U.S. Back At No. 1 Competitiveness Ranking

a reply to: Wildmanimal

no, there's still more government regulation and subsidies and corporate bailouts and massive tax burden on business small business still can't compete

trump didn't wave a magical wand and fix everything everything is nearly almost exactly the same

a reply to: Sublimecraft

That is good stuff right there.

Excellent Hoo Haa!

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Metallicus

Ok I didn't want to say this but that "meme" had all the style and panache of a thirteen year old online gamer.

Nice try though.

a reply to: Wildmanimal

show me policy changes that have actually opened up the free market and enabled the creation of more business's and helped other business's grow?

where is the growth?

how did we grow?

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: nwtrucker

That's exactly the problem. Government should not be negotiating business. We should keep international trade free. Lead by example. Tariffs raise prices.

"Keep international trade free"?? Really? No one is that obtuse. It cannot be free when the other nations tariff your vehicles, like Germany and you do not. It isn't free when the other nation's gov't subsidize their exports which cast your domestic industry and jobs. It cannot be free trade when China manipulated it's currency to maintain an overwhelming competitive edge.

No, your not that obtuse, you have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. Many in the U.S. do.

That makes Trump's progress even more impressive.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Wildmanimal

no, there's still more government regulation and subsidies and corporate bailouts and massive tax burden on business small business still can't compete

trump didn't wave a magical wand and fix everything everything is nearly almost exactly the same

Things would be further along if the big business shills in both parties cooperated in Congress.

a reply to: nwtrucker

lot's of confirmation bias going on very little actual digging into the truth happening these days

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
a reply to: Metallicus

Trump inherited an economy that was already heading in the right direction. I don't mind giving Trump credit, as long as YOUR SIDE gives Obama the credit he deserves for saving the auto industry and taking Bush's failed economy and turning it around. If not, well, then I say, hypocrite.

Its funny to hear Obama supporters remind us that economic change occurs on a time scale that spans multiple administrations yet always seem to blame Bush single handedly for ruining the economy.

a reply to: nwtrucker

All the manufacturers have to do is raise the prices on vehicles going to nations that impose tariffs to cover the added cost. There is no need for our government to get involved. It can be handled as the manufacturers see fit.

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: nwtrucker

That's exactly the problem. Government should not be negotiating business. We should keep international trade free. Lead by example. Tariffs raise prices.

No, your not that obtuse, you have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. Many in the U.S. do.

That statement proves that you're just as arrogant as the president you helped elect. What do you know of my interests? Nothing.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: nwtrucker

All the manufacturers have to do is raise the prices on vehicles going to nations that impose tariffs to cover the added cost. There is no need for our government to get involved. It can be handled as the manufacturers see fit.

are you sure you know how this works?

a reply to: Krakatoa

People often see what they believe is true. That is even common in science. Their beliefs determine their interpretation of the evidence.

If you look at history, it is evident the path we were on was wrong. But some liberal economists talked our countries leaders into believing something could work when history said it can't. Greenspan even verified that he was led to believe a lie. What happened in 08 was a result of that and what did Obama do to fix the problem, he didn't do anything other than to throw money at it so it would have more time to build up more belief in the deception of our economy.

All Trump has really done is to increase belief in the economy under his plan, so far the Democrats have been blocking his ability to actually fix it correctly by tying him up with Meuller rope.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: nwtrucker

All the manufacturers have to do is raise the prices on vehicles going to nations that impose tariffs to cover the added cost. There is no need for our government to get involved. It can be handled as the manufacturers see fit.

Oh, OK. Raise the prices for the consumers and price themselves out of the competitive marketplace. Yeah, right.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: nwtrucker

That's exactly the problem. Government should not be negotiating business. We should keep international trade free. Lead by example. Tariffs raise prices.

No, your not that obtuse, you have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. Many in the U.S. do.

That statement proves that you're just as arrogant as the president you helped elect. What do you know of my interests? Nothing.

Nope, I know nothing of your interests. Selecting a personal, financial one put you in a more understandable position. The one remaining politically based.

That one merits no respect, whatsoever..

a reply to: nwtrucker

Exactly, so that deters trade with tariffing nations, which makes tariffs unprofitable. Free market principles.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: nwtrucker

Exactly, so that deters trade with tariffing nations, which makes tariffs unprofitable. Free market principles.

Uh, OK. So by not exporting to Germany due to their tariffs on US vehicles and allowing Germany unencumbered access to our marketplace somehow helps our auto industry??

You didn't happen to work for the Obama Administration, per chance?

Well. So much for the "Myth" of American exceptionalism, I s'pose.

Increase in employment is matching the rise in housing starts which bottomed in 2009 and has been increasing ever since. So one could argue that a new housing bubble is germinating with prices of houses/condos in US rising an average 6.2% from a year earlier. But the thing is, if west doesn't generate employment from debt bubbles. Unemployment will rise because the west cannot compete with global wages.

So where does it end?

According to the US Congressional Budget Office’s long-term estimate, every cent of the federal budget will go to interest on the debt and entitlement spending by 2025. Trump's deficits for his first four years will total $5.6 trillion. So sometime before 2025, all monies for defence spending, infrastructure etc will have to be burrowed.

Its not going to end well. But the propaganda will be rolled on thick to keep the charade going as long as they are able.

a reply to: nwtrucker

Well, in a free market, it's not the government's place to make things fair. Manufacturers have the right to choose who they sell to. And the consumer should have the right to choose who to buy from. There's no room in the equation for Trump's fat ass, without destabilizing the free market.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: nwtrucker

Well, in a free market, it's not the government's place to make things fair. Manufacturers have the right to choose who they sell to. And the consumer should have the right to choose who to buy from. There's no room in the equation for Trump's fat ass, without destabilizing the free market.

And there it is again, personal attacks.

You just lost the debate, sir. You are too emotionally compromised to have any real unbiased discussion.

Come back when you can get a handle on your emotions and can discuss this topic without childish name calling.