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Vatican to announce St. Paul's tomb found!!!!

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posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 10:51 PM
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Wow this would be big news if found to br true!

Cool!



Vatican to announce St. Paul's tomb found

Vatican archeologists are preparing to announced they have positively identified the tomb of St. Paul the apostle.

Giorgio Filippi, a specialist with the Vatican Museums, said a sarcophagus that might still contain the apostle's remains was identified in the basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls in Rome, reported Catholic World News.

The independent Catholic news service said the sarcophagus was discovered during excavations in 2002 and 2003 around the basilica in south Rome.




Vatican experts soon will make a public announcement of their discovery, Catholic World News said.

"The tomb that we discovered is the one that the popes and the Emperor Theodosius [A.D. 379- 395] saved and presented to the whole world as being the tomb of the apostle," Filippi said.




Sarcophagus could contain remains of apostle




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posted on Feb, 19 2005 @ 11:46 AM
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Oh great just what they need more bones to worship!



posted on Feb, 19 2005 @ 12:11 PM
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This is OLD news... how can they say thats new? the main alters axis is right above his tomb, they know its there... that was the purpose of putting the alter where it is.. because they KNEW where he was buried.. What are they trying to do? let's hold onto information and make it public when it suits us?...



posted on Feb, 19 2005 @ 12:38 PM
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Good post edsinger!

interesting news, cant wait to her more



posted on Feb, 20 2005 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
Good post edsinger!
interesting news, cant wait to her more


Thanks,

I didn't know and to think that they have that? What about Peter? I would think the Catholics know where he is buried also.

Now the conspiracy theorists in here will be looking for the grave of Christ...........but of course its empty.



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by edsinger
Now the conspiracy theorists in here will be looking for the grave of Christ...........but of course its empty.


Now, they have found a cave in Israel, which is believed to be the tomb of Christ, the one he was put in after he was taken down from the cross.



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 10:32 AM
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I believe the Vatican is pursuing a selective timed agenda, to which the offical discovery of St. Paul's tomb will be released. First, Pope John II will most likely pass, a new Pontiff will be named and the discovery of St. Paul's tomb will follow shortly.

This will increase renown interest and attention in the Catholic faith.



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 10:51 AM
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Here is the Catholic World News article on it.


sarcophagus which may contain the remains of St. Paul was identified in the basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls, reports Giorgio Filippi, a archeology specialist with the Vatican Museums.


It would be an intersting vindication of gospel stories, since there are questions as to who exactly existed back then and where they died and were raised. Paul dying in rome would be an intersting confirmation, and having it on the site of a Catholic Basilica would certianly be good PR for the RCC.

They say they won't open it, I'd like to see them do that tho and perform genetic tests on the body in there. It would be interesting to know something about the genetics of any of the apostles, not that there'd be any reason to think that there'd be anything ususual about them. I'd like to see if this bodies information matches with the expected population of tarsus and turkey at the time.

Paul is intersting of course because he's the only apostle who had nothign to do with the actual jesus ministry, having only ever 'met' christ in an ecstatic vision.



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by dnero6911
because they KNEW where he was buried

The people who built that altar knew paul was buried there, not the RCC. The RCC didn't even exist during the apostolic period, no modern church did.
This is information that was lost and has been recovered.


edsinger
I would think the Catholics know where he is buried also.

www.newadvent.org...
Tomb of St. Peter and also St Paul.

It also notes that the site talked about know is where the apostle Paul is supposed to be buried. Whats different now is that the actual sarcophagus has been discovered.



infinite
they have found a cave in Israel, which is believed to be the tomb of Christ

When was this? They can't possibly ID any crypt as belong to an obscure jewish zealot.



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 04:57 PM
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Nygdan they have found it. They found the cloth he was burried in. There was an imprinit of Jesus' face on the negatives of the picture they took



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 05:08 PM
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If this is true then it will definitely be an interesting story.
I read 'Angels & Demons' a few months ago and remember that the story had St Peter's tomb in a massive underground catacombs (more like a cavern) under the Vatican. It made me wonder about the possibility of other apostles also being around that area, and lo and behold, now this thread comes to light.



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Croat56
There was an imprinit of Jesus' face on the negatives of the picture they took

What difference should that make?

Is that the only 'evidence'? Who is 'they'? Where is the evidence currently? Why were they taking pictures of that cave, and who says its the face of jesus?


ravenna
It made me wonder about the possibility of other apostles also being around that area, and lo and behold, now this thread comes to light.

Peter and Pauls traditional remains were moved from the current repositiories to a temporary one during some part of the persecution, perhaps thats the catacombs story. But its already tradtional that the two of them died and were buried in rome, indeed, its St Pauls basilica, its allways supposed to have had his remains in it. This current finding is that they foudn the actula sarcophagus.



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 05:17 PM
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Now I remember why you were on my ignore list Nygdan


EDIT: Say hello to it once again


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posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 08:05 PM
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In the beginning, St. Paul was once known as Saul of Tarsus, an Anatolian Mithraist. Much of the very beginning of Christianity's history is attributed to St. Paul's (Saul's) effort to Hellenize the Christian faith from the strict Judaic strain of Rabbi Jesus' faith (in which a follower must first convert to Judaism to embrace and follow Jesus' teachings as a non-Jewish Gentile). St. Paul made it easy for non-Jewish folks to convert to the Christian faith without necessarily having to convert to Judaism.

There are two Christian faiths: the orthodox Judaic-based Christianity, which is now known as the Eastern/Greek Orthodox Christianity; and the conventional Pauline-based Christianity which is now known as the Latin/Roman Catholic Christianity. Mithraism, an enigmatic oriental religion originated from India and Persia, have deep influences on Christianity, some of its beliefs were gradually blended into the Roman Christian strain over the times.



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by CmptrN3rd5
Now I remember why you were on my ignore list Nygdan

Er? Oh well.


the_oleneo
In the beginning, St. Paul was once known as Saul of Tarsus, an Anatolian Mithraist

What supports that idea? I have not heard it before.



posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

the_oleneo
In the beginning, St. Paul was once known as Saul of Tarsus, an Anatolian Mithraist

What supports that idea? I have not heard it before.


Go here: www.borndigital.com...



posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 05:46 PM
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What difference should that make?

Is that the only 'evidence'? Who is 'they'? Where is the evidence currently? Why were they taking pictures of that cave, and who says its the face of jesus?


Good point. In fact there is some evidence to suggest that Da Vinci may have faked the "shroud of turin" using mirrors, chemicals, and a model. There is also an uncanny facial resemblence between the "image" on the shroud & Da Vinci's self-portrait.


This is OLD news... how can they say thats new? the main alters axis is right above his tomb, they know its there... that was the purpose of putting the alter where it is.. because they KNEW where he was buried.. What are they trying to do? let's hold onto information and make it public when it suits us?...


I think you are referring to St. Peter, who is allegedly buried directly beneath the main altar in St. Peter's Basilica, where several popes are buried.

MK



posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 09:11 PM
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Sad but ots looks like the Pope might be moving on, a new pope, Pauls body found interesting times indeed.....



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