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The messiah is gay

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posted on May, 23 2018 @ 08:19 PM
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John 13:23
King James Bible
Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved



John 13:25
King James Bible
He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?






Revelation 14:4
King James Bible
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb



Elton john


says that Jesus is a very smart gay


www.theguardian.com...




posted on May, 23 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: Kolza
At the moment that we know that the God of the Bible in the Old Testament is Jupiter / Zeus, which means Heaven Father, everything is explained afterwards.


 This verse tells us that there is no difference between the god of the Greeks Zeus and the god of the jews Jehovah.

Roman 10:11
King James Bible
For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him

Jews and Greek are both human. Same species different culture.


originally posted by: Kolza
Jeremiah 10:13
King James Bible
When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures

Zeus can't cause volcanic eruption, tear earth, breath life into dust, command Gabriel, and many others. Zeus rule the realm of water. Jehovah rule everything, fire, water, earth and wind. Zeus frequently interfere directly with human affair, including raped women and had many demigod sons. YHWH did no such things. Anyone who see YHWH directly will not live, therefore, YHWH only communicate through medium, such as his chosen prophets, prayers or dreams, trance state, meditation etc..


originally posted by: Kolza
Job 26:14
King James Bible
Lo, these are parts of his ways: but how little a portion is heard of him? but the thunder of his power who can understand?

Job 37:4
King James Bible
After it a voice roareth: he thundereth with the voice of his excellency; and he will not stay them when his voice is heard

Psalm 29:3
King James Bible
The voice of the LORD is upon the waters: the God of glory thundereth: the LORD is upon many waters

YHWH command everything fire, water, earth and wind. That's right. No one ever see him face to face and live. Even the prophets only hear his voice. Unlike Zeus who always appear in person.



originally posted by: Kolza
Psalm 18:13
King James Bible
The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire

Zues can't hail stones and coals of fire. Earth ( stones ) and Fire is not within his ruling realm. He can cause tornado or storm to hurl stones tho.


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posted on May, 23 2018 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: EasternShadow

originally posted by: Kolza
At the moment that we know that the God of the Bible in the Old Testament is Jupiter / Zeus, which means Heaven Father, everything is explained afterwards.


 This verse tells us that there is no difference between the god of the Greeks Zeus and the god of the jews Jehovah.

Roman 10:11
King James Bible
For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him

Jews and Greek are both human. Same species different culture.


originally posted by: Kolza
Jeremiah 10:13
King James Bible
When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures

Zeus can't cause volcanic eruption, tear earth, breath life into dust, command Gabriel, and many others. Zeus rule the realm of water. Jehovah rule everything, fire, water, earth and wind. Zeus frequently interfere directly with human affair, including raped women and had many demigod sons. YHWH did no such things. Anyone who see YHWH directly will not live, therefore, YHWH only communicate through medium, such as his chosen prophets, prayers or dreams, trance state, meditation etc..


originally posted by: Kolza
Job 26:14
King James Bible
Lo, these are parts of his ways: but how little a portion is heard of him? but the thunder of his power who can understand?

Job 37:4
King James Bible
After it a voice roareth: he thundereth with the voice of his excellency; and he will not stay them when his voice is heard

Psalm 29:3
King James Bible
The voice of the LORD is upon the waters: the God of glory thundereth: the LORD is upon many waters

YHWH command everything fire, water, earth and wind. That's right. No one ever see him face to face and live. Even the prophets only hear his voice. Unlike Zeus who always appear in person.



originally posted by: Kolza
Psalm 18:13
King James Bible
The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire

Zues can't hail stones and coals of fire. Earth ( stones ) and Fire is not within his ruling realm. He can cause tornado or storm to hurl stones tho.












At the end of time the gods will form 1 and he will have only one shepherd and one flock. The Bible does not speak of the present there of the past but of future prophecies but also of the fictitious. the names of the characters are wrong. Example Moses represents the Christ who will save and liberate his people at the end of time, because the people of Christ at the end of time will undergo genocide. Many of the FEMA camps in the United States and Canada have this request, but why ... But it is the fate of the people of Christ of that time.



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: Kolza

John 13:23
King James Bible
Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved



John 13:25
King James Bible
He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?

I won't trust the gospel of John 100%. This are just another example why the Gospel of John is not reliable and credible. Because canon gospels were decided by men, I see no reason why I sould follow their canonize.





originally posted by: Kolza
Revelation 14:4
King James Bible
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb

John of Patmos was in trance state. He was incapable to consciously interpret his own vision. Anyone can interpret his vision to fit their own agenda.



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: EasternShadow






You're right but in the Bible even if he had many gods, the Bible would not say. in Daniel 11: 38-39 it is well zeus who is mentioned

Yhwh also from the four quadrants of the tablets making a sacred name or acronym form each of its letters YHWH or Yod-He-Wah-He correlate to the 4 elementals - fire, water, air and earth.

But But Jehovah pronounced so is a reference to Jupiter
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posted on May, 23 2018 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift
What? No mention of "Secret Mark?" Any good "Jesus as gay" presenter should know that one.


I think Secret Mark was a baptism not a sexual thing.



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: Kolza

Hi Kolza--

Couple o'things for you to consider about R.Yehoshua bar Yosef, the Galilean Nazir (aka 'Jesus') and the possibility of his having homosexual relations with at least some of his disciples.

l. In the canonical Greek Gospels he was called the 'son of David' and had a similar 'relationship of male-to-male love' with one of his male disciples viz. 'Jonathan' (at least if you believe what the 4th Greek canonical Gospel says on the subject, 'according to John' whoever he was) just as the first ('king') David had a homosexual relationship with the first 'Jonathan' (at least, to hear Jonathan's father tell it, 'You son of a perverted and obscene female ! Do you imagine that I do not know that you ave 'chosen-to-marry' the son of Jesse to the confusion of your mother's nudity, and to your own confusion? If you persist in this, how will you [produce sons and thereby] ensure your royal lineage?' [1 Sam 20:30); also phrases like 'Jonathan, Jonathan, how my soul weeps for you--your love to me was full of wonderment, far-surpassing that of any female...' (2 Sam 1:29)

2. In the Passion Narrative of the 4th canonical Greek gospel, 'ho Iesous' has a 'disciple whom he loved' who 'reclined against his nipples' at the so-called Last Supper, sharing whispers.

3. Morton Smith in 1958 came across a paragraph taped to the back of an old book which quoted (in a sloppy Greek shorthand) a transcript of a letter purportedly written by Origen about the Gnostic Carpocratians (who eschewed heterosexuality as 'entrapping more divine souls into flesh-cages', and used male-to-male sexual emissions in their cult-practices) which quoted a part of the Hidden Gospel of Mark which had been excised from the Greek text of the biblical NT book fairly early on in its history: 'Just listen to what these heretics write...for they say that one day Jesus went to the tomb of one of his followers and heard screaming from within...and when he rolled back the stone, a man named Eleazar came forward and grabbed his ankles saying, Son of David have mercy upon me ! And he begged Jesus that he might be with him...so, wearing only a cloth tunic over his naked flesh, Jesus took him and taught him the Mysteries of the Kingdom, and after six ays, he comes to Jesus naked...'

One wonders what homosexual rituals were practiced by the earliest Nazorean communities ?



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: Kolza

naw on that ROM 10...that was Paul....stay with my brother, I wish to have a chat with my new buddy

Paul recieved the mystery of the Heathens....nice of then to call em gentiles, tho I read gentiles meant the greeks coz in another verse it says the gentiles, and the heathen are invited to the wedding feast, since Israel said they would not attend.

meaning recognize their messiah. hey just like in the story of Joseph....at the start he tells his family he had a dream they were all worshipping him

family threw him in a pit

when he saved them, They did not recognize him

that sentence, well defined meaning....Jesus came only for the lost sheep of Israel. Paul got the new assignment then even Peter said yes, after having a dream three times, the new assignment...the heathens are included



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: Sigismundus

I think all these things are controversial. You can believe them but there are also opposing views.

I have never heard of that son of David theory. I know he was called that but why that means David an affair with Jonathan so Jesus must have had an affair with John escapes me.

I have heard the idea that Jesus and John had an affair but this is also disputed. The mainstream view is they did not. Some even claim Jesus was married.

Secret Mark is also controversial. Many believe the letter was forged. It might be true. I think it describes a baptism but Morton Smith did present it in a lurid manner like you're doing here. Best to read it yourself: Secret Mark

You left out not - secret Mark. Mark 14:51-52

51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:

52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.

This has also been interpreted in a lewd way. It doesn't necessarily mean the apostles were having an orgy in the woods when Jesus got arrested.



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 10:08 PM
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You still my buddy? cool



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 10:10 PM
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a reply to: toms54

cool man, Mark 14:51 gotta go looky thank you



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: EasternShadow

You of course can prove that Zeus or Jehovah can or can not do something right? Zeus is a Sky and storm deity, so I think you are thinking Poseidon as the sea themed deity.

You are throwing a whole bunch of UPG around as fact. So I know you can back that up with more than say scripture?



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 11:31 PM
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posted on May, 23 2018 @ 11:39 PM
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edit on 24-5-2018 by Ohthewey778 because: Never mind..



posted on May, 23 2018 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: Kolza

John 13:23
King James Bible
Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved



John 13:25
King James Bible
He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?






Revelation 14:4
King James Bible
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb



Elton john


says that Jesus is a very smart gay


www.theguardian.com...
naw

nope Rev 14:4 is the babies Raechel was weeping for that herod killed

two years worth

they are linked with Jesus as first fruits since they are returning alive to their borders.......in the millenium

144, 000 of em...virgins is a huge hint they are babes, and they are Israeli, so that is why God says to shed no tears from your eyes and no weeping for them.....
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posted on May, 24 2018 @ 01:51 AM
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a reply to: Kolza

No. He is love. Love doesn't know gender, race, swimsuitsize.... it knows age tough when it enters adulthood and gets hormonal



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 02:23 AM
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well that's exactly why spiritually is key , Unless you want more posts like this. Humans need to believe is there spirit. I get that spiritually can be dangerous. But the 2018 seems more like a start to retardation to me than a gradual reform into a less dangerous variant of the species. Inducing some less dangerous religions might beat singularity (just my opinion). But I don't vote for bringing in Flatearth or related content. So bury that in SE too. If anything we need something proven right that fits into the present day situation. Like Cyrus but with more substance. Heck yeah I would vote for new age all over again but in a more controlled fashion. You see (I hope ) the real problem is lack of spiritually. Also bringing in older cultures might help but the same problem might rise again in some distant future. If you want to go full alif. know , I support you but know this it's not the solution.


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posted on May, 24 2018 @ 02:40 AM
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originally posted by: frenchfries

well that's exactly why spiritually is key , Unless you want more posts like this. Humans need to believe is there spirit. I get that spiritually can be dangerous. But the 2018 seems more like a start to retardation to me than a gradual reform into a less dangerous variant of the species. Inducing some less dangerous religions might beat singularity (just my opinion). But I don't vote for bringing in Flatearth or related content. So bury that in SE too. If anything we need something proven right that fits into the present day situation. Like Cyrus but with more substance. Heck yeah I would vote for new age all over again but in a more controlled fashion. You see (I hope ) the real problem is lack of spiritually. Also bringing in older cultures might help but the same problem might rise again in some distant future. If you want to go full alif. know , I support you but know this it's not the solution.


Apos

Apostasy



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: Noinden
You are right Zeus is the Sky God. I totally forget Poseidon's existence. They're both associate with lightning, ( Poseidon's trident cause lightning ). It's easy to get them both confused. Damn Greek's mythos.

Anyway, no.I dont experience UPG with any of Greek Gods. My sources of Greek Gods mainly derived from mythical story books, wiki and movies. They are well known, therefore, I don't feel the need to back them up with Socrates' writings. I'm pretty sure it was Zeus who rape women and create demigods. Examples, Perseus: son of Zeus and mortal princess Danae, whom he impregnated as a golden shower. Polydeuces, son of Zeus and the mortal Leda.

This information is easily available on internet.

As for YHWH, you can hear his voice, but you can not see him . It's in the scripture. I'm lazy to repost Biblical Verses about it. It's getting tiresome already. Just Google it. Sorry. I just don't have the eagerness to repeat what I've posted in the past.



posted on May, 24 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: EasternShadow

Again no you are indeed speaking UPG for your YHWH. All faith is UPG. So its all nice. But I don't here YHWH, I hear the gods of my ancestors, An Dagda, An Morrigan, Catvrix, etc




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