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Trump's tariffs should be an affront to anybody claiming to support the freemarket

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posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:23 PM
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Trade wars never benefit the American tax payer or American working man.

The retaliation will drive inflation up bigly.




posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6


The OP and Schwarzenegger are also among the folks who support policies which are the reason global free trade


I support the global economy, yes.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Why do you support the global economy? Do you support getting bent over by countries that have slave labor?



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

So true.

And let me get this straight. The premise of this thread's argument is that those industries are dying and therefore irrelevant. So what's all of the bitching about??

I am fully reformed from globalist thinking. The truth is there can only be free trade amongst partners in parity with one another. Anything less results in the exploitation of poor and cheap labor for the lion's share benefit of the 1%.

I thought most lefties were against that? Funny how so many are falling all over themselves to tell us how bad it is to monkey with the markets.



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posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:30 PM
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posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler
As long as the playing field is equal, that's a fine sentiment. But when you have countries that penalize American countries on trade and then complain if the US dares to do the exact same thing, then that's a problem. Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander. You cant tell the US to "play fair" and then cheat.


Yeah, why is nobody complaining about the tariffs that China has had on US goods for many years? It has not been a free market and Trump is trying to level the playing field.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:40 PM
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So it's Terrible for Trump to instate Tarrifs, but not to be a criminal and a traitor? Gotta love the messed up priorities of the right wing.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: CB328

Links? Or just more bs from liberal simpletons on ats



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: avgguy


Why do you support the global economy? Do you support getting bent over by countries that have slave labor?


I support the global economy because it's an inevitability as we become more connected and in tune with eachother. Protectionism will only stifle our development. The global economy allows for free, mostly unrestricted flow of innovation across the global and it also forces us to adapt and directly take on new market forces like China and India.

This from somebody who use to support the idea of tariffs. I actually thought Trumps idea of tariffs during 2016 was a good idea.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: burdman30ott6


The OP and Schwarzenegger are also among the folks who support policies which are the reason global free trade


I support the global economy, yes.



So, in other words, you support 3rd world living conditions for American citizens and you have been emotionally manipulated into thinking it's cool to be a globalist slave?

I am about done reading your garbage opinions.
You can't even put 2 and 2 together and figure out we can sustain our cost of living with slave wages.

Get lost with this emotional manipulative never-trump crap.

Your type are ushering in communism with a crooked grin. like helpful little owned sheep, while finding your own confidence by "triggering" other people.

When you start to get off on trolling people, you are headed down a bad road.

You are about 100 miles down that road already.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: loam


The premise of this thread's argument is that those industries are dying and therefore irrelevant.


They are dying because they've bcome irrelevant. That's what happens in a free and open market. The old die as they can't compete and new innovation comes into play. I thoguth your freemarket advocates were for this?

My has the orange one totally flipped you. Funny indeed.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Mandroid7


So, in other words, you support 3rd world living conditions for American citizens


I support minimum wage. Freemarket advocates like yourselves oppose it and believe it should be eliminated as market forces will correct this. And now you're saying we can't have an open and free global market because it will force Americans into 3rd world living conditions. The former contradicts the latter.


I am about done reading your garbage opinions.


I'll show you the door. Don't hit your head now on the way out!




posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

I am just going to assume that you, like most liberals, do not understand the concept of sovereignty.

As in, we should not have a free GLOBAL market. That's just stupid.

A free market within our own country, of course.

Trade agreements with other nations, of course.

Free global trade would amount to the same thing as open borders, with other countries taking advantage of our system.

I know... you don't get it. I don't expect you to.




posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari


I am just going to assume that you, like most liberals, do not understand the concept of sovereignty.


We've been trading with other nations for centuries. The global economy has been our play ground as much and we've been theirs. During that entire time we've remained sovereign.

You're only delaying the inevitable with your attitude.


A free market within our own country, of course.


It's not a freemarket when corporations and various industries require government intervention and favorabilism to continue to function.


Free global trade would amount to the same thing as open borders,


You're evidently not concerned about whether or not there's a freemarket. You're just concerned about borders. The two aren't one in the same.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Trade wars never benefit the American tax payer or American working man.

The retaliation will drive inflation up bigly.


www.wsj.com...

www.marketwatch.com...



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

So you support income inequality, environmental damage and lowering the work conditions of people in third world countries.

All the results of a global free market. Try to actually read about the pluses and minuses.

Again, I told you you wouldn't understand.

I'm not on this forum to be a tutor. Or attempt to debate someone who has no earthly clue about economics, much less the global picture.

Good night.




posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

So should companies be excused from their pension responsibilities that the labor unions fought and bargained for to avoid the the tariffs that makes them competitive to foreign counterparts that do not have these pension burdens?

Maybe we should just push those retirees over the cliff for the good of the global economy?



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

I love what President Trump is doing.

The US has been taken advantage of for far too long on these deals.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar




Maybe we should just push those retirees over the cliff for the good of the global economy?



Corporations don't have any qualms about bailing on retirees pensions.

www.nytimes.com...

It's how the stock holders can afford a 2nd home in the Hamptons and a condo in Vail.
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posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: olaru12
Trade wars never benefit the American tax payer or American working man.

The retaliation will drive inflation up bigly.


www.wsj.com...

www.marketwatch.com...



Wall Street isn't Main Street, though. Have we learned nothing from all of the doomporn Wall Street has pumped out over the years that ultimately was only intended to serve their best interests which are NOT the same best interests as John Q. Taxpayer?




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