Evidence Mounting that Barack Obama and Valerie Jarrett Worked to Keep SPYGATE Hidden.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Simon_Boudreaux


Valerie Jarrett's family was tracked for decades by American intelligence and law enforcement, because of their ties to global communism.

FBI Files via Judicial Watch: www.cnsnews.com...

Yup. Knew about her long before she stuck her hand up Obama's backside and made a good puppet out of him.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: carewemust

It looks like Obama's Spygate scandal really is going to dwarf Watergate, doesn't it?

No.

Not even close.

Stop reading propaganda sources and wait till all of the real information comes out.

ATS would have 80% fewer posts if everyone waited until your definition of "real information" was available.

And it would be a much better place..

a reply to: introvert

Speculation is allowed, like it or not. You do it all the time. In fact, your original reply where you said it was not going to elipse watergate, was just speculation on your part. You just don't like that the fact pattern is leaning towards obama having been directly involved and him going down as the worst president in the history of the US. Why you care, IDK, but it's obvious you do. So instead of accepting the current leaning of the facts, you are holding out hope that some new fact will come to light to save your view point. That's why you're staunchly 'waiting for the facts' not out of some higher loyalty to facts.

Here's the thing, you and I can speculate on what we know and change our opinions when new facts come to light. We aren't a jury, all of the facts aren't there waiting to be presented the next day in court. So while we wait for them to come available over months and years, we are all going to speculate, including you. Drop the act and accept what we know and what we don't.

a reply to: carewemust

It looks like Obama's Spygate scandal really is going to dwarf Watergate, doesn't it?

There is no such thing as "spygate." It is about as real as #pizzagate. The only ones planting spies in the Trump campaign was Russia.

a reply to: DJW001

James clapper disagrees. He admits they planted a spy.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: DJW001

James clapper disagrees. He admits they planted a spy.

In addition to the spy/informant, the illegally obtained FISA spy warrant obtained by Obama's FBI, is another key component of SPYGATE.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: carewemust

It looks like Obama's Spygate scandal really is going to dwarf Watergate, doesn't it?

No.

Not even close.

Stop reading propaganda sources and wait till all of the real information comes out.

ATS would have 80% fewer posts if everyone waited until your definition of "real information" was available.

Why is the number of posts on ATS important? Isn't the most important thing having real, factual information before perpetuating bull#?

That's what you and the "majority" of people on ATS are doing. You're spreading propaganda bull# without solid facts for the sake of confirmation bias.

Poor form.

I hope you're referring to both sides because this is the very thing the left has been doing for how many months now over the whole collusion and obstruction crap. Why does it feel like if it comes from the left it's suppose to be taken as truth, and spouted as such in liberal media.. But if from the right it's just propaganda?

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: DJW001

James clapper disagrees. He admits they planted a spy.

Link please. Infowars and globalresearch do not count, of course.

ETA: Any of you who starred the post are invited to do the same. Tick tock....

a reply to: DJW001

a reply to: Dfairlite

Didn't Clapper even say he thought it was a good thing to spy on the opposition's campaign?

a reply to: Simon_Boudreaux

Yes, to catch those filthy russians, it was just fine!

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: DJW001

What part of "no they did not" are people not understanding?

a reply to: DJW001

Joy behar premises the question with the planted informant/spy. Clapper never denies the informant/spy existed and in fact confirms that they did exist and they were spying. But not on the trump campaign, just those dastardly russians! That's what we call spin.


ETA for clarification: He says 'no they were not' to the question of who the spy planted in the trump campaign was spying on.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: DJW001

Joy behar premises the question with the planted informant/spy. Clapper never denies the informant/spy existed and in fact confirms that they did exist and they were spying. But not on the trump campaign, just those dastardly russians! That's what we call spin.

WHAT PART OF "NO THEY DID NOT" DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? He not only denies they planted a spy in the campaign, he explains very clearly that they were spying on Russians, not the campaign. Why did spying on Russians lead to the Trump campaign? Can you explain that?

a reply to: DJW001

Now wait a minute, how can they have been spying on the russians without a spy? And no, he doesn't deny they planted a spy.

ETA:
Spying on russians didn't lead to the campaign. Spying on russians is simply cover for spying on the campaign. If they had a spy in the campaign, to root out russian influence, why do we have a special counsel? After all, they were there in real time, right? Answer me that.

a reply to: DJW001

Why did spying on Russians lead to the Trump campaign? Can you explain that?

Because the obama administration used the informant to illegally unmask all those in the trump campaign.
The 4th amendment is a real thing and it is going to kick the former administrations ass.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: DJW001

Now wait a minute, how can they have been spying on the russians without a spy? And no, he doesn't deny they planted a spy.

This is why informed people are screaming at the sky. They were monitoring Russian communications. They did not plant a spy in the Trump campaign. Listen to what he actually says.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Because the obama administration used the informant to illegally unmask all those in the trump campaign.

Really? I though it was the Steele Dossier. What is it going to be tomorrow?

The 4th amendment is a real thing and it is going to kick the former administrations ass.

Actually, it is going to get this administration's ICE storm troopers disbanded.

a reply to: DJW001

Really? I though it was the Steele Dossier. What is it going to be tomorrow

Guess you missed the part where the dossiers author, under oath in court testimony, has stated the dossier is unverified.

unverified
adjective
not having been confirmed, substantiated, or proven to be true

So if they did use the Steele Dossier to unmask us citizens that is another crime committed by the former administration.

Actually, it is going to get this administration's ICE storm troopers disbanded.

a reply to: DJW001

Here, mister informed, eat this: Clapper admits informant identity is exposed

If there was no informant, how was his identity exposed? Goodness, you guys are dense sometimes.