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MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way, Thanks Feminism

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posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: bulwarkz

Lol again, your assertion that same sex relationships are all temporary and shallow just shows how little you have a clue of the real world. As I said, I have gay friends who have been in committed relationships for 20+ years. What, are you a fundamentalist Christian or something.
Your argument completely died when you came out with the gay line.
MGTOW is lame, and your attempts to project your own opinions of love into my life is equally lame.
Amusing though so I'll probably keep replying...a bit like my cat who toys with a half dead mouse.

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And they are not temporary relationships, they are female friends who I deeply love, some 20+ years. You haven't got a clue fella.
You deeply love but parted with.
You just do not understand this kind of love.
You are limited by your own constraints.




posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: bulwarkz

Again, you are trying to project your understanding of love on me and other people.
Are you a fundamentalist Christian or something?
Just because you cannot understand it does not mean our love is less than love you experience.

In any case, you lost the argument with your ridiculous assertion that all gay love is temporary. You clearly haven't got a clue outside of whatever bubble you live in. Bible belt?



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: bulwarkz

Again, you are trying to project your understanding of love on me and other people.
Are you a fundamentalist Christian or something?
Just because you cannot understand it does not mean our love is less than love you experience.

In any case, you lost the argument with your ridiculous assertion that all gay love is temporary. You clearly haven't got a clue outside of whatever bubble you live in. Bible belt?

No you said "all"
I am using gay love as a generic model that has replaced the judeo-christian model.
One is based on a covenant and the other is based on temporal model.
One is based on working through hardship to bond in love, the other has booty calls and hook ups.
I am not trying to convince you I am right.
I am pointing out your flaws in logic.
You simply do not understand or have experienced the "fundamentalist Christian"ideal but you are convinced it is the same thing you experience. The "why do you think that?" part is confusing though.
You equate intimacy as love imo. You are at the adolescant stage and have yet to mature as you seem stunted by the sexual fixation of intimacy



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: bulwarkz

Lol, okay, so you are actually basing your opinion on love from a religious perspective, that's fine, but we'll never agree because my experience is different and I don't believe in any gods.
And adolescent? I have a son in his early twenties, my ex wife is my most loved trusted friend, and I love and respect all my female friends who I share physical intimacy with.
Your life experience is obviously different to me so it is likely you will never understand mine, shared with women who I love who are 'going their own way' as well...only they don't have the lame whining boys club type acronym WGTOW.
edit on 4-6-2018 by CornishCeltGuy because: clarity



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: bulwarkz

I love all my female friends who I'm intimate with, just none of us want to commit to monogamy.
They are the same as me, so if I'm labeled MGTOW they must be WGTOW, or we agree that HGTOW (humans) is more appropriate as an acronym.


Hilariously you keep saying MGTOW is lame and then self identify as MGTOW? I think I see what your hangup is though. You dislike the whole redpill, pickup artist, men going their own way thing because it tends to have a negative view towards women as a group.

Instead you view women with respect and are happy with your arrangement. The whole manosphere meninist thing, like feminism, is a statement of grievances that causes men to adapt new strategies of dealing with the opposite gender. Full stop, that's it.

Your approach to life is more in line with polyamory (many partners simultaneously) and friends with benefits. That is just a sexual and relationship orientation.



Nothing wrong with that. If it works for you, cool, but your inability to understand the rest of it is a sign of your own issues. To quote you word for word, "Don't project your own views on everyone else, it's lame." What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: Mishmashum

Manosphere LMAO!
It is lame as # mate.
Desperation to attribute labels, but lamely gender specific.
I've only used the MGTOW acronym relating to me as so many people have said that is the box I fit in, so I then counter it with my female friends who live similar live to me and say they should be called WGTOW, or we have a universal human HGTOW acronym.
All of it is silly though in my opinion, just blokes whining about women lol



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: Mishmashum
Desperation to attribute labels, but lamely gender specific.


Well at least we know you say one thing and do another. Shows your character doesn't it?
Yes it is gender specific, I am glad after about 37 pages of 20 posts per page you finally figured that one out.

It is not like MEN Going Their Own Way gave any hints now did it?



I've only used the MGTOW acronym relating to me as so many people have said that is the box I fit in, so I then counter it with my female friends who live similar live to me and say they should be called WGTOW, or we have a universal human HGTOW acronym.All of it is silly though in my opinion


You're not MGTOW by a mile, you are a dude who likes casual hookups with some people you have a stronger connection with. That is textbook polyamory. At least now that you know where you land you can finally find people who fit more your view of the world. See that's the value of labels, you can explain yourself to others without sounding like a moron.
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posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: Mishmashum

Oh behave, I've been consistent in my assertions and actions.
You are just miserable because I don't support your silly little boys club whining about women.
It's lame, pathetic, and ridiculous...but amusing though, so carry on lol



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: Mishmashum

Oh behave, I've been consistent in my assertions and actions.
You are just miserable because I don't support your silly little boys club whining about women.
It's lame, pathetic, and ridiculous...but amusing though, so carry on lol


Consistent? Your argument is so pathetic that you have to repeat yourself and you address nothing I said? Do you realize that everyone can see you have no argument and that you are mockable? Do you realize how much that makes you a sad loser who can't even muster an argument to address what was said to them?

You lose.
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posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: Mishmashum

Lol you sound grumpy.
MGTOW is lame as # lol, just whiny blokes bleating like lost lambs on the hillside about women



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: Mishmashum

bleating like lost lambs


Only one crying right now is you, your argument has devolved into not addressing an argument and stating your opinion, while telling others how much they should respect you while not doing the same in reverse.

You are a moral and intellectual coward.
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posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: Mishmashum

Haha no fella, maybe crying laughing after learning about the MGTOW moms basement movement!
You are the butt hurt one because I ridicule MGTOW lol



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:56 PM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Don't really give a s#1t about your opinion honestly. It would have been nice to talk and have a conversation, but you are incapable. I feel bad for your son, I don't think anyone could look up to you as a father. Sorry to say.



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: Mishmashum

Lol behave, you have been the hostile one all through interaction with me, I've been in a good mood.
Even this, criticising my parenting lol, you have no idea how I've done with my parenting.
Grumpy much?


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But you judge me from a religious perspective so I'll give you a hall pass

edit on 4-6-2018 by CornishCeltGuy because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: Mishmashum
Even this, criticising my parenting lol, you have no idea how I've done with my parenting.


Not criticizing your parenting, I am saying I'd be embarrassed if I had someone like you as a father who spent all his time on a conspiracy message board and argued with people without even attempting to think things through. I would probably think my dad was a loser if he behaved like that. Gain some self-awareness, you are not doing yourself any favors.



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: Mishmashum

LMFAO!
What awareness???
Please do tell, my sage lol



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: Mishmashum

Manosphere LMAO!
It is lame as # mate.
Desperation to attribute labels, but lamely gender specific.
I've only used the MGTOW acronym relating to me as so many people have said that is the box I fit in, so I then counter it with my female friends who live similar live to me and say they should be called WGTOW, or we have a universal human HGTOW acronym.
All of it is silly though in my opinion, just blokes whining about women lol
you are the one making labels and using them
I do not think you are mgtow at all. You say you are, then define it with a label.
I see your lifestyle as willing cuckoldry.
I could never be happy and fulfilled with it. If it works for you kewl!
I think it is the result of sex defined as love. You say a lot about love but you are yet to seperate sex from love in your depictions.
Sex is for bonding a relationship where it is mutually exclusive to your partner forming trust in each other.
If you listen closely there is no way I am projecting onto you. In no way am I using transference of my ideals onto you.
It might be impossible for my inadequacies in love to be any way projected onto what I see as dysfunctional and reprobate ideals you espouse.

Dude, you are not mgtow. To mgtow you are a simp. A willing cuckold. You simply do not understand at all. Those women certainly need you. Because men are scarce now



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: bulwarkz

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: Mishmashum

Manosphere LMAO!
It is lame as # mate.
Desperation to attribute labels, but lamely gender specific.
I've only used the MGTOW acronym relating to me as so many people have said that is the box I fit in, so I then counter it with my female friends who live similar live to me and say they should be called WGTOW, or we have a universal human HGTOW acronym.
All of it is silly though in my opinion, just blokes whining about women lol
you are the one making labels and using them
I do not think you are mgtow at all. You say you are, then define it with a label.
I see your lifestyle as willing cuckoldry.
I could never be happy and fulfilled with it. If it works for you kewl!
I think it is the result of sex defined as love. You say a lot about love but you are yet to seperate sex from love in your depictions.
Sex is for bonding a relationship where it is mutually exclusive to your partner forming trust in each other.
If you listen closely there is no way I am projecting onto you. In no way am I using transference of my ideals onto you.
It might be impossible for my inadequacies in love to be any way projected onto what I see as dysfunctional and reprobate ideals you espouse.

Dude, you are not mgtow. To mgtow you are a simp. A willing cuckold. You simply do not understand at all. Those women certainly need you. Because men are scarce now
What the # is a simp and a cuckold? I ain't searching your silly 'moaning about women' labels as described in the lil boys club whining about women lol



posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 02:42 PM
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See now that is projection and transference.
I do not whine at all about women.
Since I have no intentions of marrying at this stage I personally see little downside for me.
Plenty of women out there that to them, by comparison, I am the marlboro man in a sea of beta's and omega's

You are starting to come across as lonely. Very lonely perhaps. You feel you need women around for confirmation maybe? That would explain why you think we are whining about women when we are not.
We got us a white knight here.



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posted on Jun, 4 2018 @ 02:47 PM
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If you pay attention nobody is whining about women. At least not since we have been responding to you. I think we are whining about the deteroration of masculine men and you have become the object lesson.
I seriously doubt you get laid much at all. Your game would dry up the virgin river.
With you here I get to use labels like cuckold, simp, beta, white knight, etc...

We are not whining about women, we are bitching about the new man, i.e. soyboys.
And you seem to rise to this occassion.
I bet you think this rhetoric gets you laid somehow, right?a reply to: CornishCeltGuy



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