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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff
No one tortured Mike Flynn. Please. He'd be on tv screaming about being framed but he's not.
when you commit crimes then plead guilty these tend to be the consequences
Friday is the deadline for the FBI and Justice Department to give the Senate Judiciary Committee key documents in the Michael Flynn case.
It won't happen, because that's not how the current FBI and Justice Department deal with congressional demands involving the Trump-Russia affair. But sooner or later, Judiciary Chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, is likely to get his way.
In a May 11 letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, Grassley noted that more than a year ago, on Feb. 15, 2017, the Judiciary Committee requested a copy of the transcript of a Dec. 2016 phone call between Flynn and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. It was that call that led the FBI to go to the White House to question the newly installed national security adviser on Jan. 24, 2017, just four days into the Trump administration. And it was that questioning that led to Flynn pleading guilty to lying to the FBI.
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The Judiciary Committee request was bipartisan. But the Justice Department refused to hand over the document. Instead, then-FBI Director James Comey briefed the committee on Flynn and other issues on March 15, 2017.
Now, with Flynn awaiting sentencing, Grassley wants the information he asked for more than a year ago. Plus, he wants the FBI agents' contemporaneous report on the interview, known as a 302, and any other notes or documents relating to the interview (the interview was not recorded.)
It seems certain that the Justice Department, in conjunction with Mueller's office, will refuse, citing an ongoing investigation. That will be true until Flynn is sentenced, or until his case concludes in some other way.
originally posted by: Moresby
Flynn pled guilty.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: DBCowboy
1. Trump can declassify anything. If it is literally this bad he would.
I love this argument. Trump camn also fire anybody in tje FBI if he wants.
But that led to screams of obstruction of justice. Now the very same people demanding trump be impeached are saying trump can declassify anything he wants, like they wont just scream impeachment and obstruction louder if he does that.
2. The only proof is what the media presents. Confirmation bias to their partisans.
I have posted many things that sbhow how shady this investigation is. They are just usually ignored by the anti trump crowd.
Here is a small starter for you.
And yes, of course we only see what has been publicly reported, but that alone is pretty damning.
3. Of course republicans knew these committees didn't just form. The oversight was present the whole time.
Oversight has been stonewalled for over a year, hence the meeting tomorrow.
4. It's most likely we just don't have the information.
All the more reason for an investigation, yet the anti trumpers are against even that, claiming that one looking into the intel communities behavior would be a horrible abuse of power.
5. The people trump chose including Flynn are shady people.
Agree that trump does have shady people around.
SO what does that have to do with rather the investigation is legit?
Just about everyone in washington is surrounded by shady people. But for some reason, only trumps team got this special treatment.
Why do you think it's only trump's team? That is precious.
Many administration's have had this happen.
Show me one example of any campaign ever habving fisa warrants used to spy on campaign associates?
How about one campaign that had FBI informants spying on campaign members?
Ill wait patiently.
The National Security Agency monitored the phone conversations of 35 world leaders after being given the numbers by an official in another US government department, according to a classified document provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.
The confidential memo reveals that the NSA encourages senior officials in its "customer" departments, such as the White House, State and the Pentagon, to share their "Rolodexes" so the agency can add the phone numbers of leading foreign politicians to their surveillance systems.
The Bush administration authorized secret surveillance activities that still have not been made public, according to a new government report that questions the legal basis for the unprecedented anti-terrorism program.
President George W. Bush authorized other secret intelligence activities — which have yet to become public — even as he was launching the massive warrentless wiretapping program, the summary said. It describes the entire program as the "President's Surveillance Program."
The report describes the program as unprecedented and raises questions about the legal grounding used for its creation. It also says the intelligence agencies' continued retention and use of the information collected under the program should be carefully monitored.
The nation's secret intelligence court has identified more than 75 cases in which it says it was misled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in documents in which the bureau attempted to justify its need for wiretaps and other electronic surveillance, according to the first of the court's rulings to be released publicly.
Monica Lewinsky told yesterday how she was repeatedly threatened with 27 years in prison if she refused to co-operate with Kenneth Starr's prosecutors.
Without allowing her access to legal advice, Ms Lewinsky reveals, prosecutors told her she would be charged with perjury, obstruction of justice, subornation of perjury, witness tampering and conspiracy unless she co-operated in Mr Starr's investigation, and agreed to wear a body wire and record conversations with Mr Clinton, his secretary, Betty Currie, and his friend, Vernon Jordan. They also threatened to bring charges against Ms Lewinsky's mother to compell her to co-operate.
The Lewinsky portion of the investigation included the secret taping of conversations between Lewinsky and coworker Linda Tripp, requests by Starr to tape Lewinsky's conversations with Clinton, and requests by Starr to compel Secret Service agents to testify about what they might have seen while guarding Clinton
Lewinsky’s voice cracked as she recalled the moment in January 1998 when she was first confronted by FBI agents and lawyers working for Kenneth W. Starr’s Office of Independent Counsel, who threatened her and her mother with criminal prosecution if she did not agree to wear a wire against President Bill Clinton.
TextThe Watergate scandal began early in the morning of June 17, 1972, when several burglars were arrested in the office of the Democratic National Committee, located in the Watergate complex of buildings in Washington, D.C. This was no ordinary robbery: The prowlers were connected to President Richard Nixon’s reelection campaign, and they had been caught wiretapping phones and stealing documents. Nixon took aggressive steps to cover up the crime
edit on 24-5-2018 by luthier because: (no reason given)
It’s pretty obvious that Comey and McCabe got together and decided they wanted to frame Flynn because they believed, believe it or not, that he was a danger to the Constitution, not them.