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Creator god or intelligent design, the facts that inform the theory?

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posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:34 PM
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You have zero verifiable evidence lol




posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: luthier

I studied philosophy, and I read Boyers bull#, it's bull# fella lol
Speculative bull#.


What verifiable proof do you have you studied philosophy, read Boyer's BS
edit on 29-5-2018 by luthier because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
You have zero verifiable evidence lol


It doesn't require any.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: luthier

You have zero verifiable evidence that any god created the world, just speculative philosophical argument...lame as # lol



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: luthier

You have zero verifiable evidence that any god created the world, just speculative philosophical argument...lame as # lol


What verifiable evidence do you have that is lame?

That sounds like an opinion or belief.

I don't have any nor do I believe in god. I just find your beliefs juvenile and have a lack of understanding of reality. You don't even know the belief in god isn't a scientific question.

It's a philosophical one.

You hold a belief philosophy is not important. And therefor choose to not understand it. Even though you can't verify this.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: luthier

I don't believe in anything which is unverifiable, that includes gods, goblins, ghosts, and even souls.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: luthier

I don't believe in anything which is unverifiable, that includes gods, goblins, ghosts, and even souls.


Cool. The belief that that makes you special or better is unverifiable.

As boyer did well proving humans are predesposed to the idea. Since you can't object to his anthropological cognitive reasoning it's obvious you just simply don't believe him as a belief with no proof against his argument.

You also seem to believe God is the same as goblins. Which is another false statement. You would have to specify which God, since this was about a designer I assume you mean the concept of a designer is the same as a goblin. Which is a false equivelancy.

You also se to hold the belief that this is a scientific question.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: luthier

Oh behave lol, you have nothing exept faith, you're as bad as Raggedyarse



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: luthier

Oh behave lol, you have nothing exept faith, you're as bad as Raggedyarse


Your statement makes no sense, is not verified, is a strawman, and is a belief.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: luthier

Lol, I'll do the same as Raggedy, stick to the OP, what evidence have you got to support claims of a creator god?
Evidence now, not philosophical speculation.

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Oh, and I'm faithless, I believe nothing which cannot be verified.
edit on 29-5-2018 by CornishCeltGuy because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: luthier

Lol, I'll do the same as Raggedy, stick to the OP, what evidence have you got to support claims of a creator god?
Evidence now, not philosophical speculation.


You would have to ask a scientific question to get a scientific answer.

But you didn't.

Fine tuning is what is used in philosophy by apologists but again it's not a scientific question to begin with.

Philosophical speculation is what most of cosmology is..

Can you disprove god?

No?

Because it's not a scientific question.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: luthier

I don't try to disprove a creator god, I just don't believe due to lack of verifiable evidence to support the claims.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

So what.

It's meaningless. Why should I care what you don't believe in?

The fact remains you can not disprove god. It can not be proven.

Therefor not science. Does not require evidence.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: luthier

You care enough to keep replying here lol
You've got nothing but phillosophical speculation, lame at best



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Proof of an intelligent designer is far from proof of a particular specific deity, or even a deity at all.

Just because our only examples of complex, coded things were created by humans in a relatively short period of time, it does not mean that the only yet unexplained example of something that appears coded -- life -- could not have arisen "randomly" given enough time and variation.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I do because of the ignorance this is a scientific question.

It's philosophy. Hence the philosophical replies.

You also can't argue against anything but use belief. Like its lame.

two replies to you from the cost thing possible to science

One it's a cognitive evolutionary trait. Which has scientific evidence.

Two fine tuning.


You lost tell debate pages ago with straw men and ad hominem falacies.

In the world of science and philosophy actual rebuttals are necessary. Not beliefs.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: luthier

Meh, more philosophical speculation bull# lol



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

More belief based replies by you. Prove it

Why is fine tuning a bad argument?

Can you prove we aren't predisposed to believe in god?



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: luthier

This thread is asking you to prove it, and you can't lol, just philosophical speculative bull#.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:53 PM
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Come on creationists, where is your evidence?
If it is so obvious then share it with the class.



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