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Art Of The Deal For Dummies - North Korea Edition.

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posted on May, 26 2018 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: highvein
Trumps works from a leverage position. None of the others wanted to use leverage publicly because they had their, cough, reputations to consider. I think someone mentioned that they have a public view and also a private view, which is short for hypocrisy.

The one's who hate Trump let that same hate blind their judgment on any scenario in regards to Trump.

If you can't predict the end of this scenario then....



What is Trump's leverage? Being in charge of the most powerful nation on the planet. It is really not that complicated.


I don't know how a drawing of a young Donald Trump helps your argument any?




posted on May, 26 2018 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus


AND NOW THIS.

SEE WHO IS NOT IN THIS PICTURE?

TRUMP IS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO GIVE SOUTH KOREA TRADE AND INFLUENCE TO THE CHINESE.

North and South Korean leaders hold surprise meeting
www.cnn.com...

THIS is an EFF U to the USA.

Kim is showing that he can get everything he wants without negotiating with the USA.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 11:27 AM
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To use Alt-Right Lexicon.

Kim has made Trump, and by unfortunate extension, the USA the "Cuck" in the peace deal.

Trump is the worst negotiator ever.

North and South Korean leaders hold surprise meeting
www.cnn.com...




posted on May, 26 2018 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

If this was the Obama admin making the deal, the skids of reparation money would already be shipped.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 11:34 AM
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Must be a rough week in leftsville, because there have been some doozies the past few days.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

You are not up to date with the ZTE agreements.

😎🇺🇸



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

You are behind the times on that too !!

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posted on May, 26 2018 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I'm just glad they are talking, damn a few months ago everybody was freaking that Orange Hitler was going to start a nuclear war ,now North Korea and South Korea are talking and now people are worried about losing trade to North Korea LOL. If something long lasting sticks from this talks the doomsday clock will possibly reverse a few minutes or at least pause a little,lets start there and understand how historic a NK/SK agreement could be, let all the business dealings come later. Pretty sure SK isn't gonna forget their biggest ally the one that sent troops on the ground and backed them tirelessly ever since, and was the big dog behind the fence that was an impetus for the talks to begin with. Not to mention when did America ever get so damn concerned that they couldn't compete in a free and fair trade market. Not a Trumpette but don't have my head in the sand either, worried that NK/SK are talking. Japan another huge ally in the region is probably breathing easier and they too know the value of the US's defense treaty. Damn sure they appreciate the backing from the US. The world seems slightly safer, first time since the 1990's you could really even begin to think that, who cares what or who is the reason for right now. Anybody who can't see that has their head stuck up their agenda.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I'm just glad they are talking, damn a few months ago everybody was freaking that Orange Hitler was going to start a nuclear war ,now North Korea and South Korea are talking and now people are worried about losing trade to North Korea LOL. If something long lasting sticks from this talks the doomsday clock will possibly reverse a few minutes or at least pause a little,lets start there and understand how historic a NK/SK agreement could be, let all the business dealings come later. Pretty sure SK isn't gonna forget their biggest ally the one that sent troops on the ground and backed them tirelessly ever since, and was the big dog behind the fence that was an impetus for the talks to begin with. Not to mention when did America ever get so damn concerned that they couldn't compete in a free and fair trade market. Not a Trumpette but don't have my head in the sand either, worried that NK/SK are talking. Japan another huge ally in the region is probably breathing easier and they too know the value of the US's defense treaty. Damn sure they appreciate the backing from the US. The world seems slightly safer, first time since the 1990's you could really even begin to think that, who cares what or who is the reason for right now. Anybody who can't see that has their head stuck up their agenda.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

And if it failed it would be "well at least he tried".



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

So NK cancels their meeting with SK. Trump cancels with NK and NK is then compelled to meet for peace talks .. and Trump is bad.

You people are hilarious, delusional, but hilarious.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Metallicus
Your title is appropriate. You would have to be a dummy to not appreciate the progress being made. Unlike the Iran deal, Trump is working to get a good deal for America instead of a deal to look cool to his ivory tower friends.


Yes.. Trump cares about REAL peace. But couldn't give a rats ass about the Nobel Peace Prize. Particularly after Obama was awarded it for smiling the right way, and bowing really low when meeting Saudi royalty.


Lol.

1. Donnie bowed just the same.
2. If you think he wouldn't be absolutely creaming himself to get the NPP you're absolutely deluded. He'd stuff it down our necks every available opportunity and brag about how his is better than Obama's.

Bottom line is that this man is utterly obsessed with getting one over on obama - he's utterly obsessed.

Donnie cares only about himself and his bank balance. He never even wanted to be president, he just wanted more limelight and an opportunity to whine more about how rigged the elections are and how terrible the electoral college system is (except when it works in his favour. Another 180).



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: fencesitter85

Peace is the real prize.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 04:41 PM
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Gloating about this or that is not so smart at this point if your goal is peace.

I see it more as a great opportunity on both sides.

Tell yourself whatever you want but do not ignore the facts.

North Korea is nuclear now.

The msm can spin it however they want but the goal was to acquire nuclear weapons and be treated like the rest of the countries by being ready to use the hardware if necessary or the more preferred goal of disarmament for a seat at the table.

Their are people in both countries that do not want the peace to succeed.



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

You understand these other world leaders that are hostile towards us are afraid due to exactly what you post about. There is no ryhm or reason to what he does, he very open and forward and does what he says. That alone is scaring the # out of them. See with leaders like Obama and all the others whether Republican or Democrat couldn't do what trump is doing because trump just doesn't #ing care and a leader that doesnt care along with the military we have will not push the envelope with him. It's crazy that due to his attitude and character it's enough to set things straight that haven't been set straight in decades



posted on May, 26 2018 @ 06:14 PM
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Ever since the first two atomic bombs were unleashed; what Mao designated as 3rd world countries... or tribal lands full of mysticism and folklore have feared being taken over by those scientifically and technologically superior. Nothing wrong with the old ways as many continue such practice, under the banners of freedom, where word and deed is not scrutinized down to the finest detail... a life your own life by your own path regarding all one comes across even the fool as a teacher.

So those countries feeling threatened? See gaining nuclear arms; as a safety net or blanket... ask the one country that had two of them dropped right on their heads unsuspectingly, in an imperialist system that said if you do not join the military force your families will be killed. It was not difficult to find Zero pilots after such force was used; in the art of war all such tactics are used... those to torture not only the body, but also to control speech, and then of course twist or wrap the mind into submission.

Even the US has banned book lists, people they see as subversive to the so called "norm" of course disruption of any society is not seen as a good thing; so of course nanny laws are not needed when there is the social norm of the various pecking orders depending on groups; and all of these various groups, continually peck each other to death... seeking to absorb and to assimilate them into whatever various culture or group; some of these investigated have been found to have no ill effects; however guilty by association means... you are judged by the company you keep even if that means, you have good intentions... such as designating oneself as a sober driver for friends in college.

How are they truly one's friends though? Cheap housing to live holed up altogether in some dank pit? What do you think those savings are for? More alcohol and cheap entertainment of course. Does that also include you; as that so called friend? Well, the same sort of thing can be seen all over the world; and of course wisdom can be gained from any all all paths taken... no matter what cradle, ladle, or grave involved and all inbetween.

We all pass a legacy as life on this planet; and we all manipulate all of the resources on it to do the same; wisdom from both; is of course required for total peace between the two... or else of course; the entire planet becomes inhabbital. Greed, Hate and of course Delusion continues to stir the pot or well of ignorance that all of that duality and fighting keeps springing from. Causing a lot of surface tension between all life... when something has to give? Selfless action is best; of course when that is a call to service? Many stop or cease that at their own front door, their extended family, or their local community, or their state, or their country... instead of seeing and appreciating the vast richness, to be seen and held in the heart of the eyes, the ears, the nose, the tongue, and the feeling of that love all pervading space above and below; allowing things to simply be lay to rest.

So much fight over what can be held in two hands and trodden upon by two feet; when if so blessed with all one's senses and limbs; then the eyes, ears, nose, and mouth... free from greed, hate, and delusion to spread ignorance can hold and let go without any hands or feet involved, the pain however in doing so can no longer be said to be one's own. That to be honest is what true or real freedom actually is. Holding something in mind eventually grows poison, even if it is considered something good, eventually one finds that good sours, then it bitters, and then one cannot stand to even be around it until it is finally seen full circle.

I personally implore all society, and groups no matter how large or small worldwide to take the time that they within and as an individual to explore instead of be told... rote is not knowledge, rote is learning until that full lesson blossoms, into the beautiful flower that it was intended to.

Take care



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posted on May, 26 2018 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

Uggh past presidents are not worth talking about after their administration ends unless they re-enter the public sector with helping hands; like Jimmy Carter that has worked near ceaselessly for the Habitat for Humanity in building homes for the poor and disabled.

Those working only to make a buck or two resting on their laurels are leeches on the system sold out and bought to play a part in office; instead of benefiting American culture they were said to represent.

Obama sent Billions to Africa to help his ancestors and bought a lot of property to retire too in Ireland(at least that's what the press stated) so give back? Hmm I guess farmers and actors make a better bunch; as one knows the land that gives and the other knew how to separate playing a role from reality.

The old Andrew Jackson posters and propaganda could be very well used and illustrated on the Bush family; having dogged American politics for well over 20 years combined; when Cheney told Obama they were related; is when they got in good with the buddy buddy and bloodline nonsense to continue acting as a CEO instead of a Commander in Chief...

Hell to whatever Chef that refuses to cook those sorts of turkeys.

This is both political truth and satire; as where are any real victors in this rat trap they call a race? No real top no real bottom and balance well just see the expense reports.

Aid is many times just a pork barrel for personal projects... I have not ever voted for a Republican or a Democrat; I have always been Independent meaning; BEST PERSON FIT FOR THE JOB... be it local, state, or national.

Politically; the state that I reside in is about as corrupt if not worse than the one South of us; and that one has been deemed more politically corrupt than a 3rd world country. 40 plus years of any Senator with palms greased from one party did this state in... wolves in sheeps clothing is the typical, in the we are one of you... until of course office is gained... then it's hey remember who carried you to that position... not who actually paid and continues to pay for it.

Anyways, there's a reason people say avoid talking about politics and religion as to some it would seem indeterminable of a distinction between either.


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posted on May, 27 2018 @ 03:19 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus




I don't know how a drawing of a young Donald Trump helps your argument any?


The same way your humorous, anti-Trump stance Is the very essence of the drawing without you even knowing it. It helps my argument that way.



posted on May, 27 2018 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: fencesitter85

Peace is the real prize.


Peace is easy. Just give Kim everything he wants.



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: fencesitter85

Peace is the real prize.


Peace is easy. Just give Kim everything he wants.


Yeah thats how you deal with the human rights violations, and extreme conditions his populace has been forced to live in.




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