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Tommy Robinson (Arrested)

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posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: ScepticScot


It's exactly why he got the sentence because his actions could have prejudiced the trial.


Because the powers that be made it that way and THEY are the problem. Not Tommy Robinson. Either the authorities have the proof or they don't. Neither Tommy Robinson nor Joe Blow can change the evidence nor the truth. But the authorities are using some random guy talking on the street to hide and subvert the ugly criminal violent truth of the matter. And in the meantime, more and more girls are being brutally victimized.

So, again, protect the perps all you want -- both the ones in jail and the ones who put Tommy Robinson in jail. I'll stand for the girls being abused and the truth.


Thinking that Tommy Robinson is a moron is not the same as being on the same side as the child molesters.

The accused are in trial. There is no big secret that Robinson is revealing, all he is doing is potentially endangering the trial and letting them off.

You aren't t standing by the girls and the truth you are standing by an idiotic bigot.


Sorry, but if one man can endanger a trial , then what does that tell you about the justice system?

And let's not forget the powers that be have been known for ignoring or hiding evidence when it comes to celebraty child abusers. It is only since saville that this has changed and now they are looking like they are trying to do something about it.

And let's not forget, their is a huge peadafile ring filled with powerful people. How do you think saville got away with it for so long!

As for Robinson, he has done nothing wrong, and if someone like this can sway a case, then it does not say much for our justice system!




posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: ScepticScot

bigot
ˈbɪɡət/
noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

Tommy Robinson saw fit to dialogue with Maajid Nawaz. No racist insults, hatred or slurs. Dialogue.

A conversation with Adam Deen (Quillam Foundation) where he questions and challenges his beliefs but doesn't demand the removal of his right to think and say what he wishes. You're going to have to do better than throw generic slanders about.
www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...


So because you can find YouTube videos that means he isn't a racist and a bigot despite being ex BNP and founding the EDL. Think you need to do a bit more research.


He is not a racist. Religon is not a race! So when people pull the racist card against Robinson, i know they are just hating for the sske of it.



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: LesMisanthrope




a court case is going to fall apart because one man outside was filming himself.


You should try reading the actual reasons behind a lot of outrage by a considerable number of British posters here....

Posted by Bastion earlier.


As defence are pleading for mistrial they can use Tommy's video and discussion of this on UK messageboards in evidence and gain acquittal as presumption of innocence was voided. It's also illegal to discuss (which is why newspapers don't have comment sections on legal cases) but unlikely to ever be pulled up and slander/libel.


Yes, the defence could use T Robinson's vid to get this sick group of people out on a mistrial.


Child rapists go free and you blame the guy filming himself outside. What nonsense. I fear the British brain has turned to oatmeal.


They weren't going free they were on trial. The person risking the trial was Tommy Robinson.


Then why the hell are people saying these people will go free?


Who is saying that?

As has been explained extensively by Bastion the UK has very strict rules on reporting trials in order to ensure a fair trial.

You can disagree with those rules or think them unnecessary however they exist and Tommy Robinson actions constituted a clear breach of them and risked integrity the trial. Assuming they are guilty he is risking then being let off on the basis they can't get a fair trial for his own self promotion.


Black pigeon claims it was the SENTENCING PHASE OF THE TRIAL, If I didn't mishear. Maybe I'm wrong, but sentencing phase seems like final step of the trial when sentence is given. If I heard right, and it is what is sounds like, it doesn't seem like he could influence, unless he actively engaged with jury prior to them sentencing, but if it was sentencing phase and the jury was already in, there is nothing to influence.



Tommy was reporting false information claiming sentencing was due that day according to court records. The case is ongoing, the next witness is due to give evidence in September (if the judge manages to find a way to avoid mistrial, nigh on impossible due to repeat offense severity of offense).

This had all been set in pre-trial hearings, Tommy could have asked the court or AG for a copy of proceedings and reporting restrictions if he wanted to report the case but avoid causing a mistrial. He failed to do this.

At 5pm on Friday the defence issued a plea bargain which will be heard on Tuesday, due to Tommy committing the alleged offense on a Friday and national holiday on Monday, granting them three days to get a claim together instead of one.

The actions will likely be declared to have caused irrecoverable damage to the case and cause a mistrial as the publication and content of his broadcasting would influence the sentencing. Hopefully that can be avoided but the rules of this are very strict.

Even if prosecuted they can appeal for acquittal as it fits all 'sensational, inaccurate and misleading' criteria that was precedent in 1991 Taylor sister case - when the Sun printed a headline saying "killer" mistress, with an arrow connecting the word "killer" to one of the sisters faces, this tiny act was enough to overturn conviction for murder.



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:21 PM
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Clearly the UK government, and the TR detractors in this thread fear what he has to say.



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

Riiiiighhhht.........Quillam founder Maajid Nawaz WASan Islamic extremist and member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, calling for the killing of Hindus, Jews in Israel and Russians in Chechnya.
But I guess he's still a global Islamic caliphate believer at heart?
You still haven't done anything to prove anything. The fact that Robinson is happy to be seen with sikhs and indians and jews makes him a very, very selective racist. Or, is it to do with his concerns over the ideology of islam and its incompatibility with western culture?
So far the only one looking intolerant is you.



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:24 PM
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Not really a suprize that Trump cult on ATS supports Tommy Robinson. You guys rush to defend any neo nazi scum from USA to Europe.
There is a clear pattern here. Same people who support Tommy Robinson have also defended the neo nazis in Charlottesville.



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:34 PM
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originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
Not really a suprize that Trump cult on ATS supports Tommy Robinson. You guys rush to defend any neo nazi scum from USA to Europe.
There is a clear pattern here. Same people who support Tommy Robinson have also defended the neo nazis in Charlottesville.


Absolute rubbish!



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
Not really a suprize that Trump cult on ATS supports Tommy Robinson. You guys rush to defend any neo nazi scum from USA to Europe.
There is a clear pattern here. Same people who support Tommy Robinson have also defended the neo nazis in Charlottesville.


Bs. Prove it, I won't hold my breath though.



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: ScepticScot

bigot
ˈbɪɡət/
noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

Tommy Robinson saw fit to dialogue with Maajid Nawaz. No racist insults, hatred or slurs. Dialogue.

A conversation with Adam Deen (Quillam Foundation) where he questions and challenges his beliefs but doesn't demand the removal of his right to think and say what he wishes. You're going to have to do better than throw generic slanders about.
www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...


So because you can find YouTube videos that means he isn't a racist and a bigot despite being ex BNP and founding the EDL. Think you need to do a bit more research.


He is not a racist. Religon is not a race! So when people pull the racist card against Robinson, i know they are just hating for the sske of it.


Former BNP member Tommy Robinson not racist. OK...



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: ScepticScot

Riiiiighhhht.........Quillam founder Maajid Nawaz WASan Islamic extremist and member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, calling for the killing of Hindus, Jews in Israel and Russians in Chechnya.
But I guess he's still a global Islamic caliphate believer at heart?
You still haven't done anything to prove anything. The fact that Robinson is happy to be seen with sikhs and indians and jews makes him a very, very selective racist. Or, is it to do with his concerns over the ideology of islam and its incompatibility with western culture?
So far the only one looking intolerant is you.


Intolerant of racists. Yes I am and proud of it.

You just tried a version of the 'I'm not racist I have black friends card'



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: seeker1963

He's still a criminal that has done jail time ,he's a far right Nazi sympathizer. Again you are free to support these kinds of people if you like. Call me names if that makes you feel better ,that doesn't change what's happening here. I'm not a fan of the authorities either but I shouldn't have to explain the difference to you... Anyhow carry on perhaps you could go join him and wave your Nazi flag alongside him...


You lose all credibility comrade when you bring up the "Nazi" term! It means you have no damn logic to combat anyone who disagrees with you! I am shocked you didn't call him a racist?

Freakin Nazi's are taking over the world!!! Seek help because Nazi's do not exist except in the minds of mentally deficiant ijits who are brainwashed by the telly....


Yeah, they don't understand that the Nazi's where exterminated in 1945. Or maybe I'm just having an experience with the Mandela effect.



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: ScepticScot

bigot
ˈbɪɡət/
noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

Tommy Robinson saw fit to dialogue with Maajid Nawaz. No racist insults, hatred or slurs. Dialogue.

A conversation with Adam Deen (Quillam Foundation) where he questions and challenges his beliefs but doesn't demand the removal of his right to think and say what he wishes. You're going to have to do better than throw generic slanders about.
www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...


So because you can find YouTube videos that means he isn't a racist and a bigot despite being ex BNP and founding the EDL. Think you need to do a bit more research.


He is not a racist. Religon is not a race! So when people pull the racist card against Robinson, i know they are just hating for the sske of it.


Former BNP member Tommy Robinson not racist. OK...


He has stated many times that he did not know non whites could not join, hence the reason why he left. Considering he has non white friends, that makes sense don't you think.

Unless you think he is an extreme racist, but also has friends which are not white : /



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: ScepticScot

Riiiiighhhht.........Quillam founder Maajid Nawaz WASan Islamic extremist and member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, calling for the killing of Hindus, Jews in Israel and Russians in Chechnya.
But I guess he's still a global Islamic caliphate believer at heart?
You still haven't done anything to prove anything. The fact that Robinson is happy to be seen with sikhs and indians and jews makes him a very, very selective racist. Or, is it to do with his concerns over the ideology of islam and its incompatibility with western culture?
So far the only one looking intolerant is you.


Intolerant of racists. Yes I am and proud of it.

You just tried a version of the 'I'm not racist I have black friends card'


Rubbish again! Seen him around luton many times with non whites when I lived there. He is not a racist!



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: ScepticScot

Riiiiighhhht.........Quillam founder Maajid Nawaz WASan Islamic extremist and member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, calling for the killing of Hindus, Jews in Israel and Russians in Chechnya.
But I guess he's still a global Islamic caliphate believer at heart?
You still haven't done anything to prove anything. The fact that Robinson is happy to be seen with sikhs and indians and jews makes him a very, very selective racist. Or, is it to do with his concerns over the ideology of islam and its incompatibility with western culture?
So far the only one looking intolerant is you.


Intolerant of racists. Yes I am and proud of it.

You just tried a version of the 'I'm not racist I have black friends card'


Nobody needs to say they're not racist anymore

The race card has expired

The lefts propaganda has fallen flat on its face

And you will be run out of whatever country you're in my dear lefty friends

War is coming



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: ScepticScot

bigot
ˈbɪɡət/
noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

Tommy Robinson saw fit to dialogue with Maajid Nawaz. No racist insults, hatred or slurs. Dialogue.

A conversation with Adam Deen (Quillam Foundation) where he questions and challenges his beliefs but doesn't demand the removal of his right to think and say what he wishes. You're going to have to do better than throw generic slanders about.
www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...


So because you can find YouTube videos that means he isn't a racist and a bigot despite being ex BNP and founding the EDL. Think you need to do a bit more research.


He is not a racist. Religon is not a race! So when people pull the racist card against Robinson, i know they are just hating for the sske of it.


Former BNP member Tommy Robinson not racist. OK...


He has stated many times that he did not know non whites could not join, hence the reason why he left. Considering he has non white friends, that makes sense don't you think.

Unless you think he is an extreme racist, but also has friends which are not white : /


So he wasn't racist just a moron?

The idea that someone wouldn't know the BNP are a racist organisation is just absurd.



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

It's obvious you haven't watched enough of his videos, especially the ones where noticeable amounts of non-white people show support for him. He has plenty of non-white supporters and he doesn't want them to be kicked out of the UK. Ask yourself, why would they support him & help him get this popular if it's obvious he hates them & wants them to be thrown out? It's clear he doesn't have an issue with non-whites. Tommy's issue is with radical Islam & the problems they have brought to the UK, specifically the poor working class communities.


Not to mention, he has marched with & been supported by the Shik community, which are not majority white.

I get you support radical Islam but that doesn't make Tommy a racist .
edit on 27-5-2018 by ker2010 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:53 PM
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posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: ScepticScot

bigot
ˈbɪɡət/
noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

Tommy Robinson saw fit to dialogue with Maajid Nawaz. No racist insults, hatred or slurs. Dialogue.

A conversation with Adam Deen (Quillam Foundation) where he questions and challenges his beliefs but doesn't demand the removal of his right to think and say what he wishes. You're going to have to do better than throw generic slanders about.
www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...


So because you can find YouTube videos that means he isn't a racist and a bigot despite being ex BNP and founding the EDL. Think you need to do a bit more research.


He is not a racist. Religon is not a race! So when people pull the racist card against Robinson, i know they are just hating for the sske of it.


Former BNP member Tommy Robinson not racist. OK...


He has stated many times that he did not know non whites could not join, hence the reason why he left. Considering he has non white friends, that makes sense don't you think.

Unless you think he is an extreme racist, but also has friends which are not white : /


So he wasn't racist just a moron?

The idea that someone wouldn't know the BNP are a racist organisation is just absurd.


Obviously he made the wrong choice. No one can make mistakes no?

He clearly is not a racist, and I cannot stand ignorant people labelling someone racist when they Cleary are not.

Please tell me where he has stated that he hates non whites?

Please tell me where he has stated non whites should not be in the UK?

Everything he has been saying is against Islam. Does that make him a racist?



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

Intolerant of racists and proud of it, you say.
There are certain types of people you have deemed beneath you.
That means you consider yourself superior to others of the human race.
That makes you a supremacist, and that makes you dangerous.
You deflect and project. I offer evidence, and you produce nothing. And I am STILL waiting.
Your rebuttal is as empty as your evidence.



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