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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Gryphon66
" He needs to get over his irrational squeamishness,"
Seems the same could be said of the Customer . What , a Gay Bakery Not Good Enough for HimShe ?
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Gryphon66
" He needs to get over his irrational squeamishness,"
Seems the same could be said of the Customer . What , a Gay Bakery Not Good Enough for HimShe ?
I don't disagree with you. Or the two sides could have come to a reasonable compromise.
But no, both sides were used in a political power-play.
13 All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. 2 So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves. 3 Those who do right do not have to fear the rulers; only those who do wrong fear them. Do you want to be unafraid of the rulers? Then do what is right, and they will praise you. 4 The ruler is God’s servant to help you. But if you do wrong, then be afraid. He has the power to punish; he is God’s servant to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must yield to the government, not only because you might be punished, but because you know it is right.
Romans 13: 1-5
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Teikiatsu
It always comes back to the small towns, doesn't it? It's almost like there aren't things called phones, vehicles or the internet.
You'd be surprised. Go visit WV sometimes.
Also, there is no faith I am aware of that says you will not serve standard meals to sinners, and serving a standard meal is not a participation in their choice to live in sin.
Did you just admit that the baker was in the wrong?
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Edumakated
Secondly, if a company doesn't want my money, I am going to take my business elsewhere.
I completely agree with this statement. When I ran my business I liked money, if it was green I didn't care what your personal life details were.
The 7-2 ruling surprises me, I had a feeling they would side with the baker in a 5-4 but this was not expected on my end. The use of the word 'narrowly' in the article is misleading, it wasn't narrow, it was fairly decisive.
So, what you're saying is that if it was up to you, your feelings or beliefs are that you would bake the gay cake and just make the money; end of story. But.... that somebody else who has different feelings shouldn't be allowed to have their feelings or beliefs to NOT bake the gay cake? If you feel you have certain rights, then shouldn't everybody else also be allowed to share that same right? That's what a lot of people these days seem to think. As long as they get theirs, screw everybody else.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Teikiatsu
You know I'm not going to play hang the strawman with you Teiki. I'll merely stop responding to continued fallacies.
My opinion is that opening a business makes one subject to the same laws that we are all subject to.
Next.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Teikiatsu
It always comes back to the small towns, doesn't it? It's almost like there aren't things called phones, vehicles or the internet.
You'd be surprised. Go visit WV sometimes.
Also, there is no faith I am aware of that says you will not serve standard meals to sinners, and serving a standard meal is not a participation in their choice to live in sin.
Did you just admit that the baker was in the wrong?
Note that I said standard meals. I knew you'd try to trick 'cake is a food' in there.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Teikiatsu
You know I'm not going to play hang the strawman with you Teiki. I'll merely stop responding to continued fallacies.
My opinion is that opening a business makes one subject to the same laws that we are all subject to.
Next.
The laws do not include forcing people into a service contract. The baker offered his pre-made items without reservation, per lawful requirements. He cannot be forced into making a new item, especially one he does not make for any other customer.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Teikiatsu
It always comes back to the small towns, doesn't it? It's almost like there aren't things called phones, vehicles or the internet.
You'd be surprised. Go visit WV sometimes.
Also, there is no faith I am aware of that says you will not serve standard meals to sinners, and serving a standard meal is not a participation in their choice to live in sin.
Did you just admit that the baker was in the wrong?
Note that I said standard meals. I knew you'd try to trick 'cake is a food' in there.
Cake IS food. If you're talking about artistic expression then I agree with you.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Teikiatsu
Cake isn't food now?
Note I said standard meal, not general food. Are you having cake with every meal now? If so, I recommend you cut back.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Teikiatsu
It always comes back to the small towns, doesn't it? It's almost like there aren't things called phones, vehicles or the internet.
You'd be surprised. Go visit WV sometimes.
Also, there is no faith I am aware of that says you will not serve standard meals to sinners, and serving a standard meal is not a participation in their choice to live in sin.
Did you just admit that the baker was in the wrong?
Note that I said standard meals. I knew you'd try to trick 'cake is a food' in there.
Cake IS food. If you're talking about artistic expression then I agree with you.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Teikiatsu
Cake isn't food now?
Note I said standard meal, not general food. Are you having cake with every meal now? If so, I recommend you cut back.
Is a cake food? You can relax, I don't eat cake myself. But don't side-step.
Can there be an easier question? Is a cake food or not?