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originally posted by: karmicecstasy
As soon as I read that Meek Mills was not attending the prison reform summit because Jay Z called him and told him the optics would be bad if he went. I knew that certain factions on the left were gonna go into overdrive and double down on more nonsense.
Prison reform is needed. Who cares whose name is behind the effort. Or if there is a little D or R next to their name. All that matter is that the reform starts to happen. But you know the optics are bad so lets shoot ourselves in the foot.
Trump Sets Private Prisons Free
Thu February 15, 2018
Senators of both parties on Thursday moved forward their long-odds legislation to enact some degree of reform for the federal criminal justice system.
By a vote of 16-5, and amid protests from some senators that the bill would likely face hurdles too high to pass, the Senate Judiciary Committee backed the Sentencing Reform and Corrections Act, a package to reduce some of the strictest federal sentencing rules along with reforms for the federal prison system.
Ahead of the vote, Chairman Chuck Grassley expressed anger with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who he called a friend, for coming out against the bill.
Cornyn and Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island expressed skepticism a week before the committee markup that the comprehensive package would make it into law, given Sessions' express opposition.
Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont said Sessions' opposition "can't be excuse for inaction," and GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said that of the two major components, "I don't see how you do one without the other."
"I am for prison reform, but I am also for reform of why people stay in jail so long," Graham said.
www.cnn.com...
S. 1917: Sentencing Reform and Corrections Act of 2017:
A committee has voted to issue a report to the full chamber recommending that the bill be considered further
www.govtrack.us...
Why don't they just include Sentencing Reform and Corrections Act with this prison reform act, and make everyone happy?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: nwtrucker
That's not true. Obama severed ties between for profit prisons and the federal government, but Trump brought those arrangements back. Trump also rolled back the LGBT protections that the Obama Admin had established.
Obama order the Justice Department to lay off medical and recreational marajuana states, and recomended federal prosecutors charge fewer people with low-level, nonviolent drug crimes and instead focus on more serious, violent crime.
Obama banned solitary confinement for minors and limited it for adult inmates. He opened college grants for 12,000 more inmates. He made it easier for felons to reenter society and the work force by banning the box that required them to admit they are felons to prospective landlords and employers. Giving them a clean start after paying their debt to society.
Sorry, this legislation is an improvement.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: nwtrucker
Schools don't put kids in jail. Judges do. That's where the sentencing guidelines and requirements come in.
Judges don’t put people in jail...people that commit crimes put themselves in jail.
Also, if you want to stop prison overpopulation then don’t criminalize victimless crimes. Unless there is a victim of person or property there shouldn’t be a crime.
The Judicial Dept and Judges put people in jail. There are tons of white collar criminals who judges choose not to imprison. So, your mantra, people put themselves in jail, doesn't work.
originally posted by: TamtammyMacx
The Dems have been introducing bills to allow felons to vote. Just as in Europe. What happens in Europe happens in the states. They know this is all about a new voting demographic.
originally posted by: toysforadults
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Grambler
Trump should come out as "Pro Oxygen" so leftists would stop breathing.
glad to see the lexicon changing from liberals to leftist
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Grambler
Thanks for posting the actual Democrat response. It seems in reality the Democrats wanted better prison reform than Trump was willing to offer, but somehow you’ve spun that into Trump exposing Democrat hypocrisy.
I think you’d make a great republican politician.
Yes they wanted more, so they are against things they want.
It is hypocrisy.
If trump says "I want Obamacare rolled back and I want abortion made illegal!"
And the democrats say "Ok we will roll back Obamacare"
It would be hypocritical nonsense for Trump to say "I refuse to accept your rollback of Obamacrae, because it doesnt give me everything I want!"
It would be clear at that point that Trump wanted to play politics more than he cared about helping people from rolling back Obama care.
I guess if you’re thirsty and somebody pees in a glass and hands it to you and you don’t drink it, you’re a hypocrite.
Hypocrite!
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler
Do you have link to the statement that the Democrats put out?
From I've read in your article, it seems that Democrats want more from the bill. They want it to address HOW people get to prison in the first place by addressing sentencing guidelines and requirements. For me, the school to prison pipeline is very disturbing.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: nwtrucker
Schools don't put kids in jail. Judges do. That's where the sentencing guidelines and requirements come in.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: nwtrucker
Sorry, this legislation is an improvement.
I'm not saying it isn't. I haven't read it and am not familiar with it. All I know is that lawmakers think it should include sentencing reform too. So, what's the problem with adding it? It was a bi-partisan bill that overwhelmingly passed the house.