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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: DieGloke
To conflate someone offering an opinion on a trial to exposing classified information is a bit of a stretch.
I see free expression as something fundamental, a basis for a free society.
If society is basing their foundations on the inhibition of free expression, then that society is not free.
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Grambler
Very simplistic. While the number of registered members seems high we had 1600 members on in the last 24 hours. Of those I'd wager maybe 500 are UK members. Of those posting in that thread what? A little over a handful? The odds of them swaying a potential juror is extremely minimal.
Everyone who has proclaimed Toommys guilt on ATS has influenced potential jurors, and broke this law.
originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: DieGloke
It's the perfect case to address the issue of losing your freedom of speech!
originally posted by: kaylaluv
What I find particularly ironic is, what the far right is all up in arms about what they claim is happening here, is what they have been wanting Trump to do all along: hold the media (CNN) accountable and put ‘em in jail if they put out derogatory stuff about Trump, as it affects his ability to do his job.
So, either you are for it are agin’ it. Which is it?
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Grambler
Very simplistic. While the number of registered members seems high we had 1600 members on in the last 24 hours. Of those I'd wager maybe 500 are UK members. Of those posting in that thread what? A little over a handful? The odds of them swaying a potential juror is extremely minimal.
But it exists for anyone to read at any time. And the info shared here could be retweeted by someone with a large following, thereby reaching more potential jurors.
And the odds of Tommy swaying potential jurors on his facebook page are much higher?
originally posted by: Grimpachi
This is what I understand about the case.
Tommy was already serving a suspended sentence. That he was already convicted of, so it wasn't that he was convicted again it was that the suspension was revoked and he was made to serve the full sentence.
If he did something to warrant revoking that suspension then it is cut and dry.
The problem I have is I don't think he did anything to warrant being arrested again. I saw the video of his arrest and the cop claimed he was charging him with breaching the peace and to be honest I think that was BS. I didn't see anything in the video that warranted him being charged with breaching the peace.
His original conviction seems like it was warranted, but the follow up looks like he was railroaded.
originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: DieGloke
It's the perfect case to address the issue of losing your freedom of speech! You just admitted that your government is becoming tyrannical, yet because Tommy doesn't fit into your political tribe you choose to back up tyranny!
Try and twist it how ever you want.
originally posted by: intrepid
originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: DieGloke
It's the perfect case to address the issue of losing your freedom of speech!
You(Americans) tell the rest of us that we should follow your lead and have more guns. Now you're telling us about free speech a la American style. And then have had the gall to tell us to butt out of your politics. That would be funny if it weren't so sad.
originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: DieGloke
Thanks for the info.
In the US, what he did would be called Probation Violation. The whole fog surrounding this plus my ignorance of UK law is why Ive refrained from commenting on this. In the US, if hes a Parole or Probation violator, his rights and remedies would be severely limited and disposition would be swift. Id have to guess the same to be true in the UK.
originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Grambler
Everyone who has proclaimed Toommys guilt on ATS has influenced potential jurors, and broke this law.
Except there will be no potential jurors because their will be no trial , he is now serving the sentence he was given last year because of his action this year.
If a judge says don't do something it's usually best not to do it , especially when in public live on the internet.
Nobody (apart from Tommy) has broken the law.
She's an idiot, he's not jailed, he's held in a police cell until Tuesday, due to it being bank holiday weekend. Otherwise he'd be out the next day.
The right to a fair trial or innocent until proven guilty protect an individual from being set up by courts and governments and are precisely what separates us from North Korea.