How That Massive Battle Between US Troops And Russian Mercenaries In Syria Went Down

a reply to: Pyle

The nearest carrier to Benghazi at the time was 160+ hours away...

There were soldiers in Cyprus. With plenty of transport aircraft.

originally posted by: Mousygretchen
Just imagine if the death toll were the other way around... because apparently Syrian lives don't matter.
I'd like to see China help Syria defend itself from the western war criminals.

China , China , China
China...
Sung to the tune of "Money"
You much funny person...

a reply to: Azureblue

What evidence proves Rissia used mercaneries?

Your horrible spelling ?

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: infolurker


Thank God Air Support didn't have to wait for permission from the State Department to provide back up? Sure as hell refreshing to know we have a President that allows our troops to kick ass and take names later?

Of course we had air and ground support in Syria an active combat zone, something we didnt have in Libya which wasnt an active combat zone at the time of the attack. Do you even know where Benghazi is and how far support was from it? You should sit down with google maps and the answer should smack you in the face really quickly.

Yeah great f'n planning by the obama admin.

WTF?!

I am sorry but, what? We cant have US military in every corner of the world at any given moment. Especially because diplomatic missions happen all over the world all the time even in less then friendly countries.

...we kinda can.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
en.m.wikipedia.org...

..... and its kinda the most important aspect of our military
en.m.wikipedia.org...

The nearest carrier to Benghazi at the time was 160+ hours away... So while we can move assets to places, we dont have them everywhere at any given time.

No, but the ability to move assets of sufficient firepower anywhere on the globe within 24hrs is but one defining factor of a Super Power.

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: infolurker


Thank God Air Support didn't have to wait for permission from the State Department to provide back up? Sure as hell refreshing to know we have a President that allows our troops to kick ass and take names later?

Of course we had air and ground support in Syria an active combat zone, something we didnt have in Libya which wasnt an active combat zone at the time of the attack. Do you even know where Benghazi is and how far support was from it? You should sit down with google maps and the answer should smack you in the face really quickly.

Yeah great f'n planning by the obama admin.

WTF?!

I am sorry but, what? We cant have US military in every corner of the world at any given moment. Especially because diplomatic missions happen all over the world all the time even in less then friendly countries.

...we kinda can.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
en.m.wikipedia.org...

..... and its kinda the most important aspect of our military
en.m.wikipedia.org...

The nearest carrier to Benghazi at the time was 160+ hours away... So while we can move assets to places, we dont have them everywhere at any given time.

www.cbsnews.com...

How long does it take a C-130 to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi?

a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

This is a stupid post. Low hanging fruit for a low level thinker.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Trump wins again.

Turns out Obama was the JV leaguer in over his head, didn't know how to lead a winning team.

I fail to see how Trump has anything to do with well trained JSOC being able to defend themselves. And also I believe this story slightly is an over exaggeration what exactly happened.

Then you fail to see how the top commander of the entire military can be either a hindrance or an asset by setting their policy down the chain of command.
Obama fail
Trump win
both led the same team

Simple stuff.

a reply to: infolurker
I'm heartbroken over the 300 families who have been decimated by this horrible action. Fathers and sons never to return home. Eff war.

originally posted by: Tenacious

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: infolurker

Wow, that's one hell of a kill/death ratio.

Thats what air support will do.

Indeed. Welcome to ATS although I expect you've been a member before.

I heard Mattis speak about this. He says he has a Russian counterpart that he speaks to regularly just so the Americans and Russians don't accidentally get into it. He talked to his contact who said the mercs weren't supposed to be there, so Mattis "annihilated" them (his word) So, basically the Americans and the Russians colluded (love that word) to eliminate the mercs!

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: infolurker
I'm heartbroken over the 300 families who have been decimated by this horrible action. Fathers and sons never to return home. Eff war.

If they hadn't chosen to fire on our troops, it would not have happened. This was no accident. They chose to surround our troops and attempt to eliminate them. And you're heart-broken? T.S.

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: infolurker
I'm heartbroken over the 300 families who have been decimated by this horrible action. Fathers and sons never to return home. Eff war.

^^^^THIS^^^^

Why are we there again?

Time to bring the troops home.

originally posted by: Pyle
The nearest carrier to Benghazi at the time was 160+ hours away... So while we can move assets to places, we dont have them everywhere at any given time.

Male cow feces. There was a carrier in the Med. You could almost get one from the US in 160 hours. You brief your strike, ferry your aircraft to Sicily and operate from there until the carrier gets there.

a reply to: network dude

Air time between Tripoli and Benghazi is listed as 1:15. It's an hour from Italy.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Boom.

No excuses...

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

That's time once they're airborne. It was probably at least 45 minutes to an hour to have the aircraft ready and everything loaded. Then it's a matter of if they air drop or land and go overland. So you're looking at 2-2:30 minimum most likely to get there from either, unless you just happen to have an aircraft sitting with engines running and most of what they need loaded already.

a reply to: seeker1963

Well we no longer have a President who wants to blame videos and America for religious extremists killing America.

a reply to: donktheclown

Then maybe they should not have attacked the US troops?

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Seeing how Trump gave his command to the Generals and people under him, most of which served under Obama your claim is baseless. It is not like the training involved changed in any way. The JSOC involved are the best of the best and that is that.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

And those same commanders were fighting with both hands tied behind their back under Obama at times. They were having to call higher headquarters to get permission for firing artillery, if it was even in the direction of a village at one point. I also hear stories of having to call Washington for permission for some things.

a reply to: Zaphod58

At the very moment those troops came under fire no matter what president was in power the choice to defend themselves was up to them. Not TPTB. They did what they had to do as they would have no matter what.