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Man who bought 12 guns for serial killer pleads guilty

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posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:09 PM
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COLUMBIA, S.C. – A South Carolina man has pleaded guilty to buying guns for an acquaintance who shot seven people to death, admitting he made the purchases despite knowing that the killer had a previous felony conviction and couldn't legally have the weapons.

Dustan Lawson could face hundreds of years in prison when he is sentenced at a later date. Each of the 36 weapons charges to which he pleaded guilty on Wednesday carry up to 10 years in prison. But his actual sentence will likely be far less.

Lawson admitted buying at least 12 guns and five silencers from 2012 to 2016, saying they were for himself when he was actually giving them to Todd Kohlhepp.

Kohlhepp, 47, killed four people in a Spartanburg County motorcycle shop in 2002 and three more people on his property 13 years later. They were all shot.

Source: Man who bought 12 guns for serial killer pleads guilty

So, it seems that in yet another case we have someone who doesn't give a crap about the existing gun control laws, blatantly ignoring them by making a strawman purchase for a known felon. The result, 7 dead people at the hands of that felon. See folks, criminals will not follow or honor the laws in place, what makes anyone in their right mind think that adding MORE laws will change that? All it will do is to add more burden upon those that will follow the laws, and further infringe upon their protected 2nd Amendment rights. In addition, it in effect punishes the innocent for the crimes of the guilty.

I hope this particular scumbag never sees the light of day. The courts better not negotiate this down and let him off in any way at all.




posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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So the known felon should have been allowed to buy the guns himself?



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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No law on the books, whither or not it's enforced will fix stupid.



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: wheresthebody
So the known felon should have been allowed to buy the guns himself?


How in the world did you interpret it in that fashion?

Seriously?

MORE laws are not the answer. That is the point I made. IF they will not follow the laws in place, they will not follow any NEW laws.



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:17 PM
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What a dumbass.
"Hey man, can you buy me a dozen guns and five silencers."
"Yeah, sure man."
Know when to say hell no.



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:20 PM
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Here are the laws broken:

Kohlhepp:
7 counts of murder

Lawson:
13 counts of making a false statement to purchase a gun
13 counts of transferring a firearm to a felon
5 counts of transferring a silencer device to a person not allowed to have one
5 and five counts of making a false statement to obtain a silencer.

So, in total these scumbag criminals violated 5 separate laws. Four of which are gun laws that exist on the books right now.



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa


What could have been done to avoid this situation in the first place?



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: Krakatoa


What could have been done to avoid this situation in the first place?


The killer could have not been let out of prison for his earlier conviction of kidnapping and rape when he was 15.


Kohlhepp was barred from having guns because he was a convicted felon. He moved to South Carolina in 2001 after spending 14 years in prison for kidnapping in Arizona. Authorities there said that the then-15-year-old forced a 14-year-old neighbor back to his home at gunpoint, tied her up and raped her.


Why let scum like this back into society?



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa


So, it seems that in yet another case we have someone who doesn't give a crap about the existing gun control laws, blatantly ignoring them by making a strawman purchase for a known felon.


Yeah, sure you could remain totally ignorant and look at it like that...

Or you could just accept reality and realize that basically every single first world country (other than the US) on earth, have laws in place, which wouldn't have allowed this POS strawman purchaser to buy the guns for someone else in the first place.
edit on 24-5-2018 by Subaeruginosa because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Krakatoa


So, it seems that in yet another case we have someone who doesn't give a crap about the existing gun control laws, blatantly ignoring them by making a strawman purchase for a known felon.


Yeah, sure you could remain totally ignorant and look at it like that...

Or you could just accept reality and realize that basically every single first world country (other than the US) on earth, have laws in place, which wouldn't have allowed this POS straw purchaser to buy the guns for someone else in the first place.


Please, enlighten us and list these laws of which you speak.



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: skunkape23

no, you cant buy silencers like that, it takez a full year of background checks and a living trust on your weapons...



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: skunkape23

no, you cant buy silencers like that, it takez a full year of background checks and a living trust on your weapons...


You can't buy the silencers LEGALLY like that you mean. On the black market you can get them just like that.



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: BlueJacket

I know Im in the process..only to be kinder to my very few neighbors out here in the sticks



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

fair enough, but laws and gun control dont control criminals



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

buddy I can make them, but I dont for a variety of reasons. the gun control argument is a dead horse



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Krakatoa

fair enough, but laws and gun control dont control criminals


Yes, which is the crux of my OP and making of this thread.

More laws will not stop people determined to kill others. No law will do that, not even banning an item since it can be had on the black market.



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Krakatoa


So, it seems that in yet another case we have someone who doesn't give a crap about the existing gun control laws, blatantly ignoring them by making a strawman purchase for a known felon.


Yeah, sure you could remain totally ignorant and look at it like that...

Or you could just accept reality and realize that basically every single first world country (other than the US) on earth, have laws in place, which wouldn't have allowed this POS straw purchaser to buy the guns for someone else in the first place.


Please, enlighten us and list these laws of which you speak.



Any gun purchased needs to be documented and registered to the "lawful gun owner"... Which essentially makes strawman purchases impossible.



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Krakatoa


So, it seems that in yet another case we have someone who doesn't give a crap about the existing gun control laws, blatantly ignoring them by making a strawman purchase for a known felon.


Yeah, sure you could remain totally ignorant and look at it like that...

Or you could just accept reality and realize that basically every single first world country (other than the US) on earth, have laws in place, which wouldn't have allowed this POS straw purchaser to buy the guns for someone else in the first place.


Please, enlighten us and list these laws of which you speak.



Any gun purchased needs to be documented and registered to the "lawful gun owner"... Which essentially makes strawman purchases impossible.


HAHAHAAHA.... SERIOUSLY??? You actually believe that?

What does a registry do? Magically stop someone from ignoring the law and selling it to someone anyways?

Open those eyes, and realize how these scumbags think.


ETA:
Let me give you a possible scenario around that registry idea.

Massachusetts has one of the most strict set of gun control laws in the country....including a state registry, background checks, the works. Do you think it would stop someone form legally purchasing a weapon, then selling it to a felon like this guy. next thing to do is report it to the local PD as "stolen". Filing a false report you say, illegal? Yes, but in this example, the person doesn't give a furry rats behind since the profit made by selling it to the felon could have been worth the risk.

I guess that registry didn't do squat in this scenario, did it?


edit on 5/24/2018 by Krakatoa because: Added possible workaround to a gun registry



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:54 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Krakatoa


So, it seems that in yet another case we have someone who doesn't give a crap about the existing gun control laws, blatantly ignoring them by making a strawman purchase for a known felon.


Yeah, sure you could remain totally ignorant and look at it like that...

Or you could just accept reality and realize that basically every single first world country (other than the US) on earth, have laws in place, which wouldn't have allowed this POS straw purchaser to buy the guns for someone else in the first place.


Please, enlighten us and list these laws of which you speak.



Any gun purchased needs to be documented and registered to the "lawful gun owner"... Which essentially makes strawman purchases impossible.


HAHAHAAHA.... SERIOUSLY??? You actually believe that?

What does a registry do? Magically stop someone from ignoring the law and selling it to someone anyways?


They could report it as stolen the first time... But that excuse would quickly grow old.

Kinda like burning your house down for the insurance money... It may work the first time... But your really playing with fire, if you try doing it a second time... lol.
edit on 24-5-2018 by Subaeruginosa because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Krakatoa


So, it seems that in yet another case we have someone who doesn't give a crap about the existing gun control laws, blatantly ignoring them by making a strawman purchase for a known felon.


Yeah, sure you could remain totally ignorant and look at it like that...

Or you could just accept reality and realize that basically every single first world country (other than the US) on earth, have laws in place, which wouldn't have allowed this POS straw purchaser to buy the guns for someone else in the first place.


Please, enlighten us and list these laws of which you speak.



Any gun purchased needs to be documented and registered to the "lawful gun owner"... Which essentially makes strawman purchases impossible.


HAHAHAAHA.... SERIOUSLY??? You actually believe that?

What does a registry do? Magically stop someone from ignoring the law and selling it to someone anyways?


They could report it stolen the first time... But that excuse quickly would grow old.

Kinda like burning your house down for the insurance money... It may work the first time... But your really playing with fire, if you try doing it a second time... lol.


All it took here was one time...didn't it?

But you keep moving the goal posts when you argument is proven lacking in reality.





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