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Creator god or intelligent design, the facts that inform the theory?

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posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined

Lmao the bible ain't evidence mate, just an old book




posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: luthier

I hold no beliefs just a perception of my current existence as processed in my mind.
Now, where is your verifiable evidence to support claims of gods?



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

What is verifiable evidence. You keep evading that.

Is it a priori or a posteriori?



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:41 AM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: Deetermined

Lmao the bible ain't evidence mate, just an old book


Your lack of substance comments are getting old and tiresome. Why don't you make yourself useful and make a comment that holds a true argument instead of mindless babble.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: luthier

So you have nothing except speculation and philosophical argument then?
Come back with some supporting verifiable evidence and I'll listen lol



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined

I'm asking for verifiable evidence of a creator god and you clearly have none to offer except speculative babble

edit on 26-5-2018 by CornishCeltGuy because: stupid auto correct



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy


I hold no beliefs just a perception of my current existence as processed in my mind.


What is your perception as processed in your mind? Do you care to share? I'm guessing not, as I don't truly believe that you even possess as much as a perception of anything from your history of comments.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined

What is your verifiable evidence to support claims of gods?



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:45 AM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: luthier

So you have nothing except speculation and philosophical argument then?
Come back with some supporting verifiable evidence and I'll listen lol


What is verifiable evidence. A priori or a posteriori?

How can anyone give you evidence you don't define.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

LOL! You don't even know what the definition of verifiable or evidence is! If your only participation in this thread is to repeat yourself with meaningless babble, maybe we should request that this thread be closed. Otherwise, maybe you should let others discuss the topic, since it's obvious that you're not capable of doing so yourself.


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posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: luthier

Evidence which is testable, repeatable, empirical, you know, verifiable.
It ain't embarrassing to admit you have none fella.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined

So what evidence do you have to support claims of creator gods then aside from speculation and philosophical argument?
I say nothing lol



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:53 AM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Goodbye. I have alerted your thread for lack of discussion and lack of tolerance for discussion from you.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined

Lol sorry you have zero evidence aside from speculation and philosophical argument then.
Alert what you want all day mate, I haven't breached any terms and conditions here lol
Enjoy your blind faith in a creator god



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:56 AM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Woodcarver


Your feelings are brain patterns. As well as your thoughts.


Patterns created by who/what?!
Your brain.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: luthier

Evidence which is testable, repeatable, empirical, you know, verifiable.
It ain't embarrassing to admit you have none fella.


It's pretty embarrassing you can't provide evidence you are qualified to interpret data or reason either?



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: luthier

I'm not making any claims fella, I don't need to provide evidence.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Woodcarver


Your feelings are brain patterns. As well as your thoughts.


Patterns created by who/what?!
Your brain.


How was my brain created? Who or what created it?



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Nobody including physicists have cosmological evidence of original origin.
Agreed.


Nobody has evidence their wife lives them.
I have plenty of evidence supporting claims that people love me, their actions, behaviour towards me, decisions they make which may influence my life etc.
That belief in love from human friends and family is based on experience, which is more than can be said for any gods lol.


Again this isn't true. Some people feel they feel God for various reasons.

Your friends and family can also be explained as mutually beneficial, social contract, or in the case of sociopaths totally manipulative....

Some people take dmt and experience things..

Again there is no proof one way or the other.

Unless you say pray heals or something and then it doesn't. Or I can walk on water and I can't.
When a person claims they can feel god’s love, they must first demonstrate that god exists. And therefore even able to feel.

I can convince you that someone’s wife exists pretty easily, and then by evaluating her actions and her own claims, one can be reasonably convinced that she loves him or not.

We could also hook her up to a brain imaging device and have hard evidence of whether her brain patterns support he claims of love.


Brain patterns don't prove love, they prove either hormone release or parts of the brain that respond to a stimulus. For instance you can hook up an actor playing a character and find the same brain patterns.


A person is in no way required to prove anything to anyone. That is your ego speaking.

The problem here is most people have never thought deeply about any of the meaningsame of observation or how they are altered by the mind and by the senses. Nouema and phenomenon as kant would say.

The ultimate skeptic Hume presents how can you prove anything exists.

Hawkin's last paper was on a 2 d universe. If this is true the whole of our perception is entirely wrong. If we live in a simulation again we are not understanding a epistemological nature.

I am not a true believer. But I find great fault in these simple discussions and thoughts people try to use to dismantle deeper subjects.
Your feelings are brain patterns. As well as your thoughts.


You can't prove that. You can only prove what happens to our biological functions when people are asked questions.
I can demonstrate that all of your functions are biological. Can you demonstrate anything otherwise?



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 09:00 AM
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Can you demonstrate how my brain was created?



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