.

It is not.

Have a wonderful day.




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